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Book rec for boys ?

any books you read or wish you had read in high school? look...
concupiscible corn cake foreskin
  12/18/25
I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderso...
slap-happy lettuce pisswyrm
  12/18/25
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712? Reasonable price, ...
Charismatic resort brethren
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"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys...
confused library
  12/19/25
this is now forever in my search history I want you dead,...
confused library
  12/19/25
mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel
Bateful turquoise feces
  12/18/25
A few offhand: -On the Shortness of Life - Seneca -Sta...
crystalline community account
  12/18/25
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&a...
confused library
  12/19/25
or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of...
Brass ticket booth
  12/19/25
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razzle school faggotry
  12/18/25
Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters
Violet vibrant mad cow disease jap
  12/18/25
i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer readin...
concupiscible corn cake foreskin
  12/18/25
Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Ce...
Violet vibrant mad cow disease jap
  12/18/25
they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your...
concupiscible corn cake foreskin
  12/18/25
180
Violet vibrant mad cow disease jap
  12/18/25
The eyes and the impossible sourdough heart of samurai...
Splenetic faggot firefighter ceo
  12/18/25
rocket boys is 180
Out-of-control Anal Institution Private Investor
  12/18/25
Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo
Splenetic faggot firefighter ceo
  12/18/25
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Out-of-control Anal Institution Private Investor
  12/19/25
weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party...
Brass ticket booth
  12/22/25
CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" thos...
stimulating transparent coldplay fan
  12/18/25
he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that&rsq...
concupiscible corn cake foreskin
  12/18/25
The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)
Beady-eyed Church Sound Barrier
  12/18/25
ty for the recs, this is helpful i just asked him what bo...
concupiscible corn cake foreskin
  12/18/25
Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has rea...
Marvelous incel
  12/18/25
seconding count of monte cristo three musketeers is also ...
Bright Wonderful Stain Death Wish
  12/18/25
JackTales 🤡😳
Floppy university
  12/18/25
those are for reading out loud , clown
Splenetic faggot firefighter ceo
  12/18/25
The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton https://www.amazon...
fiercely-loyal state goyim
  12/18/25
Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz) We Were Soldiers Once… And...
purple forum filthpig
  12/18/25
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Contagious big-titted selfie
  12/18/25
I’m not even sure which author you’re talking ab...
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  12/18/25
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Contagious big-titted selfie
  12/18/25
he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers &qu...
cordovan insane nowag
  12/21/25
Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000
Out-of-control Anal Institution Private Investor
  12/18/25
No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a bet...
purple forum filthpig
  12/18/25
James Bond novels Conan (only read the flemming and howard...
ruby gunner chad
  12/18/25
The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.
crystalline community account
  12/18/25
Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 ...
ruby gunner chad
  12/18/25
Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new boo...
crystalline community account
  12/18/25
1. Goldfinger 2. Moonraker 3. Casino Royale 4. From Russ...
ruby gunner chad
  12/19/25
tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I th...
crystalline community account
  12/21/25
cr
Out-of-control Anal Institution Private Investor
  12/18/25
Anabasis
racy azure parlor depressive
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Contagious big-titted selfie
  12/18/25
Flowers for Algernon
fantasy-prone principal's office crotch
  12/18/25
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Contagious big-titted selfie
  12/18/25
a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it...
orchid sticky karate
  12/18/25
Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in ...
Bull headed motley lodge mad-dog skullcap
  12/18/25
Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?) Zen and the Art of Motorc...
hyperactive main people
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Contagious big-titted selfie
  12/18/25
read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class i...
concupiscible corn cake foreskin
  12/18/25
zorba the greek
Out-of-control Anal Institution Private Investor
  12/18/25
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purple forum filthpig
  12/18/25
Several good recs already upthread. Some others: The Thin...
stimulating transparent coldplay fan
  12/18/25
Cr. list I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit ov...
purple forum filthpig
  12/18/25
The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorit...
Pale hell hunting ground
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stimulating transparent coldplay fan
  12/18/25
agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise cau...
cordovan insane nowag
  12/22/25
Watership Down A Day No Pigs Would Die 2nd Where the R...
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Starship Troopers Enders Game Johnny Tremain Childhoods E...
bat-shit-crazy fuchsia boistinker temple
  12/18/25
A CONFEDERACY OF DUNCES
confused library
  12/19/25
Neon Bible better rec for younger kid
racy azure parlor depressive
  12/19/25
abridged edgar allen poe short stories
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake foreskin

any books you read or wish you had read in high school? looking for something that would be motivating / tools for life genre

