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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Doobsian Spruce Patrolman
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just walk outside bro
ocher gunner main people
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
claret love of her life
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Lascivious Crystalline Ticket Booth Stock Car
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
claret love of her life
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
claret love of her life
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
amber menage messiness
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cq
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
Wild mauve depressive clown
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
mint beady-eyed stain hall
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Doobsian Spruce Patrolman

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: ocher gunner main people

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: ocher gunner main people

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: ocher gunner main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: ocher gunner main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: ocher gunner main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: ocher gunner main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: ocher gunner main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: ocher gunner main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: ocher gunner main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: ocher gunner main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: ocher gunner main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49128622)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: claret love of her life

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Lascivious Crystalline Ticket Booth Stock Car

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: claret love of her life

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Lascivious Crystalline Ticket Booth Stock Car

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: claret love of her life

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: plum fear-inspiring stage

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: balding cuckoldry kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: avocado know-it-all tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: amber menage messiness

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Zippy Charismatic Theater Stage

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Wild mauve depressive clown

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: plum fear-inspiring stage

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: mint beady-eyed stain hall

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: stimulating stage

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Out-of-control quadroon

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2/en-en/#49105022)