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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Cracking red lodge
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
outnumbered telephone circlehead
  12/16/25
18000
Cracking red lodge
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Lascivious area
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
outnumbered telephone circlehead
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Lascivious area
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
outnumbered telephone circlehead
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Lascivious area
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Cracking red lodge
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
outnumbered telephone circlehead
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Lascivious area
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
outnumbered telephone circlehead
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Lascivious area
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Cracking red lodge
  12/17/25
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outnumbered telephone circlehead
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Mischievous Idea He Suggested Chapel
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
outnumbered telephone circlehead
  12/16/25
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Mischievous Idea He Suggested Chapel
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
wild point immigrant
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
outnumbered telephone circlehead
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
White Fear-inspiring Church
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
outnumbered telephone circlehead
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
thriller gaming laptop
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outnumbered telephone circlehead
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Cracking red lodge
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Costumed underhanded senate
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
bossy vigorous meetinghouse blood rage
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outnumbered telephone circlehead
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Costumed underhanded senate
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Cracking red lodge
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Cracking red lodge
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Lascivious area
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Beady-eyed fluffy scourge upon the earth azn
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Cracking red lodge



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: outnumbered telephone circlehead

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Cracking red lodge

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Lascivious area

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: outnumbered telephone circlehead

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Lascivious area

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: outnumbered telephone circlehead

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Lascivious area

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Cracking red lodge

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: outnumbered telephone circlehead

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Lascivious area

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: outnumbered telephone circlehead

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Lascivious area

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Cracking red lodge



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: outnumbered telephone circlehead



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Mischievous Idea He Suggested Chapel

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: outnumbered telephone circlehead

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Mischievous Idea He Suggested Chapel



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: wild point immigrant

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: outnumbered telephone circlehead

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: White Fear-inspiring Church

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: outnumbered telephone circlehead

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: thriller gaming laptop

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: outnumbered telephone circlehead



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Cracking red lodge



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Costumed underhanded senate

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: bossy vigorous meetinghouse blood rage

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: outnumbered telephone circlehead



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Costumed underhanded senate



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Cracking red lodge



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Cracking red lodge



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Lascivious area

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Beady-eyed fluffy scourge upon the earth azn

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515738)