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Physicists need to address Zeno's paradox before doing anything else

The arrow one. Don't tell me math solves it.
vivacious knife piazza
  03/05/23
Why do you think math doesn't solve it? Usually people ar...
painfully honest irradiated field
  03/05/23
Math does "solve" it in the sense that, mathematic...
vivacious knife piazza
  03/05/23
Why only the arrow one?
painfully honest irradiated field
  03/05/23
It's the one Aristotle discusses, and it gets held out as an...
vivacious knife piazza
  03/06/23
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painfully honest irradiated field
  03/07/23
Vibrational motion creates time
Marvelous Chrome Site Jap
  03/05/23
Hmm
painfully honest irradiated field
  03/05/23
Creation of time isn't the issue. The issue is how an arrow ...
vivacious knife piazza
  03/06/23
Then how can you have deterministic events like an arrow pen...
vivacious knife piazza
  08/12/24
just google "how does calculus work" on youtube
Trip Nursing Home
  03/05/23
I understand the math, that's not the problem. We know intui...
vivacious knife piazza
  03/06/23
Maybe write the top physicists a letter to this effect; they...
Ungodly Library Legal Warrant
  03/06/23
Many of them know, believe me. But this guy thinks Aristotle...
vivacious knife piazza
  03/06/23
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vivacious knife piazza
  05/09/23
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vivacious knife piazza
  08/12/24
He has a PhD and a web site! "James went on to study...
vivacious knife piazza
  08/12/24
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vivacious knife piazza
  03/06/23
Physicists unable to address philosophy 101 problems, but cl...
Arousing locus coffee pot
  03/06/23
Planck solved 100 years ago but white people still cling to ...
vivacious knife piazza
  08/12/24
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honey-headed ape
  03/06/23
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vivacious knife piazza
  08/12/24
Good luck with that considering we live in a simulation and ...
Diverse slap-happy telephone
  08/12/24
how are they supposed to solve in when they are literally fr...
Medicated Whorehouse
  08/12/24
...
vivacious knife piazza
  11/15/25
someone solved this a couple years ago
Supple arrogant genital piercing
  11/15/25
PS Planck units seem to exist and they solve the paradox, ki...
vivacious knife piazza
  11/15/25
The arrow paradox is only problematic if you assume that tim...
salmon weed whacker goal in life
  11/15/25
It's less a 'paradox' about motion than the concept of infin...
Yapping corner
  11/16/25
Here's my solution: time is like those iPhone "live pho...
vivacious knife piazza
  11/16/25


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Date: March 5th, 2023 10:44 PM
Author: vivacious knife piazza

The arrow one. Don't tell me math solves it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46014710)



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Date: March 5th, 2023 10:46 PM
Author: painfully honest irradiated field

Why do you think math doesn't solve it?

Usually people are like duh convergent infinite series *hand wave*

I've never found that convincing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46014719)



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Date: March 5th, 2023 11:13 PM
Author: vivacious knife piazza

Math does "solve" it in the sense that, mathematically, you can deduce that an infinite series of points in time gets you to a finite result. But that could reflect a failure of mathematics. It's not proof of anything since mathematics is all symbolic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46014794)



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Date: March 5th, 2023 11:14 PM
Author: painfully honest irradiated field

Why only the arrow one?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46014798)



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Date: March 6th, 2023 3:35 PM
Author: vivacious knife piazza

It's the one Aristotle discusses, and it gets held out as an example of his thinking all the time. 2,400 years later Caltech can barely explain this shit better than Aristotle. Many physicists still think Aristotle was right. If time is like like a series of cells in a movie film roll, how can an arrow move between cells? How can you have motion without a mover?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46017034)



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Date: March 7th, 2023 12:25 PM
Author: painfully honest irradiated field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46020356)



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Date: March 5th, 2023 10:51 PM
Author: Marvelous Chrome Site Jap

Vibrational motion creates time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46014731)



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Date: March 5th, 2023 10:55 PM
Author: painfully honest irradiated field

Hmm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46014749)



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Date: March 6th, 2023 3:41 PM
Author: vivacious knife piazza

Creation of time isn't the issue. The issue is how an arrow can have velocity if time consists of discrete moments, and if at any given moment the arrow is at rest in one place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46017069)



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Date: August 12th, 2024 6:36 PM
Author: vivacious knife piazza

Then how can you have deterministic events like an arrow penetrating a target?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#47958167)



