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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Awkward Talented Dog Poop
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal
  12/16/25
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Awkward Talented Dog Poop
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
khaki cerebral old irish cottage
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
khaki cerebral old irish cottage
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
khaki cerebral old irish cottage
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Awkward Talented Dog Poop
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
khaki cerebral old irish cottage
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
khaki cerebral old irish cottage
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Awkward Talented Dog Poop
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Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Plum Step-uncle's House
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal
  12/16/25
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Plum Step-uncle's House
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
misanthropic flirting love of her life library
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Cruel-hearted gas station useless brakes
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Glassy cowardly resort cumskin
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Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal
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Awkward Talented Dog Poop
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Insanely creepy water buffalo
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
chocolate blood rage
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Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal
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Insanely creepy water buffalo
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Awkward Talented Dog Poop
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Awkward Talented Dog Poop
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
khaki cerebral old irish cottage
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Orange underhanded institution
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Awkward Talented Dog Poop



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Awkward Talented Dog Poop

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: khaki cerebral old irish cottage

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: khaki cerebral old irish cottage

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: khaki cerebral old irish cottage

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Awkward Talented Dog Poop

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: khaki cerebral old irish cottage

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: khaki cerebral old irish cottage

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Awkward Talented Dog Poop



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Plum Step-uncle's House

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Plum Step-uncle's House



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: misanthropic flirting love of her life library

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted gas station useless brakes

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Glassy cowardly resort cumskin

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Awkward Talented Dog Poop



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Insanely creepy water buffalo

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: chocolate blood rage

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Vibrant lavender theater son of senegal



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Insanely creepy water buffalo



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Awkward Talented Dog Poop



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Awkward Talented Dog Poop



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: khaki cerebral old irish cottage

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Orange underhanded institution

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2/en-en#49515738)