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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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pale trump supporter senate
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Exhilarant mood kitchen
  12/16/25
18000
pale trump supporter senate
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Dashing crackhouse
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Exhilarant mood kitchen
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Dashing crackhouse
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Exhilarant mood kitchen
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Dashing crackhouse
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
pale trump supporter senate
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Exhilarant mood kitchen
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Dashing crackhouse
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Exhilarant mood kitchen
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Dashing crackhouse
  12/17/25
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pale trump supporter senate
  12/17/25
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Exhilarant mood kitchen
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
deep histrionic abode
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Exhilarant mood kitchen
  12/16/25
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deep histrionic abode
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Elite glittery set therapy
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Exhilarant mood kitchen
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
bistre godawful new version
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Exhilarant mood kitchen
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
charcoal fiercely-loyal locale
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Exhilarant mood kitchen
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pale trump supporter senate
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
cordovan rehab
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Carmine offensive kitty macaca
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Exhilarant mood kitchen
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cordovan rehab
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pale trump supporter senate
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pale trump supporter senate
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Dashing crackhouse
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Useless psychic
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: pale trump supporter senate



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Exhilarant mood kitchen

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: pale trump supporter senate

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Dashing crackhouse

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Exhilarant mood kitchen

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Dashing crackhouse

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Exhilarant mood kitchen

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Dashing crackhouse

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: pale trump supporter senate

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Exhilarant mood kitchen

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Dashing crackhouse

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Exhilarant mood kitchen

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Dashing crackhouse

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: pale trump supporter senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Exhilarant mood kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: deep histrionic abode

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Exhilarant mood kitchen

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: deep histrionic abode



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Elite glittery set therapy

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Exhilarant mood kitchen

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: bistre godawful new version

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Exhilarant mood kitchen

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: charcoal fiercely-loyal locale

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Exhilarant mood kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: pale trump supporter senate



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: cordovan rehab

i love scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515767)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Carmine offensive kitty macaca

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Exhilarant mood kitchen



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: cordovan rehab



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: pale trump supporter senate



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: pale trump supporter senate



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Dashing crackhouse

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Useless psychic

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515738)