The USS Nimitz, a US Navy aircraft carrier, experienced a dual incident where a fighter jet, specifically an F/A-18F Super Hornet, and a helicopter, an MH-60R Sea Hawk, crashed into the South China Sea within 30 minutes of each other. Fortunately, all crew members were safely rescued and reported to be in stable condition. The incidents occurred on Sunday, October 26, while the USS Nimitz was conducting routine operations in the South China Sea ¹ ² ³.

The F/A-18F Super Hornet, assigned to Strike Fighter Squadron 22, "Fighting Redcocks", crashed around 3:15 pm local time, and both pilots ejected safely. The MH-60R Sea Hawk helicopter, part of Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron 73, "Battle Cats", went down earlier, around 2:45 pm, with three crew members on board, all of whom were rescued ⁴ ⁵.

The USS Nimitz is currently on its final deployment before returning to its home port in Naval Base Kitsap in Washington state. The incidents are under investigation, but preliminary reports indicate no hostile engagement was involved ³ ¹.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/us-navy-loses-two-aircraft-uss-nimitz-5426661?cid=FBcna

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Another aircraft carrier, the USS Harry S Truman, suffered a series of mishaps in recent months while deployed to the Middle East.

In December, the guided-missile cruiser USS Gettysburg mistakenly shot down an F/A-18 jet from the Truman.

Then, in April, another F/A-18 fighter jet slipped off the Truman's hangar deck and fell into the Red Sea.

And in May, an F/A fighter jet landing on the carrier in the Red Sea went overboard after apparently failing to catch the steel cables used to stop landing planes and forcing its two pilots to eject.

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China’s next-generation Type 004 carrier is widely expected to be nuclear-powered

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DESTROYERS:

Type 055 Renhai-class

~13,000 tons

Arleigh Burke Flight III

~9,700 tons

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This never happens with the Reddened Pisswyrms

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also, someone doesn't have to be the pilot to cause the crash.

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lol. Translation: Both aircraft have been repurposed for missions that officially don't exist. To make the books balance out, they "crashed into the ocean and sank." Completely standard to do this as Aircraft Carriers are being refitted or decommissioned anyway.

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https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/21/politics/two-navy-pilots-killed-jet-crash

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https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2025/10/28/did_china_down_two_us_navy_aircraft_in_southchina_sea_1143717.html

Did China Down Two U.S. Navy Aircraft in South China Sea?

By Paul Crespo

October 28, 2025

U.S. Navy

Accident or Attack? In what is considered a highly unusual event, two U.S. naval aircraft flying from the U.S. aircraft carrier Nimitz (CVN 68), an MH-60R Sea Hawk helicopter and an F/A-18 Super Hornet fighter crashed within a 30-minute time span in the volatile South China Sea on Sunday.

This is the fourth F/A-18 that the navy has lost this year.

The incidents occurred amid President Trump’s tour of Asia, during which he is expected to meet a host of Asian leaders, including China’s leader, Xi Jinping, making it more suspicious, and embarrassing.

The South China Sea is an extremely sensitive geopolitical region, and potential flashpoint for conflict, where China asserts ownership over much of the region, despite an international court ruling rejecting Beijing's claims.

Over the last two decades, China has bolstered its illegal claims by constructing military installations across the sea, including artificial militarized islands on reefs, challenging U.S. efforts to ensure freedom of navigation in these international waters.

The U.S. Navy's operations in the region are part of a broader strategy to counter China's maritime expansion and aggression.

Fortunately, all five U.S. crew aboard the two downed aircraft were rescued. While the USS Nimitz is our oldest carrier, commissioned 50 years ago and on its last deployment before decommissioning next year, experts say this is unlikely to be related to the two crashes.

Upon hearing of this rare occurrence many informed observers, and many uninformed ones, worried that the naval aircraft had been attacked with some sort of electronic warfare (EW) or Directed Energy Warfare (DEW) laser, or cyber weapon, causing them to fail and crash.

DEW, EW or cyber warfare, could all induce these crashes by disrupting flight systems subtly, including aircraft GPS, or frying electronics, especially in a contested area like the South China Sea where advanced Chinese surveillance ships and EW aircraft operate routinely.

China likely also has the capabilities to down aircraft, either through sabotage or flaws in our avionics that they have discovered through espionage.

All are part of China’s emphasis on ‘grey zone’ warfare.

Watch the video to see how China could have caused these crashes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMVjid-X5zQ

China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) doctrine includes targeting U.S. Navy carrier groups' electronic vulnerabilities, potentially causing cascading failures in coordinated operations like those from the USS Nimitz.

For instance, Chinese High-Power Microwave (HPM) weapons, such as those unveiled in 2025 capable of disabling electronics, could disable aircraft electronics non-kinetically, while aerial EW platforms like China's J-16D jets are designed to create "electronic nightmares" by overwhelming U.S. defenses.

These Chinese efforts are potentially more effective in the South China Sea due to China's A2/AD (anti-access/area denial) networks, and militarized artificial island outposts, though U.S. aircraft do have countermeasures like hardened electronics that should mitigate these threats.

If China did employ these measures, it would likely be detectable post-crash via telemetry analysis. Though, not with certainty. It would be most difficult to detect if this was a cyber attack.

After offering to help in search and rescue efforts, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman took the opportunity to criticize U.S. operations in the region, accusing Washington of carrying out regular displays of military force in the South China Sea (while ignoring its own displays), and claiming that these U.S. naval activities are increasing the risk to maritime activity, and undermining regional peace.

When President Trump was asked by a reporter aboard Air Force One enroute to Japan if he knew what had happened to the two aircraft Trump shrugged off worries of foul play, saying:

They're going to let me know pretty soon. I think they should be able to find out. It could be bad fuel. I mean, it's possible it's bad fuel. Very unusual that that would happen. We're going to find out. Nothing to hide. We'll find out.

Yes, it is very unusual, as Newsweek reported:

"it's certainly unusual to have two on the same day," said Matthew Savill, the director of military sciences at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI), a British think tank.

It is "odd for two aircraft to go down in separate instances, so close together in time," added Dan Rice, a former aide to Ukraine's commander in chief and West Point graduate currently the president of American University Kyiv. The U.S. Navy is likely to be on high alert.

And, as some have noted, bad fuel would likely affect more than just these two aircraft. Beware, Team Trump may be trying to downplay the event to avoid sabotaging his meeting with Xi.

If China was guilty, it would be an act of war. But it may be very difficult to prove.

However, it could be something else entirely. "Carrier operations are fearsomely complicated, especially on a big and busy one like the Nimitz," Savill told Newsweek.

"There are any number of small things that can go wrong which can have dangerous consequences."

Bad, or contaminated fuel, onboard the Nimitz could definitely have been one thing that could have gone wrong. But it could also have been an undetected Chinese DEW, EW, or cyber attack.

Either way, this is a costly couple of incidents, both financially, running into a couple of hundred million dollars, and reputationally. It is critical to quickly identify the cause.

Paul Crespo is a former Marine Corps combat arms officer who served with the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). He is President of the Center for American Defense Studies.

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