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Date: January 16th, 2014 4:57 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish http://cultureshift.tumblr.com/post/54505134725/meet-walter-joshua-fretz-a-human-being (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845320) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 9:27 PM Author: Racy national security agency ...and this is why I'm pro-life for the last two trimesters, but pro-choice for the first. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24846796) |
Date: January 16th, 2014 5:05 PM Author: Bearded theater stage goal in life Poor dooder. :_( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845385) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:08 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish At least he left the world in loving arms. Most of these babbydoods don't even get a goodbye. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845400) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:08 PM Author: transparent church building genital piercing ick! Kill that lil parasite! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845404) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:10 PM Author: Odious angry office trump supporter woulda died without the mother anyway. who cares. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845412) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:11 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish Every child would die without a caretaker. What's your point? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845429) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:11 PM Author: Irradiated Deep Persian Stead lol literally no one cares what you have to say about anything ever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845431) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:13 PM Author: Odious angry office trump supporter i've gotten the most responses so far ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845450) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:18 PM Author: sienna community account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845483) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:45 PM Author: provocative pea-brained public bath dog poop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845857) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:11 PM Author: Irradiated Deep Persian Stead cop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845425) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:14 PM Author: Titillating quadroon Sad man... Probably would have been a gooddood. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845457) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:15 PM Author: Titillating quadroon Aren't we all really just a "clump of cells"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845460) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:16 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish Yes, but hard hearted libs are always like "clump of cells, QED!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845467) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:45 PM Author: provocative pea-brained public bath dog poop ...in this niggerish womb of life? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845860) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:17 PM Author: Appetizing trailer park fanboi That is actually really gross that she has it in her arms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845469) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:17 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish Him, not it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845473) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:17 PM Author: Odious angry office trump supporter that thing is definitely an it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845477) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:17 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot It's funny how hypocritical pro choice catholics are. Personally I dont think that thing in the picture was more of a sentient being than a goldfish.
Catholics though, think all those things are a human beings and that abortion is murder. Pro choice catholics pretend that they think abortion is murder, but should be legal anyway because of a shrew's right to privacy (lol).
Any pro life person who believes abortion is really murder should be firebombing every abortion clinic there is. |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:20 PM Author: sienna community account Can you really call yourself a practicing Catholic if you're pro-choice? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845488) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:22 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot ask John Kerry or any other hypocrite democrat union member.
My gf is a papist unfortunately and I give her shit about not bombing abortion clinics with her mother. I think she is pro life personally but does not have a problem with other people doing their thing - which seems weird to me. |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:10 PM Author: kink-friendly crackhouse patrolman my wife and i are catholics who hold the same position on abortion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845752) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:12 PM Author: Honey-headed dysfunction which is? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845765) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:24 PM Author: kink-friendly crackhouse patrolman pro-life in that we would never choose abortion and we would actively dissuade friends/family from choosing that option in most circumstances. ultimately, however, we respect a woman's right to privacy and believe the choice should rest with the individual. so, "pro-choice catholics" basically. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845809) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:47 PM Author: provocative pea-brained public bath dog poop agreed. the decision whether to kill a newborn who is less than 4 months old should also belong with the individual because we definitely need to respect a woman's right to privacy. the penumbras demand it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845864) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 7:39 PM Author: Burgundy Irate Set you talkin shit about penumbras? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24846152) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 7:07 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot so its murder of a human being with a soul, but not really that big a deal, and not worth doing anything to prevent? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845955) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 7:13 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish This directly contradicts church doctrine, so calling it "pro choice catholic" is like saying "I identify as an anarcho-capitalist who supports farm subsidies." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845997) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:24 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish You can call yourself whatever you want, but knowingly rejecting Church teaching on life ethics incurs a penalty of automatic (latae sentiae) excommunication. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845513) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:23 PM Author: Motley point Which in the long run really doesn't matter because our existence has no purpose and the church and god is just a social construct. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845806) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:34 PM Author: sienna community account *tips fedora* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845830) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:34 PM Author: Motley point lol, but seriously. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845833) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:20 PM Author: cordovan travel guidebook Clearly violent crime is the only logical response. I think Jesus even said something about murdering those who do wrong and destroying their property. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845491) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:22 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot you dont have to kill anyone to firebomb an abortion clinic and prevent murders from taking place there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845496) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:22 PM Author: Fantasy-prone Concupiscible Cruise Ship Preventive Strike I guess I get the privacy thing, though. If it's allowed in certain circumstances then you open the door to absurd legitimacy testing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845497) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:26 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot elaborate plz. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845526) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:33 PM Author: Fantasy-prone Concupiscible Cruise Ship Preventive Strike If you allow some circumstances where an abortion is acceptable, then the woman would have to somehow prove that her pregnancy was caused by one of them
Instead we take them at their word. The fact that some women then use it as birth control (which is what people have a real problem with) is the price we're willing to pay |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:35 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot I would say if you accept that abortion is murder then there is absolutely no circumstance where abortion is acceptable and should be legal, except if the mother's life in in danger.
