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Has anyone in history reached the level of worldwide fame Michael Jackson did?

Not even Jesus is on his level
Vibrant address
  10/16/25
he's not even the most famous person with "MJ" ini...
Odious Messiness Library
  10/16/25
Elvis was bigger than MJ 🙄
obsidian church building becky
  10/16/25
worldwide it’s michael and its not even close
Vibrant address
  10/16/25
Can’t argue with that, Chang
shaky amethyst round eye french chef
  10/16/25
WRONG https://static.dw.com/image/40162725_1004.webp
obsidian church building becky
  10/16/25
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Vibrant address
  10/16/25
youre being sloppy with your categories and numbers i pre...
cowardly motley incel
  10/16/25
let’s narrow it to at the peak of their fame, name rec...
Vibrant address
  10/16/25
Trump and it's not even remotely close
Odious Messiness Library
  10/16/25
There is a stratosphere of "globally recognizable"...
cowardly motley incel
  10/16/25
You’re a fucking retard and you’re over complica...
Vibrant address
  10/16/25
while still alive is an important component and you are not ...
Odious Messiness Library
  10/16/25
Taylor Swift is basically at that level rn
Supple Generalized Bond
  10/16/25
she’s not on Michael’s level at his peak no sorr...
Vibrant address
  10/16/25
you are so fucking weird
Odious Messiness Library
  10/16/25
She never had the universal appeal of MJ in the 80s.
obsidian church building becky
  10/16/25
Right. Swift fans are a certain type. But everyone loved Mic...
exhilarant vermilion foreskin
  10/16/25
but her fans are more devoted on average, so i'd say it's at...
floppy twisted circlehead dingle berry
  10/16/25
Would jet black Congo ophthalmologists know Taylor? I guess ...
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  10/16/25
...
floppy twisted circlehead dingle berry
  10/16/25
Even old people knew MJ. Nobody over 50 has any idea who Ta...
disrespectful friendly grandma center
  10/21/25
Theres something about music thats different to say a film/m...
pink half-breed kitchen
  10/16/25
Toddlers also know "SP" before seeing him but that...
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  10/16/25
How would toddlers know who spaceporn is? Do toddlers read...
obsidian church building becky
  10/16/25
When the lights go out in the playroom, they know
Indigo excitant regret resort
  10/16/25
jfc SP
Saffron Swashbuckling Trump Supporter Quadroon
  10/16/25
I think Michael Jordan got pretty close
exhilarant vermilion foreskin
  10/16/25
yeah he's the first one i think of for counter examples. ...
cowardly motley incel
  10/16/25
get out of my thread you insufferable autist
Vibrant address
  10/16/25
Jordan is a good one
Vibrant address
  10/16/25
I don't think most goat herders in Mongolia knew who he is
curious jade pisswyrm
  10/21/25
Trump obviously
flirting brethren
  10/16/25
LORD BYRON
orange toaster
  10/21/25
cr. he was famous worldwide at a time before tv, radio, etc....
Domesticated fuchsia house shitlib
  10/21/25
last 50 years? Other than MJ, probably Trump and Elvis
curious jade pisswyrm
  10/21/25
Muhammad Ali was more famous than Michael Jackson.
Costumed elite mad cow disease
  10/21/25
Religious figures don't count, Trumpkin.
obsidian church building becky
  10/21/25
Trump
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  10/21/25
Man, fuck these other comments. You're GODDAMN RIGHT that th...
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  10/21/25
Michael Jackson and Madonna wouldn't have been able to walk ...
Bull Headed Chartreuse Casino
  10/21/25
he wasnt even the most famous during his century. Elvis and ...
Domesticated fuchsia house shitlib
  10/21/25
Did people in Asia and Africa even know about Elvis and the ...
disrespectful friendly grandma center
  10/21/25
who cares what they think. the world is America and Europe.
Domesticated fuchsia house shitlib
  10/21/25


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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:48 AM
Author: Vibrant address

Not even Jesus is on his level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352666)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:56 AM
Author: Odious Messiness Library

he's not even the most famous person with "MJ" initials you tranny retard. you just like him because he was a disgusting pedo just like you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352673)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:49 AM
Author: obsidian church building becky

Elvis was bigger than MJ 🙄

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352668)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: Vibrant address

worldwide it’s michael and its not even close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352669)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:12 AM
Author: shaky amethyst round eye french chef

Can’t argue with that, Chang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352705)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:17 AM
Author: obsidian church building becky

WRONG

https://static.dw.com/image/40162725_1004.webp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352714)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: Vibrant address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352716)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: cowardly motley incel

youre being sloppy with your categories and numbers

i presume you mean "in his lifetime", and so of course Jesus is out of the conversation

and i also presume you mean total headcount of people who recognize this celebrity. so, naturally, anyone famous in an era of mass communication and a global pop over 5 billion is going to win.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352671)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:59 AM
Author: Vibrant address

let’s narrow it to at the peak of their fame, name recognition, face recognition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352679)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:01 AM
Author: Odious Messiness Library

Trump and it's not even remotely close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352683)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: cowardly motley incel

There is a stratosphere of "globally recognizable" and then all these unimportant, noisy factors like

- were there 8 billion people on earth, or only 6.9 billion (2001)

- how many chinks had internet access

etc

Every year there are more humans, and every year there is more distribution of media

So 2025 people will beat 2017 people, etc.

