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Ozempic = devastating for claim that obesity crisis is not from overeating

All these “theories” about why obesity has been ...
Buck-toothed milk
  07/05/25
nobody took these "theories" seriously, anyone who...
Supple citrine spot
  07/05/25
There was a big thread maybe two years ago on CICO, I think ...
Buck-toothed milk
  07/05/25
did any of them actually lose weight doing anything other th...
Supple citrine spot
  07/05/25
those poasters were all fat or jewish and poisoning the well...
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  07/05/25
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Soul-stirring Parlour
  07/06/25
It was bizarre. Their main point was that someone might han...
Honey-headed alcoholic hall
  07/05/25
Even if you believe in CICO (you shouldn't), it is still unf...
khaki deep volcanic crater office
  07/05/25
Some people don't have the ability to create the systems and...
Copper gay wizard gas station
  07/06/25
i get it, and i'm not disagreeing, but i do want to understa...
lascivious corn cake
  07/05/25
So if CICO is all that matters why not just eat only junk fo...
elite trailer park juggernaut
  07/05/25
How much McDonalds does it take to hit 2k calories? (Less fo...
Frum cracking state
  07/05/25
You absolutely could. There are other things you might value...
Copper gay wizard gas station
  07/06/25
CICO is not real in the sense that human beings do not use h...
Twinkling titillating center keepsake machete
  07/05/25
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khaki deep volcanic crater office
  07/05/25
"CI" really refers human-metabolized calories, not...
Copper gay wizard gas station
  07/06/25
* carbohydrate insulin model
Twinkling titillating center keepsake machete
  07/05/25
Insulin is an exceedingly potent compound. Food, and espe...
Frum cracking state
  07/05/25
180 and cr
Twinkling titillating center keepsake machete
  07/05/25
CO factor.
Copper gay wizard gas station
  07/06/25
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Swashbuckling kitty cat
  07/06/25
would not be surprised if long-term use ends up being linked...
Slippery talented church
  07/05/25
in a way i think the drug confirms some of the conspiracy th...
lascivious corn cake
  07/05/25
i doubt it reaches the level of a conspiracy. it's just food...
Slippery talented church
  07/05/25
agreed. but i could see, for example, big ag and consultants...
lascivious corn cake
  07/05/25
This is about as revealing as saying that the 1970s energy c...
Glassy Hairraiser Theatre
  07/05/25
Calorie per dollar declined. More cars per capita. Calorie i...
azure impressive hospital foreskin
  07/05/25
> Calorie per dollar declined Obesity is more common i...
Glassy Hairraiser Theatre
  07/05/25
I don’t think higher obesity among the poor discredits...
azure impressive hospital foreskin
  07/05/25
Calories per dollar declined? Or do you mean the exact oppos...
disgusting trust fund
  07/05/25
yea I don't disagree that "people lose weight when they...
Buck-toothed milk
  07/05/25
A 100-IQ CICO redditor arguing with an 80-IQ "slow meta...
Glassy Hairraiser Theatre
  07/05/25
is this donny? ozempic proves CICO. sorry your other theorie...
Buck-toothed milk
  07/05/25
CICO is true, whether or not ozempic works, and is hardly pr...
Glassy Hairraiser Theatre
  07/05/25
No kidding, all of those things just result in people eating...
Buck-toothed milk
  07/05/25
You really have a lot of trouble with proximate and ultimate...
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  07/05/25
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Hilarious ivory telephone theater stage
  07/05/25
You really have trouble with rebutting an OP, dont you?
Buck-toothed milk
  07/05/25
That dude already laid it out for you. If you can’t un...
Hilarious ivory telephone theater stage
  07/05/25
"No one on this board claimed CICO was false" *...
Buck-toothed milk
  07/05/25
"you don't want to be a part of such a midwit debate&qu...
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  07/05/25
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Hilarious ivory telephone theater stage
  07/05/25
I don't understand what people taking a drug proves about CI...
khaki deep volcanic crater office
  07/05/25
Ozempic actually just shows that regulating food intake has ...
Hilarious ivory telephone theater stage
  07/05/25
This. You can’t really blame fat people for being fat....
smoky spectacular dragon hissy fit
  07/05/25
If only you loved your children enough to take the magical d...
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  07/05/25
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Supple citrine spot
  07/05/25
I'm not going to take that poison. I'd rather just quit eati...
smoky spectacular dragon hissy fit
