Why do in house lawyers have such giant chips on their shoulders
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Date: July 29th, 2025 12:24 PM Author: birdshit monolith
There's a wierd dynamic with in-housemos and law firmmos.
Lawfirmmos are used to being bossed around and treated like trash by their clients. And they normally happily bend over and take it.
But when the "client" bossing them around is another lawyer, often one who makes much less money and/or is less prestigious, it bothers the law firmmo to have to bend over and get fucked in the ass with a smile.
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Date: July 29th, 2025 12:27 PM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:02 PM Author: .,..,.,.,.,.,.,,....,,.,
The answer is because in-house lawyers (outside of GCs) are failures. Let's just cut to the chase.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49140317) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:09 PM Author: .,..,.,.,.,.,.,,....,,.,
Bro, you were never like us. That's the difference. It just took a few years to sort it out. Now please continue to project your angst through more adderall screeds.
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: t3h P0aStEr oF d00m!!!!!!!! (gunneratttt)
in response to:
"Bro, you were never like us. That's the difference. It just took a few years to sort it out. Now please continue to project your angst through more adderall screeds."
guess i was way out of line to give a flippant and dismissive response rather than engage in good faith.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49140426) |
Date: July 29th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
What a bizarre description. What "chip" could we possibly have? In-house people are overwhelmingly happy we no longer bill hours but we have to keep law firm lawyers from running up the bill by putting 4+ people on calls or letting people pad hours. Otherwise, we pay you money to do specific work. You never actually talk to our clients except in a few limited litigation scenarios, so it isn't like we're worried that you'll somehow upstage us. Our jobs have remarkably little in common.
Every once in a while you'll see an in-house lawyer go to a firm but it is a once in a blue moon event. 99% of in-house lawyers are thrilled that they're in-house and not biglaw.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49140599) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:07 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Again, describe the nature of the chip. I get over $450k/year in comp, have over 6 weeks of vacation, and WFH. My wife is over $350k, also in-house. So it isn't money either.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49140706) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:16 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
What do you imagine I'm unhappy about?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49140733) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:18 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Yes, exactly, now you get it. If I get panned for anything on XO it is being too smug and happy with my choices, believing that they are always the best choices possible.
But I'm giving you the opportunity to sell me on what I should feel bad about.
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:37 PM Author: t3h P0aStEr oF d00m!!!!!!!! (gunneratttt)
"why do inhousemos have such a chip on their shoulder?"
"im happy and all my colleagues are."
"cope more burnout"
you've made up your mind inhousemos are seething because your ego is tied to your job, and people who could have it but don't want it devalues it and makes you emptional. so you dismiss people claiming they're happy (u mad!) and nonpersonal arguments (tldr!).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49140794) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:48 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Our work is different. We're better at the work we do, which is to be expected. I provided concrete evidence that we're happy with our choices (if we weren't, law firms would be flooded with resumes from in-house lawyers, which they're not). In general, people that choose to have actual work-life balance and spend time with their family and friends and have irl hobbies are objectively "better people" than people who live to bill so they can maximize their shekels. That said, we're all lawyers and therefore we're all objectively shitty people.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49140831)
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Date: July 29th, 2025 5:06 PM Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)
it’s 100% him
him and his ugly ass wife have $800k HHI and live in a swamp, while they refuse to raise their own kid and he orders goislop delivery food 5-6 days a week cuz she’s too busy to cook too
to them this sad middle class lifestyle is big success
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Date: July 29th, 2025 6:01 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Oh no, our food is so goyische! Wtf is this dumbfuckery? Watching you impotently rage at us is hilarious. It is the weirdest topics too. "Omg, Slavs are such shit!" Says the guy with a Slavic wife and half Slavic kids.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49141172) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:45 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
If you declare that "X person has a chip on their shoulder" the burden is on them to demonstrate the nature of that chip. So far, this thread really makes it seem like people in law firms have a massive chip.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49140823) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:52 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
OP: "OMG, in-house lawyers have a HUGE CHIP on their shoulders!"
In-house lawyers: "We're actually happy and see a ton of law firm lawyers trying to get jobs doing what we do and generally have no desire to return to firms."
Firm lawyers: "OMG QED QED QED!!!!!1"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49140853) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 5:58 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
In-house threading is as reliable of a TMF bait topic as BMW performance SUVs these days.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49141169) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:08 PM Author: t3h P0aStEr oF d00m!!!!!!!! (gunneratttt)
first you criticize me for writing too much and now you're criticizing me for leaving something out trying to get my point across in fewer words.
you've given up even trying to engage in good faith. and lol at launching adhoms about retarded scuffling on xo and what that says about in-house work generally.
ultimately this thread is about attitudes inhouse and if you're primed to reject multiple poasters saying "im happy and my colleagues are" what else can i say? i can't put you inside my head to prove its how i feel so we're at an impasse.
it's 4pm and i just got home. scuffling on xo was 90% of my workday.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49140905) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:14 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:30 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Whenever we have an opening we get flooded with law firm people. We generally prefer people from in-house (for a bunch of reason). People in-house almost never leave for firms (as you noted). That speaks for itself.