So you got raped by your uncle? You dont want to carry a rape baby? boo fucking hoo, I dont want you to commit murder. It's a shitty inconvenience but you can have the baby and give it up. Sue the uncle for the pain and suffering and cost of carrying the baby. |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:41 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish Actually we can decide whatever circumstances are justifiable homicide instead of murder as we please. Abortion is killing =/= abortion is murder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845600) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:42 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot right, but I don't think catholics can make that determination. There is a not a lot of wiggle room for justifiable homicide for a good catholic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845610) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:45 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish Oh, I forgot we were still in that subthread.
Basically, Catholics may not intentionally kill the child no matter what. There may be a medical need to remove it from the mother's body to save her, then they will mourn the unintended death if it can't survive. |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:48 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot right. which is why I say pro choice catholics are hypocrites and not real catholics.
another person can believe, like I do, that the thing in the OP is not a living human being with sentience. Or a person can believe that it is a human being, but it is not wrong to kill the human being because of considerations like "the girl didn't feel like it"
I think the latter is a bit more morally suspect, but whatever. I guess people can believe prevent a woman's inconvenience having to host a parasite trumps killing a person. Just not Catholics. |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:57 PM Author: Fantasy-prone Concupiscible Cruise Ship Preventive Strike It's more than just an inconvenience, man
That said I think many people *do* find "convenience" abortions morally reprehensible. We assume it must be a very difficult decision for a person to make
Whether a "good" Catholic can do this I don't know
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:58 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot if you dont believe a fetus is a human life, like I dont, then you have no issue with convenience abortions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845692) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:02 PM Author: Fantasy-prone Concupiscible Cruise Ship Preventive Strike would you feel this way about your own gf, if she came to you saying she was at least a few weeks pregnant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845710) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:04 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot the difference is that I might care about the potential to have a child and be a father. I dont care about killing the fetus. But if I didn't know or didn't want a kid and my gf didn't want a kid, I have no moral issues with ending a pregnancy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845722) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:13 PM Author: Fantasy-prone Concupiscible Cruise Ship Preventive Strike I guess so. For me I know it would weigh on me a lot, so I don't creapie the gf/ use birth control.
Is there not a way for Catholics to do so too, in order to avoid committing the lesser of two "evils?" |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:41 PM Author: Fantasy-prone Concupiscible Cruise Ship Preventive Strike Well that's pretty extreme and carrying such a baby to term is more than a "shitty inconvenience"
There have been cases where the woman did. It should be a tough decision and we take their word for it that it is |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:22 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish Yes, because bombing abortion clinics is so helpful to the pro-life cause. It's not like bombings are constantly used to argue that pro-lifers are fine with killing people after they're born and to justify restrictions on pro-life activity. There is no message to be sent by non-violently protesting an act of violence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845499) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:25 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot its not about the pro life cause or protesting something politically. It's about knowing that babies are being murdered in your town every day and knowing that you can stop it from happening at that one location by committing an act of property violence that will hopefully not hurt anyone.
Shouldn't anyone morally destroy the train tracks/station going to Auschwitz? |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:25 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish Bombing abortion clinics does not decrease abortions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845522) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:27 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot maybe not if you just bomb the one. if you bomb all of them in an area you might discourage people from going, especially if they fear for their murdering lives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845537) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:32 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish Every time an abortion clinic gets bombed, people become more pro choice because they perceive it as extreme, laws get passed that make it more difficult to prevent abortions (bubble zone ordinances), and pro-lifers who could otherwise be sidewalk counseling, staffing crisis pregnancy centers, and adopting children go to prison instead.
