is woody allen into being jewish? as much as he loathes being jewish, bring a secular self-hating american jew is the defining aspect of his identity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5729231&forum_id=2:#48967542)

This reminds me a number of years ago when my dad decided to ask me if I was angry at him because he was part Jewish (note: this guy never did anything Jewish in his life and his mother was a virulent antisemite). Totally baffled me. Apparently it was a plot point in some Russian drama he was watching which is what prompted it. While theoretically some people might think like this it seems like mentally ill behavior to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5729231&forum_id=2:#48968234)

I have no choice, being 100% Jewish and having a hook nose. My kids though may never identify as Jewish since we aren't religious and they have a totally different ethnicity to which they belong equally.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5729231&forum_id=2:#48967828)

i don't think bloodacre is ashamed. if he was he wouldn't be so open about his jewish heritage on an anonymous message bort. he's saying that for many jews it can be disadvantageous, and those won't identify as jews.

when blacks were persecuted white-passing blacks would hide their black heritage. now that being black is an advantage you've got dolezals.

when gays were persecuted most were closeted. now that it's an advantage tons of heteros claim to be gay or bi.

i don't think most in those groups were ashamed of their heritage. they just didn't put it on display when it would cause more harm than good. i doubt bloodacre's kids will be ashamed of their jewish heritage, but if jews are disfavored of course they will be more likely to hide their heritage. this is what happens when any group is disfavored by society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5729231&forum_id=2:#48968029)

b: "imagine pollacks feeling this way"

c: "there's no negative consequences for being polish"

b: "jews deserve those consequences"

c: "not all jews"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5729231&forum_id=2:#48968050)

"did brzezinski use his position in the us government to drag us into wars against poland's enemies? jews enjoyed every conceivable advantage in america and still couldn't help themselves."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5729231&forum_id=2:#48968092)

Date: May 28th, 2025 1:14 PM

Author: sam hyde inseminating boner police's mouth via gjr

did brzezinski use his position in the us government to drag us into wars against poland's enemies?

jews enjoyed every conceivable advantage in america and still couldn't help themselves.

if there's been a change in perception of jews in the public, it's only fairly recent:

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2023/03/15/americans-feel-more-positive-than-negative-about-jews-mainline-protestants-catholics/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5729231&forum_id=2:#48968111)

whether that anti-jewish sentiment is overblown isn't the issue. we're literally in a thread about jewish accusations. i don't think you're so obtuse that you'd say that there's *NO* anti-jewish sentiment when we're literally poasting on one of the most antisemetic message borts still around. there's no polish analog to that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5729231&forum_id=2:#48968125)

i think the goys are to blame for goy sentiment. what you're implying is that that negative sentiment is justified. which, again, for the jews that aren't advantaged by it, it is unfair that they're prejudiced for something they aren't responsible for and don't profit from.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5729231&forum_id=2:#48968149)

reminder: this subthread was about why jews may hide their heritage compared to poles, and now you've shifted it to jewish fears for personal safety, which no one said or implied.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5729231&forum_id=2:#48968200)

i told you above and invited you to explain what your point with that poast was. i described your point as "jews deserve those consequences." which you just repeated in this subthread btw. i accused you of trying to walk it back when you accused of me mischaracterizing what you were saying. and so i invited you to explain what your point was. and you just repeated "what did i walk back?" well, i just told you again: you seem to attempting to walk back "jews deserve those consequences" by denying that was your point without explaining what your actual point was. but maybe i'm wrong, which is why i asked you to just tell me what you meant, because i'm not mischaracterizing it on purpose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5729231&forum_id=2:#48968269)

here, i'll substitute the phrase you used, it's the same thing in the context of our discussion:

a: "jews that can pass as goys often do because for many there are negative consequences for having jewish heritage"

b: "imagine pollacks feeling this way"

c: "well, pollacks don't get blamed"

b: "there's a reason for that"

whether jews deserve a negative reputation, and however severe that negative reputation is, doesn't matter. my point from the outset is that people will hide their heritage when it's disfavored by society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5729231&forum_id=2:#48968378)

if suddenly there was anti-irish protestant sentiment because The Troubles reignited i wouldn't feel they need to defend my heritage. i have no association with ireland or any dog in that fight. and i'd avoid negative association with it because it has nothing to do with me. not because i'm ashamed of my heritage, but because i don't want to be associated with something i'm not apart of or be made to defend against it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5729231&forum_id=2:#48968422)

also it's a matter of degree and how much they "are" that thing. a secular jew with no ties to judiasm might actually feel they arent that thing (e.g. rsf, taking him at his word). and hiding could be anything from not broadcasting it to actively denying it.

in my irish example, im proud enough that I would never affirmatively deny my heritage. but im not flying the Irish flag either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5729231&forum_id=2:#48968532)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jquodnZP3Sc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5729231&forum_id=2:#48968080)