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Couldn't you fire "dummy missiles" alongside real ones to overwhelm defenses?

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in the...
slate menage
  06/18/25
Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the co...
Mauve goal in life
  06/18/25
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Burgundy Bespoke Fanboi University
  06/18/25
Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet...
slate menage
  06/18/25
What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does...
talented sepia lodge
  06/18/25
They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket...
Indecent beta church
  06/18/25
You can answer the question now
talented sepia lodge
  06/18/25
So this is actually an idea which people have used. The ide...
Mauve goal in life
  06/18/25
Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.
talented sepia lodge
  06/18/25
What if they use lawnmower drones?
talented sepia lodge
  06/18/25
Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then sh...
insecure national laser beams
  06/18/25
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slate menage
  06/18/25
Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?
Flickering Jet Pit Skinny Woman
  06/18/25
Yes
Mauve goal in life
  06/19/25
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Magenta heaven gunner
  06/18/25
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Fear-inspiring Stag Film Sweet Tailpipe
  06/18/25
(Bobby Birdshit)
yapping puce useless brakes orchestra pit
  06/18/25
Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release ...
Carmine titillating corner newt
  06/18/25
No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and...
talented sepia lodge
  06/18/25
Man think disabled people have it hard enough
slate menage
  06/18/25
This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.
Pearly at-the-ready sneaky criminal kitty cat
  06/19/25


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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:49 PM
Author: slate menage

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in them along with some that do, AA doesn't know the difference. Am I some insanely smart war strategist or what? Why doesn't Iran do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49029366)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: Mauve goal in life

Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the cost of the rocket.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49029376)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Burgundy Bespoke Fanboi University



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49029382)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: slate menage

Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49029414)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: talented sepia lodge

What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does it still require engineering you can barely fathom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49029418)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Indecent beta church

They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket. You could just fill the explosives chamber with rocks or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49029430)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:21 PM
Author: talented sepia lodge

You can answer the question now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49029456)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Mauve goal in life

So this is actually an idea which people have used. The idea is to overwhelm the defenses by sending a lot of dumber, low cost munitions, but sending a dummy makes no sense economically. At some point there are not enough anti-missile weapons to stop them all. This is why drones can be effective; send thousands to the same place you can’t shoot them all down (in theory — shoot drones is pretty easy with a gun based defense, but there are range issues).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49029477)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:49 PM
Author: talented sepia lodge

Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49030279)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: talented sepia lodge

What if they use lawnmower drones?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49029458)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:35 PM
Author: insecure national laser beams

Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then shoot them out of the real one once it gets close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49029498)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: slate menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49029596)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:40 PM
Author: Flickering Jet Pit Skinny Woman

Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49030056)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: Mauve goal in life

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49031438)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: Magenta heaven gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49030054)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring Stag Film Sweet Tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49030068)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: yapping puce useless brakes orchestra pit

(Bobby Birdshit)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49029422)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: Carmine titillating corner newt

Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release as they fly over high ADA regions. Supposedly some of the early Russian missile strikes in 2022 included completely inert iskander missiles whose explosive payloads were substituted entirely by decoys. This allowed them to fire volleys and have significantly more decoys to overwhelm air defenses, exactly as you suggested.

https://en.topcor.ru/24483-nyt-uznal-o-zapuskaemyh-rossiej-lozhnyh-celjah-vmeste-s-raketami-iskander-m.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49030052)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:51 PM
Author: talented sepia lodge

No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and 48 hours later poasters are saying it costs nothing to add a warhead. Guess Judaism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49030286)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:52 PM
Author: slate menage

Man think disabled people have it hard enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49030291)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:45 AM
Author: Pearly at-the-ready sneaky criminal kitty cat

This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2:#49031415)