  07/05/25
You have the biggest ego of any single poster on this board ...
Embarrassed to the bone cruise ship
  07/05/25
id rather do something ive demonstrated i have no ability to...
Bearded water buffalo
  07/05/25
Do you believe we can't blame an addict for being an addict?...
Frum cracking state
  07/05/25
I’m turning it all around starting today, brother. Die...
smoky spectacular dragon hissy fit
  07/05/25
lol
dark bipolar rehab cuck
  07/05/25
Diets don't work. You can only achieve your goals with a ...
Frum cracking state
  07/05/25
how is that inconsistent with CICO being correct
Buck-toothed milk
  07/05/25
No one has ever argued that food consumption doesn’t c...
Hilarious ivory telephone theater stage
  07/05/25
Yes people on this very board were arguing that calories in ...
Buck-toothed milk
  07/05/25
Lol here you go - is this your thread?: https://autoadmit.co...
Buck-toothed milk
  07/05/25
Heres another one dumbass: https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?...
Buck-toothed milk
  07/05/25
I remember when lots of people maintained that smoking cigar...
Frum cracking state
  07/05/25
yea the idiots itt would tell you that its not smoking that ...
Buck-toothed milk
  07/05/25
How fucking old are you?
Trip Selfie Messiness
  07/05/25
Xennial. Smoking was really big in the '90s, and there wa...
Frum cracking state
  07/05/25
its harder to go after obesity because it requires temperanc...
Bearded water buffalo
  07/05/25
Yeah, that's something that took me a while to realize. I...
Frum cracking state
  07/05/25
having an obese child should carry the same social stigma as...
Bearded water buffalo
  07/05/25
TITCR
Frum cracking state
  07/05/25
I sort of see the OP's point, but I think the argument was a...
Plum newt whorehouse
  07/05/25
"People don't really eat that stuff anymore" Pe...
Frum cracking state
  07/05/25
sedantary people can completely isolate themselves in ways t...
Bearded water buffalo
  07/05/25
And when one portion of food from 'eating out' fulfills the ...
Frum cracking state
  07/05/25
just look at your grocery receipt. produce and fresh foods a...
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  07/05/25
my only point from the beginning to the end of this thread i...
Buck-toothed milk
  07/05/25
Midwit take, who tf is arguing that hard against CICO? If...
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  07/05/25
"Midwit take, who tf is arguing that hard against CICO?...
Copper gay wizard gas station
  07/06/25
zero people are disagreeing with CICO completely. they're po...
Bearded water buffalo
  07/05/25
CICO is idiotic. The body is not a closed energy system and ...
Plum newt whorehouse
  07/05/25
it's not idiotic, it's just reductionist. it's both true tha...
Bearded water buffalo
  07/05/25
“ and also that there is nuance regarding type of calo...
azure impressive hospital foreskin
  07/05/25
we're engaging in scholarship here, not brainstorming on mar...
Bearded water buffalo
  07/05/25
CR the med diet always makes me lol at anti-carbmos
Buck-toothed milk
  07/06/25
yeah i agree with this take CICO is a signpost or a start t...
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  07/05/25
cr. the nuance of how different calories are processed by di...
Bearded water buffalo
  07/05/25
TBF, a cake or pizza will give you some mind-blowing pumps. ...
Frum cracking state
  07/05/25
dieters definitely do cheat days. but it's not for pump but ...
Bearded water buffalo
  07/05/25
I've never been a fan of IIFYM. Quality matters, but won't m...
Frum cracking state
  07/05/25
it applies to everyone because we all have human bodies and ...
Bearded water buffalo
  07/05/25
one cr trick for staying slim popcorn. air pop some popcorn...
Startled nudist chapel
  07/06/25
Here you go dumbass: https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread...
Buck-toothed milk
  07/06/25
that's a bait thread that a lot of autists took
Bearded water buffalo
  07/06/25
much worse for the body positivity movement, even Lizzo is g...
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Self-centered Glittery Garrison
  07/06/25
As someone on one of these (not Ozempic, but Zepbound), let ...
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  07/06/25
I lost a huge amount of weight (more than 250 lbs.) and have...
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  07/06/25
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Buck-toothed milk
  07/06/25
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  07/07/25
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Date: July 5th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: Buck-toothed milk

All these “theories” about why obesity has been increasing that point to reasons other than fats overeating and not exercising have been EXPOSED as total lies.