I think it is the biglaw culture. Everything at firms is some dick measuring contest. "I billed X hours! I'm a ROCKSTAR!" People who act like that in-house get told to curb their enthusiasm and if they don't they get sent packing. Ultimately, biglaw people are just miserable people trying to act cheerful. Ergo, thread like this. And to my earlier point about preferring people already in-house? Yes, this cultural disparity is one reason for that.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49140780) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:54 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:57 PM Author: Terry Bollea Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)
Lmao, you two ghouls give away your lives and time with your kid that it will never get back, and this is all you get?
“more porridge, sir?”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49141025)
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Date: July 29th, 2025 5:57 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
The hilarious thing is that we're as Russian as his wife is.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49141165) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
So the source of your anger is that my wife earns too much money being a senior in-house lawyer and should be as useless and unproductive as your former prostitute wife?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49141160) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 12:44 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Somehow, in a thread of in-house lawyers vs law firm lawyers the real battle is me vs unemployed people.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49142853) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 9:32 PM Author: ebere wafula
LMFAO NO YOU DO NOT MAKE 450k
YOU ARE FUCKING ASSOCIATE GENERAL COUNSEL
JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP TMF AND ASK ME HOW I KNOW YOU DONT MAKE 450k
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49141724)
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Date: July 29th, 2025 10:11 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Ok, how do you know?
Edit: do you even know how comp for director levels at my company works?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49141791) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
AGC here is equivalent to Senior Director. So yes, I absolutely am. More importantly, everyone in this band gets LTI (in other words, RSUs). I am also not in "privacy compliance."
As for my wife, that's not even a high salary for her position.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49142575) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 10:51 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
You absolutely have not if you think that. Even our counsels (a band below me) make more than that. My STI + LTI is more than that.
Mandy is a direct report to the CLO. The company is smaller but not sure why you think that salary is remarkable.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49142591) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 10:52 AM Author: ebere wafula
No, you don't, liar. I know for a fact.
Lol at a "direct report" to the CLO of her shitbank with 100 employees.
Remarkable? When did I ever say it is remarkable? You and Mandy have been in law for 20 years and you have never once scratched at what I made as a midlevel associate years ago.
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Date: July 30th, 2025 10:55 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
No, you obviously don't. You didn't even know that AGC is Director level here.
Yeah, it has 100 employees. Totally.
Is this based on the alternative universe where we make $115k or something?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49142602)
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Date: July 30th, 2025 11:03 AM Author: ebere wafula
this whole thread is amazing in proving exactly OPs point.
You could not last more than 11 months in biglaw. Your only dream in this world was to work biglaw. You fantasized about it. We all remember. And you got canned after 11 fucking months, never to return. Back to biglaw? No. Back to school, literally more school, only to get "JD advantage" roles.
So you have concocted this laughable story about how all along what you really wanted to do was to work in midlevel legal compliance at a F1000 company. Screens, teams meetings, 'deliverables' all day.
Congrats on making less at the age of 45 than I made as a midlevel associate. too bad you couldn't have gotten it up front and invested in the S&P 500 years ago like I did. You wouldn't have to worry about paid vacation like you do now.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49142620) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
You seem MAF for some reason and I have no idea who you are or why you're MAF. Best of luck with all that.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49142653) |
Date: July 29th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: grievance officer
The in house lawyers may or may not have noticed that the OP didn't mention Biglaw.
Suppose someone posted "Why do PE principals have such giant chips on their shoulders", and that's all. If a bunch PE guys ran in to talk about how being a PE guy is actually better than being a Biglaw lawyer, that would be really weird, right? And the reason it would be weird isn't because they'd be wrong -- being a big shot PE dude is actually better! But it would still be really weird.
Think about that, in house bros.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49140881) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
What a stupid point. Most in-house lawyers came from biglaw and the realistic choice was to continue pushing at law firms (or go back to firms) or stay in-house. Very few in-house lawyers can become PE principals for a whole bunch of reasons. Just like for many PE principals the comparisons would be VCs or i-banking.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49140888) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:20 PM Author: t3h P0aStEr oF d00m!!!!!!!! (gunneratttt)
1) this thread parallel thread to this one about in-house v. biglol
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755930&mc=44&forum_id=2
2) we're on fucking xoxo. this is in line with your point too, but a thread about in house lawyers on a fucking lawyer forum implicitly is about others LAWYER options. he might as well said "hmmm but what about compared to professional poker players, no one said biglaw!"
this is exactly the type of biglol "GOTCHAS!" invested in being right. i can envision op loling about how a lazy in-housemo improperly italicized a comma in a routine discovery motion and patting himself on the back for his attention to detail.
"heh, this is why the bring in the big guns", senior assoc at 1:12am
"great work on this but this matter settled yesterday at cob", -sent from iPhone at 11:12am.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49140939) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 6:04 PM Author: grievance officer
"Why'd you do it?"
"I didn't kill nobody!"
"Didn't say nothing about killing..."
"OK, now you're nitpicking."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49141180) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 6:17 PM Author: t3h P0aStEr oF d00m!!!!!!!! (gunneratttt)
except for all the context already referenced.
[Marshall Gerard corners fugitive Doctor Kimble]
Kimble: "I didn't kill my wife!"
Gerard: "Who said anything anout killing your wife?"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2/en-en/#49141207) |
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