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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Hilarious marvelous ape indian lodge
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Vivacious den
  12/16/25
18000
Hilarious marvelous ape indian lodge
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
bespoke avocado mood
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Vivacious den
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
bespoke avocado mood
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Vivacious den
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
bespoke avocado mood
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Hilarious marvelous ape indian lodge
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Vivacious den
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
bespoke avocado mood
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Vivacious den
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
bespoke avocado mood
  12/17/25
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Hilarious marvelous ape indian lodge
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Vivacious den
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Cream concupiscible locale
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Vivacious den
  12/16/25
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Cream concupiscible locale
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
thriller point
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Vivacious den
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
lemon disturbing school cafeteria
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Vivacious den
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
frisky orange heaven associate
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Vivacious den
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Hilarious marvelous ape indian lodge
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
flatulent trailer park cuckoldry
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
medicated space legal warrant
  12/17/25
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Vivacious den
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flatulent trailer park cuckoldry
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Hilarious marvelous ape indian lodge
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Hilarious marvelous ape indian lodge
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
bespoke avocado mood
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
dead parlor macaca
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Hilarious marvelous ape indian lodge



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Vivacious den

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Hilarious marvelous ape indian lodge

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: bespoke avocado mood

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Vivacious den

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: bespoke avocado mood

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Vivacious den

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: bespoke avocado mood

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Hilarious marvelous ape indian lodge

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Vivacious den

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: bespoke avocado mood

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Vivacious den

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: bespoke avocado mood

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Hilarious marvelous ape indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Vivacious den



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Cream concupiscible locale

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Vivacious den

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Cream concupiscible locale



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: thriller point

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Vivacious den

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: lemon disturbing school cafeteria

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Vivacious den

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: frisky orange heaven associate

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Vivacious den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Hilarious marvelous ape indian lodge



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: flatulent trailer park cuckoldry

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: medicated space legal warrant

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Vivacious den



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: flatulent trailer park cuckoldry



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Hilarious marvelous ape indian lodge



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Hilarious marvelous ape indian lodge



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: bespoke avocado mood

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: dead parlor macaca

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515738)