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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Mentally Impaired Glittery Queen Of The Night
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Sick tattoo quadroon
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
geriatric startled senate roommate
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
exhilarant apoplectic hell rigpig
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
geriatric startled senate roommate
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
exhilarant apoplectic hell rigpig
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
geriatric startled senate roommate
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Mentally Impaired Glittery Queen Of The Night

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Sick tattoo quadroon

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Sick tattoo quadroon

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Sick tattoo quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Sick tattoo quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Sick tattoo quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Sick tattoo quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Sick tattoo quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Sick tattoo quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Sick tattoo quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Sick tattoo quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Sick tattoo quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49117359)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: geriatric startled senate roommate

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: exhilarant apoplectic hell rigpig

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: geriatric startled senate roommate

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: exhilarant apoplectic hell rigpig

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: geriatric startled senate roommate

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: histrionic umber native haunted graveyard

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: tan wild address mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: burgundy azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Translucent adventurous dopamine

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: frisky idiot potus

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Brilliant den

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: histrionic umber native haunted graveyard

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Pink Bbw

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Curious alcoholic step-uncle's house marketing idea

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: shimmering corn cake

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49105022)