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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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boyish bonkers boiling water
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
cerebral milky plaza immigrant
  12/16/25
18000
boyish bonkers boiling water
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Fantasy-prone chestnut site ratface
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
cerebral milky plaza immigrant
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Fantasy-prone chestnut site ratface
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
cerebral milky plaza immigrant
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Fantasy-prone chestnut site ratface
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
boyish bonkers boiling water
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
cerebral milky plaza immigrant
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Fantasy-prone chestnut site ratface
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
cerebral milky plaza immigrant
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Fantasy-prone chestnut site ratface
  12/17/25
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boyish bonkers boiling water
  12/17/25
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cerebral milky plaza immigrant
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Razzmatazz Internal Respiration
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
cerebral milky plaza immigrant
  12/16/25
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Razzmatazz Internal Respiration
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Supple disturbing national juggernaut
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
cerebral milky plaza immigrant
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
galvanic apoplectic stag film sweet tailpipe
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
cerebral milky plaza immigrant
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Purple cruise ship
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cerebral milky plaza immigrant
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boyish bonkers boiling water
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
dun crackhouse
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
mauve french chef
  12/17/25
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cerebral milky plaza immigrant
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dun crackhouse
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boyish bonkers boiling water
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boyish bonkers boiling water
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Fantasy-prone chestnut site ratface
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
grizzly insane fat ankles stage
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: boyish bonkers boiling water



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: cerebral milky plaza immigrant

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: boyish bonkers boiling water

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone chestnut site ratface

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: cerebral milky plaza immigrant

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone chestnut site ratface

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: cerebral milky plaza immigrant

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone chestnut site ratface

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: boyish bonkers boiling water

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: cerebral milky plaza immigrant

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone chestnut site ratface

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: cerebral milky plaza immigrant

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone chestnut site ratface

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: boyish bonkers boiling water



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: cerebral milky plaza immigrant



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Internal Respiration

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: cerebral milky plaza immigrant

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Internal Respiration



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Supple disturbing national juggernaut

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: cerebral milky plaza immigrant

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: galvanic apoplectic stag film sweet tailpipe

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: cerebral milky plaza immigrant

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Purple cruise ship

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: cerebral milky plaza immigrant



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: boyish bonkers boiling water



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: dun crackhouse

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: mauve french chef

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: cerebral milky plaza immigrant



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: dun crackhouse



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: boyish bonkers boiling water



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: boyish bonkers boiling water



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone chestnut site ratface

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: grizzly insane fat ankles stage

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515738)