Does that make them "moar famous"? Mathematically, I guess.

I think the only meaningful thing to do is to acknowledge that a small group have reached "global fame while alive".

Popes, potuses, pop stars, soccer stars.

Again, presuming this whole convo is bracketed by 'while still alive'. Otherwise obv Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352719)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: Vibrant address

You’re a fucking retard and you’re over complicating this because you’re an autist. I told you upthread all we need to measure is percentage of worldwide name recognition and face recognition at their peak

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352793)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:00 PM
Author: Odious Messiness Library

while still alive is an important component and you are not explaining it clearly because you are a retarded tranny pedophile.

while still alive = Trump (not remotely close)

all time = Jesus (also not remotely close)

michael fucking jackson couldn't hold trumps nutsack and you are a retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49353115)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: Supple Generalized Bond

Taylor Swift is basically at that level rn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352681)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:03 AM
Author: Vibrant address

she’s not on Michael’s level at his peak no sorry

she’s absolutely the most famous living pop star though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352686)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:04 AM
Author: Odious Messiness Library

you are so fucking weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352688)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: obsidian church building becky

She never had the universal appeal of MJ in the 80s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352718)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: exhilarant vermilion foreskin

Right. Swift fans are a certain type. But everyone loved Michael Jackson

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352748)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: floppy twisted circlehead dingle berry

but her fans are more devoted on average, so i'd say it's at the same level overall. at the very least it's worldwide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49353171)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:23 AM
Author: Indigo excitant regret resort

Would jet black Congo ophthalmologists know Taylor? I guess they all have obamaphones so I guess so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352726)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: floppy twisted circlehead dingle berry



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:42 AM
Author: disrespectful friendly grandma center

Even old people knew MJ. Nobody over 50 has any idea who Taylor Swift is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49363758)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:07 AM
Author: pink half-breed kitchen

Theres something about music thats different to say a film/movie star like Tom Cruise/Brad Pitt etc where, even if some third worlder hasnt seen him live or on a TV, they're deeply familiar w the work and it transcends that person as a product, they become ethereal

sound gay but even toddlers would know "MJ" just from the beats before they ever saw him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352692)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:22 AM
Author: Indigo excitant regret resort

Toddlers also know "SP" before seeing him but that doesn't make him the most famous ever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352725)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:24 AM
Author: obsidian church building becky

How would toddlers know who spaceporn is? Do toddlers read xo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352735)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Indigo excitant regret resort

When the lights go out in the playroom, they know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352807)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: Saffron Swashbuckling Trump Supporter Quadroon

jfc SP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352964)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: exhilarant vermilion foreskin

I think Michael Jordan got pretty close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352745)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:33 AM
Author: cowardly motley incel

yeah he's the first one i think of for counter examples.

he reached the absolute pinnacle and there was nothing he could have done to increase recognition. he spanned the globe.

BUT he peaked during a smaller global pop and before the internet, so someone lesser than he, but who is famous today, would surpass his headcount.

you just need to identify the handful of people who maxed out, and he was one of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352754)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: Vibrant address

get out of my thread you insufferable autist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352971)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: Vibrant address

Jordan is a good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49352970)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:30 AM
Author: curious jade pisswyrm

I don't think most goat herders in Mongolia knew who he is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49363732)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: flirting brethren

Trump obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49353162)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: orange toaster

LORD BYRON

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49363722)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: Domesticated fuchsia house shitlib

cr. he was famous worldwide at a time before tv, radio, etc..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49363921)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: curious jade pisswyrm

last 50 years? Other than MJ, probably Trump and Elvis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49363733)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: Costumed elite mad cow disease

Muhammad Ali was more famous than Michael Jackson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49363752)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:46 AM
Author: obsidian church building becky

Religious figures don't count, Trumpkin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49363763)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: trip parlour mediation

Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49363755)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: hairless property

Man, fuck these other comments. You're GODDAMN RIGHT that the king of pop tops all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49363756)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: Bull Headed Chartreuse Casino

Michael Jackson and Madonna wouldn't have been able to walk down an alley in Madagascar without being screamed at and having their songs sung during their prime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49363759)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:41 PM
Author: Domesticated fuchsia house shitlib

he wasnt even the most famous during his century. Elvis and Beatles have him beat. maybe sinatra.

as for all of history op is clearly flame. but off top of my head: Jesus, Alexander, George Washington, napoleon, Byron, Shakespeare, etc...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49363934)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 6:55 PM
Author: disrespectful friendly grandma center

Did people in Asia and Africa even know about Elvis and the Beatles? I feel like they were more aware of Jackson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49364860)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 8:06 PM
Author: Domesticated fuchsia house shitlib

who cares what they think. the world is America and Europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2:#49364972)