It's hilarious how pro-aborts INSIST that they know the best way for pro-lifers to carry out their cause...no conflict of interest there at all. One could just easily say that libtards should go out and kill sidewalk counselors without shame if they truly believe that pro-lifers are trying to enslave women and deprive them of basic human rights. (Which has happened of course, there is no shortage of violence by pro-choice protesters). |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:36 PM Author: Abnormal hairraiser legal warrant boistinker LOL at your TTT command of bioethical debates, ape.
I take it you think that it's murder if the pregnant host I mean mom said "I don't feel like being pregnant any more. If the little guy makes it, good for him, I hope he enjoys his adopted family. So go ahead and induce labor and best of luck to him." The point is that the 19 weeks fetus can't survive without the pregnant lady's body, and even at some sort of fake line in the sand where extreme medical interventions can result in viability, it's still a gigantic personal cost for all involved to do that, let alone the social cost. At least arguably, the egalitarian position is that terminations are A-OK until third trimester, depending on how you feel about the right to live a life with a severe disability bc extremely premature babies are basically worse than a coin flip to be severely disabled.
That's leaving aside the more extreme cases like rape, incest, host I mean mom's life in danger. |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:40 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot calm yourself bel.
if you believe abortion is murder at any stage, then all considerations other than the life of the mother, including rape, incest, or forcing a woman to be a host for a parasite for a few more months - are secondary issues. |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:47 PM Author: Abnormal hairraiser legal warrant boistinker Is it "abortion" to induce delivery for a fetus pre-viability? You just give the pregnant woman a pill and then the baby comes out and let it do what it do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845637) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:49 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot yes, you are removing a baby knowing with a certainty you are killing it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845644) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:51 PM Author: Abnormal hairraiser legal warrant boistinker In what sense is it a certainty? Maybe the fetus is abnormally advanced in its development. Maybe there's some superdoctor at this hospital that has a breakthrough treatment that will rescue this 19 weeker, and give him a life as a champion pinball player a la Tommy. I don't know. I'm just a pregnant lady who wants control of her body. If he survives, good on him. I'm rooting for the little pre-dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845655) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:57 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot your interest in controlling your body is subordinate to the interests of not almost certainly killing the human being inside of you. It's not a certainty that if I shoot up a crowded room that I will kill anyone, but there is a good likelyhood and if it happens I will be convicted of murder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845688) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:59 PM Author: Abnormal hairraiser legal warrant boistinker I'm not killing it. The fetus' TTT lungs are killing it. I'm just stopping it from continuing to use my lungs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845699) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:02 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot yo can use shrew logic to spin it that way, but practically speaking you are making a decision to kill it because you dont want it parasiting on your body or whatever. If you believe that abortion is murder, then your privacy and body control considerations should be subordinate, that's all I am saying. As in yes you should be forced to host the baby just as a mother is prohibited from refusing to feed her children. The fact that there is no viable social services that can take away a fetus from a mother does not absolve her of the responsibility to care for it if you know it will die in the alternative. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845713) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:33 PM Author: Abnormal hairraiser legal warrant boistinker The false equivalence here is that a child who is protected by child welfare laws isn't by definition required to take from the birth mother for its survival. It can be given up for adoption before the birth mother leaves the hospital or at any point thereafter. Given this logic, it sounds like you want to keep the poor ghetto blacks alive in perpetuity with your blood donations in my hypo below, since your blood donation inconvenience considerations would definitely be trumped by poor ghetto blacks' rights to their lives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845829) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:07 PM Author: Abnormal hairraiser legal warrant boistinker Here's a hypo: every black person in the ghetto on welfare immediately gets a rare condition and will die without daily blood transfusions. The only people who carry the blood necessary to sustain the lives of poor blacks on welfare are Whites, Asians and especially 6'4" Hapas. The government passes a law that forces the Whites, Asians and 6'4" Hapas to give blood three times a week to keep the poor blacks alive. The constant blood donations weaken the Whites/Asians/Hapas to the point where some of them have to quit their jobs and there's a nontrivial economic cost. Other Whites/Asians/Hapas get Hep/Herp/HIVpwn3d bc the government is incompetent and always fucks stuff up. I assume you're cool with forcing the Whites/Asians/Hapas to give blood in perpetuity? How about just for 18 years? How about for six months, but there's still a 75% chance the poor blacks die? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845736) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:28 PM Author: cordovan travel guidebook Pretty sure Jesus said its your moral obligation to punish sinners and exact the lord's vengeance on those heathens. I think he called it jihad, which is an old timey acronym for Jesus has had enough! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845544) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:27 PM Author: Titillating quadroon Why? Is there some reason you feel Catholics must take proactive, illegal measures against those believed to be murderers? Why do other religions not have this duty? Do you have a duty to fire bomb Tsarnaev or Charlie Manson? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845538) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:31 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot this is not about punitive measures. this is about preventing murder. I bet most people would beat up tsarnaev or adam lanza to prevent them from killing innocent humans.