All Ozempic does is make you eat less, and viola, fats lose weight when that happens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073715)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: Supple citrine spot

nobody took these "theories" seriously, anyone who lost weight in the history of ever has been preaching CICO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073717)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:05 AM
Author: Buck-toothed milk

There was a big thread maybe two years ago on CICO, I think I started it, where tons of posters were claiming CICO was not real. “Gut bacteria” and other nonsense about why CICO didn’t matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073720)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: Supple citrine spot

did any of them actually lose weight doing anything other than CICO? Those poasters are not serious people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073829)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:29 AM
Author: Comical maroon shrine immigrant

those poasters were all fat or jewish and poisoning the well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073839)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:11 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075464)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: Honey-headed alcoholic hall

It was bizarre. Their main point was that someone might handle 2250 differently than 2200. It had nothing to do with 2200 v 3200.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073854)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: khaki deep volcanic crater office

Even if you believe in CICO (you shouldn't), it is still unfeasible for people to try to lose weight with that method. You are basically arguing in favor of restriction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074583)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Copper gay wizard gas station

Some people don't have the ability to create the systems and exercise the discipline necessary for some things. The necessary things are still necessary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075894)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: lascivious corn cake

i get it, and i'm not disagreeing, but i do want to understand this better.

suppose someone argues that CICO is too simple because some calories provoke your body's fullness sensors and some (perhaps processed foods) bypass the sensors.

if that's true, it's consistent with the success of these new drugs, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073972)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: elite trailer park juggernaut

So if CICO is all that matters why not just eat only junk food all sugar for calories?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073982)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:41 PM
Author: Frum cracking state

How much McDonalds does it take to hit 2k calories? (Less for non-active individuals.)

Just because we've engineered foods to be calorie-dense and non-filling doesn't negate CICO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073988)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Copper gay wizard gas station

You absolutely could. There are other things you might value, but you could lose weight on that diet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075895)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Twinkling titillating center keepsake machete

CICO is not real in the sense that human beings do not use heat energy nor can one consume photons. mass in mass out works. eating less chemical energy works. Calories are not an appropriate measure of the energy available to human beings. If it was, coal and lumber would be very fattening.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074215)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: khaki deep volcanic crater office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074592)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: Copper gay wizard gas station

"CI" really refers human-metabolized calories, not gross. All you're doing is refining CI.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075897)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Twinkling titillating center keepsake machete

* carbohydrate insulin model

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074211)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: Frum cracking state

Insulin is an exceedingly potent compound.

Food, and especially sugars, should be viewed as drugs for this reason alone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074243)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Twinkling titillating center keepsake machete

180 and cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074246)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: Copper gay wizard gas station

CO factor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075898)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: Swashbuckling kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075473)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Slippery talented church

would not be surprised if long-term use ends up being linked to some cancers, particularly of the pancreas, which are almost always terminal. there are safer ways to suppress your appetite.

although to be fair, "eat less and exercise more" was easier when addictive, calorie-dense foods weren't as common as they are now. don't blame the fats entirely, but give them the majority of the blame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073721)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: lascivious corn cake

in a way i think the drug confirms some of the conspiracy theories about big ag and US obesity since the 1970s. the drug utterly proves that to some degree it's the body's unconscious assessment of fullness that regulates a lot of weight gain and loss, and it makes sense that big ag would try to produce food that never triggers a fullness response.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073728)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:21 AM
Author: Slippery talented church

i doubt it reaches the level of a conspiracy. it's just food companies maximizing profit by making you eat more without regard for your health/weight (after all, they're not responsible for that).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073736)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:39 AM
Author: lascivious corn cake

agreed. but i could see, for example, big ag and consultants explicitly, deliberately and discretely working on food production that bypasses your body's fullness sensors. conspiracy in that sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073766)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:35 AM
Author: Glassy Hairraiser Theatre