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519424)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: slap-happy lettuce pisswyrm

I would have enjoyed sword and sorcery fantasy. Poul Anderson (Broken Sword, Three Hearts and Three Lions) Fritz Lieber (Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser) etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519444)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: Charismatic resort brethren

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276841789712?

Reasonable price, free shipping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519452)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: laughsome public bath headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519458)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:35 AM
Author: confused library

"There's a trip to the farmers market and time for toys and crayons, a bubble bath, and lots of love."

-- School Library Journal

"Will undoubtedly be scooped up by families seeking queer representation in board books."

-- Kirkus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49521596)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 2:42 AM
Author: confused library

this is now forever in my search history

I want you dead, Malk Poo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49521719)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: Bateful turquoise feces

mein kampf for late night reads that give you a good feel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519459)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: crystalline community account

A few offhand:

-On the Shortness of Life - Seneca

-Starship Troopers (the book is much better and more serious than the movie)

-Bonfire of the Vanities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519460)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:10 AM
Author: confused library

https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922329&mc=32&forum_id=2#35633765

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49521571)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 9:32 AM
Author: Brass ticket booth

or have the kid wake up xmas morning to an ACTUAL bonfire of his vanities

toughens him up a bit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49522050)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: razzle school faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519465)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: Violet vibrant mad cow disease jap

Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain for starters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519476)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake foreskin

i think my side of the mountain was one of his summer reading assignments



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519493)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:34 PM
Author: Violet vibrant mad cow disease jap

Where the Red Fern Grows, All Quiet on the Western Front, Celestine Prophecy, Lord of the Flies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519513)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake foreskin

they did lord of the flies already. ill look up some of your other recs, ty!

he just finished peak, so hatchet is a good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519523)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: Violet vibrant mad cow disease jap

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519559)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:01 PM
Author: Splenetic faggot firefighter ceo

The eyes and the impossible

sourdough

heart of samurai

artemis

rocket boys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519953)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: Out-of-control Anal Institution Private Investor

rocket boys is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49520282)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Splenetic faggot firefighter ceo

Every kid should read. It’s top of that list imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49521280)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:34 AM
Author: Out-of-control Anal Institution Private Investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49521595)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: Brass ticket booth

weird group called the "rocket boys" ran the party scene at my rural West Virginia high school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49530601)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: stimulating transparent coldplay fan

CR GOAT status books, but would one be "past" those by HS, especially later in HS?

My 7 year old just read--and really enjoyed--Hatchet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519755)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake foreskin

he’s 12/7th grade so i said high school since that’s more his reading level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519767)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Church Sound Barrier

The Swimming-Pool Library (fulano)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519483)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake foreskin

ty for the recs, this is helpful

i just asked him what book he’s reading (we’re on a flight) and its war and peace

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519489)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: Marvelous incel

Waste of time unless he's secretly 30+ years old and has read tons of other Russian lit and has a solid grounding in religion and philosophy.

Count of Monte Cristo is a goat novel that is also accessible and really exciting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519679)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: Bright Wonderful Stain Death Wish

seconding count of monte cristo

three musketeers is also great and vastly superior to any adaptation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519686)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: Floppy university

JackTales 🤡😳

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519490)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: Splenetic faggot firefighter ceo

those are for reading out loud , clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519956)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal state goyim

The Boy with Pink Hair by Perez Hilton

https://www.amazon.com/Boy-Pink-Hair-Perez-Hilton/dp/0451234200

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519492)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:32 PM
Author: purple forum filthpig

Quo Vadis (Sienkiewicz)

We Were Soldiers Once… And Young (Moore & Galloway)

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage (Lansing)

