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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Amethyst Bateful Dilemma Yarmulke
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Cream Property Telephone
  12/16/25
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Amethyst Bateful Dilemma Yarmulke
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
titillating magical piazza
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Cream Property Telephone
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
titillating magical piazza
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Cream Property Telephone
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
titillating magical piazza
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Amethyst Bateful Dilemma Yarmulke
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Cream Property Telephone
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
titillating magical piazza
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Cream Property Telephone
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
titillating magical piazza
  12/17/25
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Amethyst Bateful Dilemma Yarmulke
  12/17/25
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Cream Property Telephone
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Henna Glittery Locale
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Cream Property Telephone
  12/16/25
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Henna Glittery Locale
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
exhilarant erotic deer antler
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Cream Property Telephone
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
mentally impaired jap
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Cream Property Telephone
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
hideous theater stage
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Cream Property Telephone
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Amethyst Bateful Dilemma Yarmulke
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
hairraiser sapphire shrine private investor
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Carmine geriatric forum faggotry
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Cream Property Telephone
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hairraiser sapphire shrine private investor
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Amethyst Bateful Dilemma Yarmulke
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Amethyst Bateful Dilemma Yarmulke
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
titillating magical piazza
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
sienna fragrant juggernaut
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Amethyst Bateful Dilemma Yarmulke



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Cream Property Telephone

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Amethyst Bateful Dilemma Yarmulke

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: titillating magical piazza

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Cream Property Telephone

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: titillating magical piazza

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Cream Property Telephone

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: titillating magical piazza

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Amethyst Bateful Dilemma Yarmulke

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Cream Property Telephone

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: titillating magical piazza

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Cream Property Telephone

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: titillating magical piazza

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Amethyst Bateful Dilemma Yarmulke



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Cream Property Telephone



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Henna Glittery Locale

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Cream Property Telephone

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Henna Glittery Locale



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: exhilarant erotic deer antler

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Cream Property Telephone

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: mentally impaired jap

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Cream Property Telephone

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: hideous theater stage

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Cream Property Telephone



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Amethyst Bateful Dilemma Yarmulke



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: hairraiser sapphire shrine private investor

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Carmine geriatric forum faggotry

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Cream Property Telephone



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: hairraiser sapphire shrine private investor



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Amethyst Bateful Dilemma Yarmulke



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Amethyst Bateful Dilemma Yarmulke



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: titillating magical piazza

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: sienna fragrant juggernaut

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en/#49515738)