This is about as revealing as saying that the 1970s energy crisis was due to overuse of gas. You should distinguish between proximate and ultimate causes. Why are people overeating today, when they did not always do this in other calorie-rich environments?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073759)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:40 AM
Author: azure impressive hospital foreskin

Calorie per dollar declined. More cars per capita. Calorie in calorie out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073769)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:51 AM
Author: Glassy Hairraiser Theatre

> Calorie per dollar declined

Obesity is more common in poor people

> More cars per capita

Maybe. OP said it was all over-eating

> Calorie in calorie out

The conservation of energy is bedrock. And it is about as explanative for the obesity epidemic as it is for the 1970s energy crisis. You need to learn to distinguish proximate and ultimate causes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073794)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: azure impressive hospital foreskin

I don’t think higher obesity among the poor discredits the cheaper calorie theory. I do agree there are deeper causes but I disagree that any of the explanations debunk CICO or what we know about nutrition and biology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073969)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:04 PM
Author: disgusting trust fund

Calories per dollar declined? Or do you mean the exact opposite?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074519)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: Buck-toothed milk

yea I don't disagree that "people lose weight when they eat fewer calories" is not particularly revealing. but then are people who deny this, and Ozempic has exposed them as frauds. that food is more addictive today is not inconsistent with CICO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073785)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: Glassy Hairraiser Theatre

A 100-IQ CICO redditor arguing with an 80-IQ "slow metabolism" tweeter is not a debate that you want to be on *either* side of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073799)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: Buck-toothed milk

is this donny? ozempic proves CICO. sorry your other theories about why people are fat have been totally debunked with Ozempic, which only causes people to eat less. that foods have more calories now is besides the point entirely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073815)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: Glassy Hairraiser Theatre

CICO is true, whether or not ozempic works, and is hardly proved by it.

The obesity epidemic, which is new, is not explained by CICO, which has always been true.

In fact, obesity is caused by the historically novel easy availability of nutrition-dense (ie., calorie-dense), easily digestible, and highly-palatable (ie., addictive) foods. Take away any of those three things, and obesity is not as bad. Take them away during childhood, and obesity is not as bad. In the presence of all three, genetic resistance to massive weight gain has historically been the best prophylactic, with "discipline" being rarely effective for more than a 1-2 year time frame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073876)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: Buck-toothed milk

No kidding, all of those things just result in people eating more calories.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073889)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:08 PM
Author: Glassy Hairraiser Theatre

You really have a lot of trouble with proximate and ultimate cause, don't you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073907)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:13 PM
Author: Hilarious ivory telephone theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073922)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:14 PM
Author: Buck-toothed milk

You really have trouble with rebutting an OP, dont you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073925)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:21 PM
Author: Hilarious ivory telephone theater stage

That dude already laid it out for you. If you can’t understand that’s on you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073950)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: Buck-toothed milk

"No one on this board claimed CICO was false"

*links you to multiple threads*

The point of this thread is extremely simple: CICO is not flame, its vey real, and ozempic makes that clear. not really interested in your or donnys jewish sophistry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073956)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: Bearded water buffalo

"you don't want to be a part of such a midwit debate"

*joins debate*

what you're saying isn't particularly hard to understand. if someone is too obtuse to understand that's on them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073975)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: Hilarious ivory telephone theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073890)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:47 PM
Author: khaki deep volcanic crater office

I don't understand what people taking a drug proves about CICO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074621)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:58 AM
Author: Hilarious ivory telephone theater stage

Ozempic actually just shows that regulating food intake has almost nothing to do with discipline. It’s just that some bodies say they are full earlier than others.

