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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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honey-headed haunting shrine jewess
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
stirring pistol boltzmann
  12/16/25
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honey-headed haunting shrine jewess
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
flirting generalized bond
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
stirring pistol boltzmann
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
flirting generalized bond
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
stirring pistol boltzmann
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
flirting generalized bond
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
honey-headed haunting shrine jewess
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
stirring pistol boltzmann
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
flirting generalized bond
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
stirring pistol boltzmann
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
flirting generalized bond
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honey-headed haunting shrine jewess
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stirring pistol boltzmann
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
bistre mewling spot patrolman
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
stirring pistol boltzmann
  12/16/25
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bistre mewling spot patrolman
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
confused resort
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
stirring pistol boltzmann
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Saffron Curious Queen Of The Night Place Of Business
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
stirring pistol boltzmann
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
nighttime prole laser beams
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honey-headed haunting shrine jewess
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
dashing church
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Razzle-dazzle low-t den
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stirring pistol boltzmann
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dashing church
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honey-headed haunting shrine jewess
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honey-headed haunting shrine jewess
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
flirting generalized bond
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
kink-friendly set ceo
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: honey-headed haunting shrine jewess



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: stirring pistol boltzmann

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: honey-headed haunting shrine jewess

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: flirting generalized bond

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: stirring pistol boltzmann

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: flirting generalized bond

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: stirring pistol boltzmann

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: flirting generalized bond

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: honey-headed haunting shrine jewess

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: stirring pistol boltzmann

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: flirting generalized bond

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: stirring pistol boltzmann

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: flirting generalized bond

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: honey-headed haunting shrine jewess



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: stirring pistol boltzmann



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: bistre mewling spot patrolman

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: stirring pistol boltzmann

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: bistre mewling spot patrolman



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: confused resort

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: stirring pistol boltzmann

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Saffron Curious Queen Of The Night Place Of Business

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: stirring pistol boltzmann

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: nighttime prole laser beams

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: stirring pistol boltzmann



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: honey-headed haunting shrine jewess



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: dashing church

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle low-t den

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: stirring pistol boltzmann



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: dashing church



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: honey-headed haunting shrine jewess



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: honey-headed haunting shrine jewess



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: flirting generalized bond

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: kink-friendly set ceo

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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