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Boomer Litigator was F---en up our Trial
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:26 PM Author: ---------------!!!!!!!!!!!!!----------- Trial starts and we basically win on our motion in limine because the other side admits they have no evidence to offer on the issue (despite opposing our motion). Instead of just taking the win Boomer argues the Motion as if the Judge ruled against us. Client is sitting next to me asking WTF is "Boomer" doing? This goes on for like 7 minutes before the Judge is like stop you won.
This is a one-day bench trial and each side has one witness. Pre-trial we agreed that Boomer will cross their witness and I'll do direct of our witness. Half way through their witnesses testimony Boomer realizes he doesn't have a good handle of the facts (because I'd been doing all the work) and whispers to me asking if I want to do the cross. Of course I say yes because I don't want him the fu-- it up like he did earlier with the motion in limine.
Despite never having questioned a witness in Court (I've done a bunch of depos) I did okay on cross, then I handled our witness.
Judge just issued a bench ruling and my client pretty much won on all his claims plus attorneys fees which are provided for in the contract we were fighting about.
I have no idea how this Boomer has been doing it for 40 years (either he's slipping or he's always let others do the work and it great at claiming credit).
And my big takeaway from the trial is I hate litigation... |
Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:27 PM Author: .:.::;.:.;.::.;.:; Lolololol classic.
That Japanese movie about the sushi master was credited.
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:28 PM Author: Wes Scantlin But wasn’t it awesome to tHiNk On YoUr FeEt??? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205089) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:30 PM Author: ---------------!!!!!!!!!!!!!----------- Honestly I enjoyed writing the brief way more than conducting cross. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205093) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:30 PM Author: Wes Scantlin Very scholarly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205097) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:32 PM Author: .:.::;.:.;.::.;.:; Conducting a proper and competent cross that hits points and doesn’t get jammed on objections that have to be ruled upon is an objectively more valuable and scarce skill set. Many “think” they can do it: dunning Kruger is a powerful attractor on this point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205100) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:33 PM Author: ---------------!!!!!!!!!!!!!----------- 100%. I've done a trial cross exactly one time but I've written many many briefs, pleadings and motions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205102) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:36 PM Author: .:.::;.:.;.::.;.:; Yes. Good brief writers are a dime a dozen but the real value is in the “on your feet” and evading crap when putting on evidence. I’m serious. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:39 PM Author: ---------------!!!!!!!!!!!!!----------- And this is a skill that you really need to practice to perfect. Looking back at this trial a day later I'm like I should have asked X when he said Y, etc. Obviously the result was what the client wanted but I am far from a polished cross-examiner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205118) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:44 PM Author: .:.::;.:.;.::.;.:; Yeah for sure my man and every decade you get better at cross because you learn all the ways faggits prevaricate If boomer hadn’t sprung it on you last minute you could have hit more |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:47 PM Author: .:.::;.:.;.::.;.:; Just plan on doing it from now on boomer will let you now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205140) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:30 PM Author: unhygienic gay melvin Option (c) -- he's old and senile now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205095) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:32 PM Author: ---------------!!!!!!!!!!!!!----------- Yes, that's what I meant when I said he's slipping. He's been doing trials longer than I've been alive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205101) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:34 PM Author: .:.::;.:.;.::.;.:; Well respect him for that trials made him the man he is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205104) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:36 PM Author: ---------------!!!!!!!!!!!!!----------- Yes, I also respect him for recognizing that I should be doing the cross and for him having the confidence to let me do it knowing that I knew the facts and could call the witness out on his lies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205106) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:38 PM Author: .:.::;.:.;.::.;.:; Yeah. Timing for that realization could be better but he got it He’s probably awesome at slow and deliberate strategy and analysis in the office now. Better than anyone. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:38 PM Author: shroud of turin ((zurich is stained)) Congrats on examining a witness brother. Cross is hard (at least it is for me because nlrb litigation is trial by ambush - no discovery so you have to furiously write notes as the fgt testifies). Sorry about the boomer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205113) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:40 PM Author: ---------------!!!!!!!!!!!!!----------- Thanks! That NLRB shit sounds crazy... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205125) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 5:42 PM Author: .:.::;.:.;.::.;.:; Bench gdc trials $50k or under also have no Discovery in my state. Those can Be really fun And crazy stuff comes up
The real trick is pulling it off in front of jury |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 6:02 PM Author: ---------------!!!!!!!!!!!!!----------- Yeah this case had significant dollars at issue but both sides agreed to a fast-tracked discovery and trial process leading to a bench trial. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205216) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 6:08 PM Author: shroud of turin ((zurich is stained)) How many cases of yours go to trial in a typical year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205257) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 6:11 PM Author: .:.::;.:.;.::.;.:; Ten gdc bench trials and 3 multi day jury more or less. I’m 20 years in. I used to do about 25 gdc trials a year but I’ve moved up in the world.
In a typical year I typically work up and settle about 5x that on each. You can settle the clear winners when the money is right. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 7:18 PM Author: shroud of turin ((zurich is stained)) pretty 180. i usually try 3-5 NLRB cases and 5 or so arbitrations. and negotiate 10-15 CBAs, and i poast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205697) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 7:46 PM Author: .:.::;.:.;.::.;.:; I have arbitration coming up next month. Am in the middle of disclosure deadlines and last minute depos right now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205769) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 7:54 PM Author: shroud of turin ((zurich is stained)) Imagine running your practice with a drug/alcohol/sex addiction. Something else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205789) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 8:40 PM Author: .:.::;.:.;.::.;.:; Would be tough. Wins off the cuff w zero personal preparation beforehand would feel amazing though. Dangerously amazing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5765199&forum_id=2:#49205895) |