Not a fat but that’s the obvious takeaway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073803)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:06 AM
Author: smoky spectacular dragon hissy fit

This. You can’t really blame fat people for being fat. Some fats just react to stress by overeating and are literally always hungry. Trust me, I know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073808)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone cruise ship

If only you loved your children enough to take the magical drug which makes you not want to eat much!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073810)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: Supple citrine spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073830)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:26 AM
Author: smoky spectacular dragon hissy fit

I'm not going to take that poison. I'd rather just quit eating and climb Teewinot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073836)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone cruise ship

You have the biggest ego of any single poster on this board and are willing to kill yourself over it instead of living to see your children graduate. Fucking piece of shit scumbag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073837)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:36 PM
Author: Bearded water buffalo

id rather do something ive demonstrated i have no ability to do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073979)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:39 PM
Author: Frum cracking state

Do you believe we can't blame an addict for being an addict?

Many people react to stress by consuming dangerous substances and are literally always craving a substance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073986)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:40 PM
Author: smoky spectacular dragon hissy fit

I’m turning it all around starting today, brother. Diet starts right now. This instant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073987)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: dark bipolar rehab cuck

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074494)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 4:45 PM
Author: Frum cracking state

Diets don't work.

You can only achieve your goals with a true change in how you live your life, from this day to the end.

All the strength you need is inside you, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074500)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: Buck-toothed milk

how is that inconsistent with CICO being correct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073811)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: Hilarious ivory telephone theater stage

No one has ever argued that food consumption doesn’t correlate with weight. If you don’t eat you lose weight.

Ozempic shows these people aren’t necessary overeating…they are eating until they are full just like everyone else.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073887)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: Buck-toothed milk

Yes people on this very board were arguing that calories in is not the key variable, dumbass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073891)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:18 PM
Author: Buck-toothed milk

Lol here you go - is this your thread?: https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&mc=131&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073936)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:18 PM
Author: Buck-toothed milk

Heres another one dumbass: https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5287916&mc=119&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073938)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:09 PM
Author: Frum cracking state

I remember when lots of people maintained that smoking cigarets didn't cause cancer; it was because [insert other reason].

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073911)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:16 PM
Author: Buck-toothed milk

yea the idiots itt would tell you that its not smoking that causes cancer. its the fancy packaging,. social pressure, and addictive nicotine that causes you to smoke, and think they made a point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073931)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:17 PM
Author: Trip Selfie Messiness

How fucking old are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073933)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:21 PM
Author: Frum cracking state

Xennial.

Smoking was really big in the '90s, and there was a huge (& successful) anti-smoking push in the '00s.

I really thought they'd go after obesity in the same manner, but, unfortunately, no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073949)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:39 PM
Author: Bearded water buffalo

its harder to go after obesity because it requires temperance in consuming something necessary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073984)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:42 PM
Author: Frum cracking state

Yeah, that's something that took me a while to realize.

I've been in the weightlifting scene since my teens, so the idea of not treating food like a drug is still foreign to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073990)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Bearded water buffalo

having an obese child should carry the same social stigma as allowing your child to smoke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073994)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Frum cracking state

TITCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49073995)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Plum newt whorehouse

I sort of see the OP's point, but I think the argument was always that our modern society and frankenstein food and microplastics is throwing off our natural digestive process.

I'm not sure how this is "disproved" by the fact that you can your body more in line with its natural chemical state by injecting Gila Monster venom into your stomach.

Moreover, it looks like one big way it works is it physically keeps food in your stomach for longer - which again, suggests (i) hunger is not simply a mental test but has a physical component as well and (ii) the physical component is influenced heavily by hormones.

So I'd challenge the OP, if Gila Monster venom can keep food in your stomach for longer, isn't it possible that food dyes/microplastics/chemical sweeteners/background radiation could have the reverse effect?

My point has always been people started getting super fat in the late 90s early 2000s with super sized McDonald's meals. People don't really eat that stuff anymore, plus more people are exercising than ever, yet (until Ozempic) people are still getting fatter....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074198)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Frum cracking state

"People don't really eat that stuff anymore"

People are eating out more than ever, and it's all similarly bad food. Even in grocery stores, real food is a very small part of what they sell.

"more people are exercising than ever"

I think people talk about exercising more than ever, and buy more exercising products/services. ("Look how many steps this screen said I took yesterday!")

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074210)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Bearded water buffalo

sedantary people can completely isolate themselves in ways the couldn't before. wfh job, doordash, and mcu is streaming almost immediately.

if you just walked around your local mainstreet you see fewer fat people than years ago. but obesity is still on the rise. bleak.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074220)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Frum cracking state

And when one portion of food from 'eating out' fulfills the 1.5k calories needed by a sedentary individual, this is what we see.