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Date: March 5th, 2023 11:15 PM
Author: Trip Nursing Home

just google "how does calculus work" on youtube

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46014801)



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Date: March 6th, 2023 3:35 PM
Author: vivacious knife piazza

I understand the math, that's not the problem. We know intuitively that arrows penetrate their targets before we even learn the math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46017038)



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Date: March 6th, 2023 3:42 PM
Author: Ungodly Library Legal Warrant

Maybe write the top physicists a letter to this effect; they probably will welcome input from someone not from what is traditionally called "the field," as they never get this type of idea from outsiders.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46017076)



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Date: March 6th, 2023 3:46 PM
Author: vivacious knife piazza

Many of them know, believe me. But this guy thinks Aristotle was right and shows the math. Even though the math checks out he says it makes him very uneasy. It should, because he's wrong.

https://youtu.be/u7Z9UnWOJNY?t=653

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46017090)



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Date: May 9th, 2023 7:50 PM
Author: vivacious knife piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46291692)



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Date: August 12th, 2024 5:01 PM
Author: vivacious knife piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#47957867)



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Date: August 12th, 2024 6:33 PM
Author: vivacious knife piazza

He has a PhD and a web site!

"James went on to study mathematics at Lancaster university. He was attracted by the challenge of the analytical and creative thought required in a maths degree, but it was probably the lack of essays and reading list he found most attractive. Later, James went to York university with the aim of getting a PhD and avoiding the real world for at least another three years. He was successful on both counts.

After working in research in combinatorics and group theory, James joined the Millennium Mathematics Project from the University of Cambridge. On their behalf James ran The Enigma Project, with the aim to bring mathematics to life through the fascinating history and mathematics of codes and code breaking. Spies! Secrets! And secret messages!"

https://www.singingbanana.com/about-2/

Can someone please email this thread to this poor dood?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#47958155)



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Date: March 6th, 2023 11:27 PM
Author: vivacious knife piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46018869)



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Date: March 6th, 2023 11:34 PM
Author: Arousing locus coffee pot

Physicists unable to address philosophy 101 problems, but claim philosophy is bs

LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46018895)



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Date: August 12th, 2024 6:25 PM
Author: vivacious knife piazza

Planck solved 100 years ago but white people still cling to aristotelian lies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#47958119)



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Date: March 6th, 2023 11:46 PM
Author: honey-headed ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#46018934)



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Date: August 12th, 2024 4:48 PM
Author: vivacious knife piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#47957806)



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Date: August 12th, 2024 4:51 PM
Author: Diverse slap-happy telephone

Good luck with that considering we live in a simulation and cannot access the source code. Boom is right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#47957818)



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Date: August 12th, 2024 4:53 PM
Author: Medicated Whorehouse

how are they supposed to solve in when they are literally frozen in place?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#47957825)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 10:24 PM
Author: vivacious knife piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#49434658)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 10:24 PM
Author: Supple arrogant genital piercing

someone solved this a couple years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#49434661)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 10:26 PM
Author: vivacious knife piazza

PS Planck units seem to exist and they solve the paradox, kind of. We measured black body radiation and found a Planck unit of difference between theoretical black bodies and real ones

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#49434666)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: salmon weed whacker goal in life

The arrow paradox is only problematic if you assume that time is equal to the sum of an infinite number of indivisible points, which is what Zeno was attempting to refute. We know from Cantor diagonalization that a continuous collection of points can't be ordered, therefore Zeno's hypothesis is false.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#49434673)



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Date: November 16th, 2025 1:18 AM
Author: Yapping corner

It's less a 'paradox' about motion than the concept of infinity generally. Consider: every rod has infinite length because it can be regarded as the infinite sum of increasingly small pieces! In either case, the conclusion proven by contradiction is that infinity doesn't exist or, at least, is useless as an explanatory concept for everyday reasoning. Oh, and notice that the 'solution' to the 'paradox' requires nothing like 'calculus' or anything fancy.

In other news and words, the 'great thinkers' of the past were actual retards by today's standards and are of limited and overrated utility.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#49434934)



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Date: November 16th, 2025 1:20 AM
Author: vivacious knife piazza

Here's my solution: time is like those iPhone "live photos" where there a little bit of motion in the photo. It's fallacious to assume there's no motion occurring within discreet units of time because we have no evidence of it and it creates a "paradox" to think of it that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5301402&forum_id=2:#49434939)