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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
Razzmatazz Stead
  03/19/18
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This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if t...
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Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases?...
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Stead

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: supple bossy idea he suggested principal's office

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Stead

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: Umber Trailer Park Gunner

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641317)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: submissive bisexual round eye parlour

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641319)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:22 AM
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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: insanely creepy death wish

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641323)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Stead

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Stead

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: Cracking Alpha

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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Pungent razzle-dazzle useless brakes



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Crawly dilemma



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: overrated indigo gas station hissy fit

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641326)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: House-broken chapel mood

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: deep amethyst windowlicker

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Stead

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: Mentally impaired skinny woman

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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35652523)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Cracking Alpha



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: Balding multi-colored institution hominid

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Stead

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Orchid Fighting Striped Hyena Degenerate

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Stead

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: Orchid Fighting Striped Hyena Degenerate

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Bronze exhilarant stage

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: submissive bisexual round eye parlour

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: chest-beating floppy messiness state

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Stead

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: overrated indigo gas station hissy fit

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: submissive bisexual round eye parlour



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: supple bossy idea he suggested principal's office

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Carmine Pisswyrm

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641395)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: supple bossy idea he suggested principal's office

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Stead

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: supple bossy idea he suggested principal's office

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: Bronze exhilarant stage

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641582)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Cracking Alpha

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641586)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: Bronze exhilarant stage

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641601)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Cracking Alpha

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Bronze exhilarant stage



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: chest-beating floppy messiness state

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: Carmine Pisswyrm

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641758)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Bronze exhilarant stage



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Bronze exhilarant stage

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35641868)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: Red National Nowag

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35645224)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: vigorous bespoke sneaky criminal

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35645255)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: Flesh Gaming Laptop

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Cerebral Maize Orchestra Pit

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36038917)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: Orchid Fighting Striped Hyena Degenerate

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36039460)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: brindle alcoholic personal credit line

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2/en-en/#36050530)