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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Elite cerebral pit hissy fit
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
floppy submissive national legal warrant
  12/16/25
18000
Elite cerebral pit hissy fit
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Wonderful school cafeteria yarmulke
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
floppy submissive national legal warrant
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Wonderful school cafeteria yarmulke
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
floppy submissive national legal warrant
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Wonderful school cafeteria yarmulke
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Elite cerebral pit hissy fit
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
floppy submissive national legal warrant
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Wonderful school cafeteria yarmulke
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
floppy submissive national legal warrant
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Wonderful school cafeteria yarmulke
  12/17/25
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Elite cerebral pit hissy fit
  12/17/25
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floppy submissive national legal warrant
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Flushed swashbuckling locus
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
floppy submissive national legal warrant
  12/16/25
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Flushed swashbuckling locus
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
excitant roast beef
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
floppy submissive national legal warrant
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
vibrant gunner
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
floppy submissive national legal warrant
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
180 toilet seat
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floppy submissive national legal warrant
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Elite cerebral pit hissy fit
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
canary sinister hunting ground school
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
thriller cerise mother
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floppy submissive national legal warrant
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canary sinister hunting ground school
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Elite cerebral pit hissy fit
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Elite cerebral pit hissy fit
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Wonderful school cafeteria yarmulke
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Jade laughsome theatre wrinkle
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Elite cerebral pit hissy fit



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: floppy submissive national legal warrant

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Elite cerebral pit hissy fit

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Wonderful school cafeteria yarmulke

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: floppy submissive national legal warrant

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Wonderful school cafeteria yarmulke

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: floppy submissive national legal warrant

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Wonderful school cafeteria yarmulke

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Elite cerebral pit hissy fit

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: floppy submissive national legal warrant

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Wonderful school cafeteria yarmulke

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: floppy submissive national legal warrant

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Wonderful school cafeteria yarmulke

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Elite cerebral pit hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: floppy submissive national legal warrant



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Flushed swashbuckling locus

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: floppy submissive national legal warrant

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Flushed swashbuckling locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516177)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: excitant roast beef

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: floppy submissive national legal warrant

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: vibrant gunner

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: floppy submissive national legal warrant

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: 180 toilet seat

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: floppy submissive national legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Elite cerebral pit hissy fit



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: canary sinister hunting ground school

i love scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515767)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: thriller cerise mother

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: floppy submissive national legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516412)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: canary sinister hunting ground school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516560)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Elite cerebral pit hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516683)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Elite cerebral pit hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516681)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Wonderful school cafeteria yarmulke

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Jade laughsome theatre wrinkle

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515738)