I'm pretty sure if there was a train track to Auschwitz next door, people would say it is my moral imperative to destroy or sabotage the tracks to delay or hinder the evil perpetrated along them.
Same idea with abortion clinics. Not about killing anyone, just hindering the instruments of murder where you can. |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:28 PM Author: transparent church building genital piercing (Tea Party terrorist) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845545) |
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Date: January 17th, 2014 12:19 PM Author: Swashbuckling turdskin house You seem to know not much about Catholicism, so you should STFU.
The distinction between your girlfriend letting you stick your cock in her and her having a pro-choice stance is very thin when it comes to catholic theology.
Both are reprehensible enough to send her to Hell, though both can be forgiven.
It is the Catholic stance not to interfere with anybody else's business too much. Jesus Christ would not have firebombed abortion clinics. Obviously the Pope isn't firebombing them either. Nor is he condemning Pro-choices any more vigorously than he is condemning adulterers.
Catholics aren't radical Muslims. They strive for what they believe is the most compassionate route. |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:27 PM Author: Abnormal hairraiser legal warrant boistinker What creepy fucks look at this and see a baby?
If he'd made it to 23 weeks in a forced birth state like Texas, assuming he was the exception that survived, his odds of being one or more of: 1) deaf, 2) blind, 3) MR pwn3d, 4) CP pwn3d, 5) autistic, 6) major heart defect pwn3d, 7) major GI defect pwn3d would be far higher than 50/50. Not to mention that he would've racked up an eight figure bill easily while in the hospital getting heroic intervenions on a daily basis for weeks on end. So please continue to force that experience onto fetuses like this one, oh bioethicist. Not to mention the untold expense onto the fetus' parents and the taxpayers, of which the medical costs of the birth are likely a tiny drop in the bucket. All bc the fetus' host I mean mom got in a car accident and is now brain dead. It's really great for your side of the argument. |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:39 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish What in the fuck are you talking about? The mom wrote the article linked to in the tumblr in the OP, so I'm pretty sure she isn't brain dead. Nor does recognizing the child's life require us to go through excessive medical intervention that would do more harm than good. That is not the only option besides throwing corpses in the dumpster because they're "just cells." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845595) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:44 PM Author: Abnormal hairraiser legal warrant boistinker 20 weeks right to life policy in action:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/husband-pregnant-wife-off-life-support/story?id=21291086
I.e., the major national news story on abortion that's relevant context for this Pro-Life screed. |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:48 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish Nothing in this thread requires or even suggests that outcome. I have no problem allowing people to die naturally with some dignity instead of putting them through extreme medical intervention. This applies to elderly people, severely injured, etc as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845641) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:53 PM Author: Abnormal hairraiser legal warrant boistinker I have no problem with recently pregnant ladies that want to cuddle with their babies that didn't make it. I just don't think there's a useful policy conclusion to draw out of this bc the bioethics are very complicated. It's the Pro-Life side of the debate that thinks one stupid picture like this is the end of the argument. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845670) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:00 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish No, 20-something polisci shitheads just like to attack a straw man where all pro-lifers are uninformed and brain washed. If only they were rational and educated, they would see the light, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845705) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:19 PM Author: Abnormal hairraiser legal warrant boistinker Sorry that other people aren't as moved by your stupid picture, bro. Try actually going through/having friends go through the process of trying to get pregnant, losing a pregnancy, having a baby that comes early, etc. and get back to us about how well-informed you are about all the ins and outs of child birth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845792) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:23 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish LOL. Your argument is that pro-lifers aren't experienced with pregnancy? Hilarious...libs are usually MAF that the Duggars and Palins have too many kids and the government should kill some to lower their carbon footprint.