The Way of Men (Donovan)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519502)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Contagious big-titted selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519701)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: purple forum filthpig

I’m not even sure which author you’re talking about, though I’m 99.99% sure that it’s not Moore or Galloway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519724)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:41 PM
Author: Contagious big-titted selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519873)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: cordovan insane nowag

he doesn't like the term gay or homo and instead prefers "androphile," a term he uses to describe romance and sex between masculine men

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Donovan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49528627)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: Out-of-control Anal Institution Private Investor

Endurance: Shackleton’s Incredible Voyage 18000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519898)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:28 PM
Author: purple forum filthpig

No young man of any worth can finish that and not have a better idea of what it means to be a man and to experience the thrill, the triumph, of surviving impossible odds. Leadership, loyalty, discipline. And then they get home and are like, fuck it, sign me up for WWI’s trenches

My middle son needed a bit of coaching on perseverance, so we read this together and then did a HARD AS FUCK mountain bike camping trip in western NC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49520739)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: ruby gunner chad

James Bond novels

Conan (only read the flemming and howard originals though)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519505)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:39 PM
Author: crystalline community account

The first Bond novel is so good. Amazing call.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519535)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:51 PM
Author: ruby gunner chad

Once I got into the first one I burned through the rest (12 or so) in a summer. all were 180. I tried reading the non-flemming but its not the same. They don't write novels like that anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519587)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: crystalline community account

Any chance you can recommend your top 5? I need some new books to read.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519744)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: ruby gunner chad

1. Goldfinger

2. Moonraker

3. Casino Royale

4. From Russia With Love

5. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

the order changes based on mood but these five are in a tier above.

the rest are all solid. for example, Diamonds are Forever is my least favorite and that is still leagues better than any modern espionage novel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49522101)



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Date: December 21st, 2025 6:44 PM
Author: crystalline community account

tyft. I loved Moonraker. Will check out Goldfinger next I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49528612)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Out-of-control Anal Institution Private Investor

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519729)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:42 PM
Author: racy azure parlor depressive

Anabasis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519542)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: Contagious big-titted selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519572)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: fantasy-prone principal's office crotch

Flowers for Algernon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519548)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: Contagious big-titted selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519568)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: orchid sticky karate

a song of ice and fire. I'm not a fantasy guy and I loved it. great series for boys who like knights, politics, and violence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519602)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Bull headed motley lodge mad-dog skullcap

Patrick O'Byrne's Master and Commander and related books in the series

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519689)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: hyperactive main people

Hardy Boys (how old is your kid?)

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

Dune

anything recent by Lawrence Millman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519705)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: Contagious big-titted selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519706)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: concupiscible corn cake foreskin

read that, among others, for my contemporary thought class in hs. book was so so but class was 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519770)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: Out-of-control Anal Institution Private Investor

zorba the greek



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519710)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: purple forum filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519736)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: stimulating transparent coldplay fan

Several good recs already upthread. Some others:

The Things They Carried

Mark Twain--starting with Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn

1984

The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (and throw in The Hobbit)

Infinite Jest

Moby Dick

Blood Meridian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49519751)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:30 PM
Author: purple forum filthpig

Cr. list

I feel like The Things They Carried got a bit overexposed to the hopelessly feminized librarian space for a time and was looked down upon as kind of trite. But it’s 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49520745)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Pale hell hunting ground

The Things They Carried is the most classic writer's favorite. You shouldn't look down on librarian recs. This is all they do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49520815)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 10:12 PM
Author: stimulating transparent coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49521254)



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Date: December 22nd, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: cordovan insane nowag

agree with the first sentence and rec. need to exercise caution with the second and third sentences just given that the values may not be stoic masculine warrior

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49530736)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Soggy high-end electric furnace

Watership Down

A Day No Pigs Would Die

2nd Where the Red Fern Grows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49520246)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:33 PM
Author: bossy plum puppy gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49520756)



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Date: December 18th, 2025 7:40 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy fuchsia boistinker temple

Starship Troopers

Enders Game

Johnny Tremain

Childhoods End

Rama



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811707&forum_id=2/en-en#49520778)



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Date: December 19th, 2025 12:16 AM
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