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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Razzle-dazzle wild party of the first part karate
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
impertinent haunted graveyard menage
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
impertinent haunted graveyard menage
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
supple fanboi
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Blue metal tanning salon bbw
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
anal kitchen
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
irate diverse native
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
onyx cracking theatre
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
onyx cracking theatre
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
onyx cracking theatre
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
aromatic hairy legs foreskin
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Orchid useless brakes
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Disgusting Excitant Boistinker Step-uncle's House
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
anal kitchen
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Razzle-dazzle wild party of the first part karate
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Talented church building roommate
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
frum senate preventive strike
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Arousing Misunderstood Generalized Bond
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Razzle-dazzle wild party of the first part karate
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Stirring Flirting Field Elastic Band
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic
  06/26/25
...
curious theater
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Trip goal in life
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
nighttime pink cruise ship kitty cat
  06/26/25
...
Lascivious nowag athletic conference
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
mind-boggling crystalline messiness sex offender
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
180 famous landscape painting mother
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Arrogant Gay Stage
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
180 famous landscape painting mother
  06/27/25
How was penn?
bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
anal kitchen
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
irate diverse native
  06/27/25
...
bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Salmon spot
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
180 famous landscape painting mother
  06/27/25
...
Autistic federal stead community account
  06/27/25
...
bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Arrogant Gay Stage
  06/27/25
How is STB?
irate diverse native
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Beta Stage
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
anal kitchen
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Trip goal in life
  06/27/25
...
appetizing area
  06/27/25
...
anal kitchen
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle wild party of the first part karate

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: impertinent haunted graveyard menage

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: impertinent haunted graveyard menage

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: supple fanboi

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Blue metal tanning salon bbw

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: anal kitchen

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: irate diverse native

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: onyx cracking theatre

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: onyx cracking theatre

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: onyx cracking theatre

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: aromatic hairy legs foreskin

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Orchid useless brakes

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Disgusting Excitant Boistinker Step-uncle's House

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: anal kitchen

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle wild party of the first part karate

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Talented church building roommate

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: frum senate preventive strike

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Arousing Misunderstood Generalized Bond

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle wild party of the first part karate

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Stirring Flirting Field Elastic Band

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: curious theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Trip goal in life

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: nighttime pink cruise ship kitty cat

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Lascivious nowag athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: mind-boggling crystalline messiness sex offender

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: 180 famous landscape painting mother

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Arrogant Gay Stage

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: 180 famous landscape painting mother

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: anal kitchen

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: irate diverse native

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Salmon spot

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: 180 famous landscape painting mother

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Autistic federal stead community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy sinister psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Arrogant Gay Stage

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: irate diverse native

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Beta Stage

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: anal kitchen

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Trip goal in life

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: appetizing area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: anal kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2/en-en/#49053817)