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Unbelievable how unproductive, time wasting and mindless most F500 employees are
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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:53 AM Author: fragrant point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890439) |
Date: April 29th, 2025 11:54 AM Author: garnet mediation why doesn't capitalism weed them out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890443) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:56 AM Author: fragrant point I really don't know. It's a great question. Maybe markets aren't as hyper-competitive as we like to pretend they are. It's a big open secret that anyone who observes these companies becomes privy to the more closely you interact with them (but there's no incentive to change the status quo because the supermajority of people within the company benefit from it, like a gentlemen's agreement that everyone just half-asses things). The average management-layer employee has a calendar full of meetings they don't contribute to but nevertheless sit in on (so they appear "busy"), 4 weeks of paid vacation that they assuredly take to the last minute, a couple weeks of fake sick time they finagle in, and they work a real 10 hours max per week putting together charts and "ideating." Projects take forever to complete; everything is constantly delayed; there are significant inaccuracies and mistakes that get glossed over by higher layers of management and leadership; there's no sense of urgency in anything unless it is externally imposed on them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890453) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:36 PM Author: Galvanic spot depressive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48891413) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 1:44 PM Author: exhilarant tank Actual capitalism would weed them out. The mutant freak neoliberal GC clown show we have rewards them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890701) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:31 PM Author: Unhinged wonderful fortuitous meteor dysfunction Actual capitalism has never been tried! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890830) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:36 PM Author: Frozen School Cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890856) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:13 PM Author: Racy well-lubricated station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48891355) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 9:32 PM Author: Blue Self-centered Incel Ladyboy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48891815) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 12:27 PM Author: charismatic violent new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48893574) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 11:55 AM Author: Bearded unholy site psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890449) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 12:08 PM Author: opaque stirring kitty large financialized, publicly traded corps should be thought of as fiefdoms made up of layers of retainers
everyone in every layer has retainers below them who serve them, all the way up to the very top. people are permitted to continue to exist within the organization to the extent that the usefulness that they provide as a retainer to others outweighs any friction or problems that they pose to others
retainers in medieval times didn't do anything most of the time, either. they just existed as parasites on the productive system around them until their lord called on them to do something, just like corporate employees with their boss(es) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 1:36 PM Author: fragrant point This is an interesting theory. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890685) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:00 PM Author: Dashing state cr the "Bullshit Jobs" book covers this aspect a little. larger headcount = more important = more power. it also gives individual managers or teams the room to cut headcount later as a tool to look like they're "doing something" in a time of crisis. summary: it's all fraud (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890740) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:25 PM Author: Slippery hall knife That’s actually a rubbish book. I’ve covered this iirc. He doesn’t do a very good job of delving into the BS and it’s kind of hard to do so when you’re a shitlib tbh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890801) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:26 PM Author: garnet mediation why haven't any conservatives shredded these companies for wasting shareholder money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890806) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:26 PM Author: Bearded unholy site psychic Most of it is him talking about the Nolan Batman movies and also being a jew iirc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890808) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:33 PM Author: Slippery hall knife He spends a lot of time praising Women and attacking the dumb things the military does. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890839) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:27 PM Author: Bearded unholy site psychic I think I already talked about him being a jew in my poast imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48891395) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:38 PM Author: opaque stirring kitty cr that book sucks and that guy was a Short jewish shitlib
i can't remember if he actually addressed what i described above but i stand by it as cr. anyone who has worked in these orgs can attest to this being how those orgs work |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:06 PM Author: Iridescent drunken weed whacker the output of the lower retainers isn't valueless. as the company grows the workforce specializes and becomes formalized. each activity of the company is spread over more and more people, so it becomes commoditized. the roles aren't useless, they are just increasingly simple. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48891334) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:17 AM Author: opaque stirring kitty yeah. also, the lower someone is in the retainer pyramid, the more work they're actually doing (typically) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48893093) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:20 AM Author: Iridescent drunken weed whacker Right the actual service most companies provide is very basic and can be performed in a totally rote way. Companies get complex as external relationships and organizational demands increase, hence most people push paper over email. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48893112) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:43 PM Author: opaque stirring kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#49385726) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:28 PM Author: Beta ultramarine marketing idea i really like it here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890817) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:35 PM Author: fragrant point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890849) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:32 PM Author: Lavender ceo not really. you just deal with lawyers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890835) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:34 PM Author: Slippery hall knife He’s perfectly describing Fake Jobs. Like 60% of F500 adult male employees with desks/computers have Engineering Deliverables. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890843) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:35 PM Author: fragrant point He knows this he just feels threatened. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890847) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:35 PM Author: Lavender ceo With the amount of RIFs last 3 years, I think most truly unproductive jobs are gone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890852) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:36 PM Author: fragrant point This is an insanely retarded POV. Large public companies are full of these positions still. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890857) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:37 PM Author: Lavender ceo please do tell me about these jobs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890865) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:40 PM Author: fragrant point I don't know what you would like me to say. I interact with and see this in management layers (especially) at F500 companies every day. The standards and tolerance for shirking / slacking / bullshit / half-assery / not giving a shit are still phenomenally high even after any sort of RIFs that have occurred. As I said above I think part of it is just tacit coordination/collusion--it benefits most people most of the time to keep things like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890879) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 5:57 PM Author: Lavender ceo So no examples? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48891307) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 5:59 PM Author: fragrant point Would you like me to start identifying individual employees at Raytheon? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48891313) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:01 PM Author: Lavender ceo job titles would suffice (open hiring positions?). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48891318) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:01 PM Author: fragrant point Okay let me pull a couple org. charts and some memos with their info just standby for a while hoss thank you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48891320) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:04 PM Author: Lavender ceo tyia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48891329) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 8:46 PM Author: Umber nighttime bawdyhouse milk agreed for most fortune 500's but not for the big banks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48891716) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:43 PM Author: Slippery hall knife Check whatever company you’re thinking about and the number of employees in 2019 vs 2025. The only layoffs I can think of were in bloated af tech Firms and western game developers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890891) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:39 PM Author: twisted candlestick maker national security agency lmfao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#49385716) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 2:35 PM Author: Diverse sanctuary private investor I have an F100, an F500, and a startup job. Of all of them, F100 is the least efficient and pays the most. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48890848) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 5:50 PM Author: fragrant point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48891284) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:19 AM Author: Bearded unholy site psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48893104) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 6:00 PM Author: Cracking buff boltzmann step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48891316) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 9:32 PM Author: ruddy misunderstood church nonstop "alignment" meetings where everyone wants to get involved but do nothing. it's pretty amazing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48891816) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 10:11 PM Author: Slippery hall knife Only in liberal arts jobs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48891947) |
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Date: April 29th, 2025 10:17 PM Author: Umber nighttime bawdyhouse milk my company has all these fucking retarded meetings about volunteering/discussing the strategy with people who are irrelevant to the "strategy" and inclusion meetings where we all just bullshit about our "concerns" which usually amount to "but why do I have to come into the office 3 times a week muh kids dentist appointment??" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48891970) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 7:02 AM Author: fishy cowardly house TCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48892699) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 7:08 AM Author: charismatic violent new version Alignment is my current most hated buzzword (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48892700) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 1:25 PM Author: ruddy misunderstood church heard it used here more in a month than in a lifetime of employment elsewhere. we even joke that it takes 5 months to align to do 5 weeks of work. what's amazing is that even if you align with a ton of people, some random person will still be pissed off that he wasn't in the loop, even though he's completely irrelevant. then there are people who make whole careers doing 100 lines of RACI, thinking this shit was even remotely useful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48893790) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 2:15 PM Author: Slippery hall knife Are you an Engineer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48893966) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 2:30 PM Author: ruddy misunderstood church no but work heavily with them. even they outsource the bulk to contractors & vendors, chiming in to "align" on shit. fucking LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48894017) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 10:57 AM Author: bespoke tantric degenerate WFH’s greatest gift is that I can just skip these meetings entirely now and no one notices (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48893265) |
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Date: April 30th, 2025 12:28 PM Author: charismatic violent new version You’re gonna be terminated by an AI for misalignment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#48893579) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 5:38 PM Author: twisted candlestick maker national security agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5718092&forum_id=2/en-en/#49385711) |