I post an article written by a woman who literally just had a miscarriage, and your response is that it's ignorant about what it's like to lose a baby? |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:36 PM Author: Abnormal hairraiser legal warrant boistinker My argument is that it's ignorant to impose one's own experience and point of view about the experience on everyone else. This becomes obvious to anyone with a few brain cells to rub together who goes through the experience of a difficult pregnancy, and especially losing a baby, when you see how absolutely essential it is to actually want the kid if you're going to deal with everything the pregnancy and what will come after might entail. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845836) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:44 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish *uses needle and vacuum to impose point of view on a child capable of feeling pain* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845855) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 7:09 PM Author: Abnormal hairraiser legal warrant boistinker LOL. But but what about the opinions of the 10 oz fetus that can't breathe on its own?!?!
Brain dead people who are taken off life support also feel pain. I assume you also want to keep Terri schaivo et al alive forever and wait for brain transplants/medical science to catch up?
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Date: January 16th, 2014 7:14 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish (guy who didn't read the thread and thinks that not providing life support is the same as actively killing) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24846001) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 7:31 PM Author: Abnormal hairraiser legal warrant boistinker (Simple reptile steeped in reptile rhetoric who actually didn't read the thread)
I already stipulated with earl above: all abortions via labor inducement by drugs. We get rid of those icky needles and vacuums that are so uncomfortable for you (and leave aside for now your no doubt genuine concern about fetal pain in the process). The only "abortions" involve separating the non-viable fetus from the mother's body via vaginal delivery or c-section when the mother chooses. 19 weeks gestation bro in OP just comes off the life support that the host/mom's uterus provides for his not functional body. If he and the doctors who treat him can keep him alive the bully for him. Do we have a deal? Abortion debate solved? |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:32 PM Author: Laughsome fluffy center i feel far worse about eating pork than i do about that little alien being blended into a smoothie. i don't feel very bad about eating pork. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845569) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:37 PM Author: Titillating quadroon Trendy and cool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845591) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:45 PM Author: Lascivious cocky rigor parlour Can you stormfront faggots go into more detail about bombing abortion clinics while I contact the FBI? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845626) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:49 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot yes, call the FBI without reading the thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845649) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:54 PM Author: Lascivious cocky rigor parlour I'd prefer not to.
Just go ahead and picture a fetus that inevitably was going to practice [your religion] being fucking violently aborted, and tell me how your dumb ass is planning to retaliate by bombing clinics. Give some specific addresses, too. |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:58 PM Author: stirring disturbing school cafeteria idiot read my first post in this thread. carefully. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845696) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 5:52 PM Author: Vivacious Range http://www.l4l.org/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845663) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:00 PM Author: Very tactful cuckoldry http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2467238&mc=1&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845703) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:04 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish The pro-life movement doesn't make old, Bible-thumping men its only face. The libs and Jews in the media do that. Look into real activist organizations, you'll find plenty of women leaders, young people, medical professionals, professors, non-Christians, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24845719) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 6:08 PM Author: Very tactful cuckoldry link
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Date: January 16th, 2014 7:41 PM Author: Burgundy Irate Set Men complaining about a practice which enables women to make themselves sexually available, why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24846162) |
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Date: January 16th, 2014 7:43 PM Author: adventurous avocado meetinghouse death wish Men support a practice that drastically reduces the number of azn girls, why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24846172) |
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Date: January 17th, 2014 2:30 PM Author: self-absorbed fear-inspiring striped hyena hospital What a pointless existence, and who will pay for all the medical bills?! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24850187) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2014 12:17 PM Author: fragrant spruce dilemma internal respiration anytime you think being pro-choice is a rational position, just listen to libs on it and all of sudden i become way more pro-life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#24882896) |
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Date: September 21st, 2025 4:01 PM Author: adulterous stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#49289563) |
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Date: September 21st, 2025 4:06 PM Author: buff business firm It would never occur to me for a second that being "pro-choice"- where one of the 2 choices is the murder of a child- is a rational position. Are you fucking brain damaged from getting high on lead fumes? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#49289573) |
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Date: September 21st, 2025 4:07 PM Author: adulterous stage i also like to argue w people from 2014 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#49289574) |
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Date: September 21st, 2025 4:19 PM Author: cheese-eating contagious native how many pro-lifers do you know that have adopted an unwanted baby? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2470426&forum_id=2/en-en/#49289587) |
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Date: September 21st, 2025 4:35 PM Author: buff business firm Great excuse ! Someone in my close family adopted 2. They're grown now. |