I'm adamantly against the concept of walking as exercise, but only because it should be part of everyday life, regardless of one's occupation. How can people live lives where walking is considered exercise?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074231)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Indecent amber theater

just look at your grocery receipt. produce and fresh foods are not taxed and in a separate section. what percentage of your grocery bill is taxed frankenstein food?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074502)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: Buck-toothed milk

my only point from the beginning to the end of this thread is that CICO deniers including some on this board are dumb and I've linked several of those threads above.

but its impossible to deny CICO now, because *even if* all these other explanations have any merit, CICO is still king, none of them supersede CICO, and sticking solely with CICO is all that is necessary.

the solution to losing weight, as has now been conclusively proven with ozempic, is just eat less, as ozempic forces you to do. all these other factors dont matter if you just eat less, thats the point. CICO is still king.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074272)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:26 PM
Author: Wonderful Insane Crotch

Midwit take, who tf is arguing that hard against CICO?

If anything ozempic shows humans don’t have free will and thus you can’t attach any moral failure for obesity. What you really want to do is judge obese people for their “choices” , just like generations before you judged addicts, those with mental illness, epileptics, etc.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074556)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: Copper gay wizard gas station

"Midwit take, who tf is arguing that hard against CICO?"

Candy Ride

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075900)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Bearded water buffalo

zero people are disagreeing with CICO completely. they're pointing out nuance that makes CICO so reductionist that it's midwit and useless.

it's like you're arguing medicine is stupid because we're mortal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074561)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 7:53 PM
Author: Plum newt whorehouse

CICO is idiotic. The body is not a closed energy system and different types of calories are obviously processed very differently. Eating 2,400 calories in steak in one sitting is different than eating 2,400 calories in cake in one sitting which is different than eating 100 calories of soda every hour.

I think xoxo has always been on board with the "eat less, move more" movement in terms of losing weight for an individual.

But I'm sympathetic to the idea that Americans didn't go from being 10% obese to 50% obese simply because people started moving less and eating more - it seems like in the 90s almost everyone was naturally normal looking even if they did eat McDonalds 5 timse a week and never worked out. People then ate tons of sugary cereals and chips and cookies too. Now conversely there's lots of people who eat salads every day and who go to some type of gym a few times a week and are still 30 pounds overweight.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074927)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 7:57 PM
Author: Bearded water buffalo

it's not idiotic, it's just reductionist. it's both true that you *will* lose weight if you operate at a caloric deficit, and also that there is nuance regarding type of calories consumed, how they're processed, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074940)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:06 PM
Author: azure impressive hospital foreskin

“ and also that there is nuance regarding type of calories consumed, how they're processed, etc”

The nuance is at best an interesting topic for academics. There’s been far too much emphasis on the types of calories we take in and not anywhere near enough on the simple caloric intake. Check out the recent article on Italian diets. an American dietician would scream at the amount of carbs they consume, and yet, they live long lives and weigh much less. They simply consume less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074953)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:17 PM
Author: Bearded water buffalo

we're engaging in scholarship here, not brainstorming on marketing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074975)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:08 AM
Author: Buck-toothed milk

CR the med diet always makes me lol at anti-carbmos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075455)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Startled nudist chapel

yeah i agree with this take

CICO is a signpost or a start to the weight loss conversation but there are plenty of other factors involved beyond it

if you have only one weight loss axiom to go off of though its one of the better ones

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074943)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:21 PM
Author: Bearded water buffalo

cr. the nuance of how different calories are processed by different people, psychology of physiology of why and how a person feels hungry, conditioning to becoming accustomed to and satisfied by the most palatable foods, how difficult is it to break that, etc. etc. for fats all of this nuance is fertile ground for excuse making.

"count calories and exercise" works 100% of the time because of thermodynamics. it doesn't matter whether those calories come from cake or kale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49074982)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:29 PM
Author: Frum cracking state

TBF, a cake or pizza will give you some mind-blowing pumps.

Do normal people even do cheat days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075001)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:34 PM
Author: Bearded water buffalo

dieters definitely do cheat days. but it's not for pump but because few former fatties can accept the iron chains of permanent NOICECREAM.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075005)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:42 PM
Author: Frum cracking state

I've never been a fan of IIFYM. Quality matters, but won't make any difference to people who aren't in competitive condition.

Likewise, I think a lot of the 'nuances' mentioned ITT apply to athletes, but not to average middle-age people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075012)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Bearded water buffalo

it applies to everyone because we all have human bodies and consume food and most want to be healthy. and it matters for the sake of it for anyone interested in truth, i.e. autists and nerds.

so yeah for non-athletic normies "count calories, *eat a high quality and balanced diet, and exercise" is cr and most attempts to learn the science behind food just confuse the issue if youre trying to get normies to be healthy.

*eating mcdonalds at a caloric deficit will cause weight loss but is still super unhealthy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075028)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:34 AM
Author: Startled nudist chapel

one cr trick for staying slim

popcorn. air pop some popcorn, very filling, great fiber content, ok protein, very healthy if you don't slather butter or oil on. i like salt, pepper, and sumac on mine. can gorge yourself on it and still be calorie negative despite all the energy it gives you as a fairly low glycemic index grain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075666)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:16 AM
Author: Buck-toothed milk

Here you go dumbass: https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&mc=131&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075469)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:44 AM
Author: Bearded water buffalo

that's a bait thread that a lot of autists took

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075670)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:22 AM
Author: multi-colored location athletic conference

much worse for the body positivity movement, even Lizzo is getting thinner and that balloon was a major focal point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075475)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:11 AM
Author: Self-centered Glittery Garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075782)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 9:22 AM
Author: Awkward striped hyena

As someone on one of these (not Ozempic, but Zepbound), let me provide some perspective

1) I am down about 45 lbs since March

2) Obesity is caused by calorie in / calorie out - eating less is the key. Quality of foods is secondary in terms of weight (obviously matters in terms of health, body composition, etc)

3) Ozempic makes you think about food less, and eat less when you do. When I was at my biggest, I would have a nice dinner, go out for drinks with friends, and have shitty food (second dinner) after drinking. I wouldn’t feel “full” after doing this. Now, not only can I physically not do that (because I feel too full), I don’t want to. People who are obese think about food more, usually don’t feel full, and often have emotional feedback loops that lead to overeating. Ozempic stops all of that.

4) Sedentary lifestyle plays a role - but the biggest misconception to me is that Ozempic is something you do instead of working out. If you are fat, and lose a bunch of weight, you actually want to start working out to gain muscle, look better, etc. You are more likely to feel comfortable in a gym instead of self conscious. You respond well to progress. And this is critical, you don’t get hungrier after doing cardio, because you aren’t hungry at all. More widespread adoption of Ozempic will lead to more working out overall, not less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075852)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: Copper gay wizard gas station

I lost a huge amount of weight (more than 250 lbs.) and have kept it off for years. I didn't use surgery or drugs, but the rest of that nevertheless rings true to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49075905)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:54 PM
Author: Buck-toothed milk

Did you ever consider doing nicotine to lose weight. It has similar suppression of appetite effects though I am sure not as strong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49077489)



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Date: July 7th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Awkward striped hyena

I occasionally use Zyn pouches these days, but not as an appetite suppressant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49078541)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 9:01 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Fluffy Hairy Legs Range

How much do you weigh now?

Did you lose 45 pounds simply from not eating as much? Or did you exercise, walk, lift, etc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49077502)



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Date: July 7th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Awkward striped hyena

Around 225 now, hope to see a 1 on the scale by September.

Eating less, plus a lot of exercise - cardio and lifting. I am in Equinox around 5 times a week - two or three cardio days, two or three weight days depending on the week. I try to walk a lot as well. Cardio usually consists of spin or running classes. Sometimes I do a stair master session. Lifting has been with a trainer recently, who closes most sessions with conditioning (assault bike, ski erg, regular erg, elliptical).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49078537)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 9:59 PM
Author: doobsian laughsome step-uncle's house new version

unknown pumo, good post

looks legit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2/en-en/#49077600)