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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Geriatric stage cuck
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Dashing drunken institution jewess
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
dun address
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Dashing drunken institution jewess
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
dun address
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Plum depressive lodge
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Swollen orchid famous landscape painting
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Dashing drunken institution jewess
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Arousing crawly psychic step-uncle's house
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
tripping hunting ground bawdyhouse
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
hairless hyperactive center
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Dashing drunken institution jewess
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
hairless hyperactive center
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
hairless hyperactive center
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Dashing drunken institution jewess
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
At-the-ready mother
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Dashing drunken institution jewess
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Dashing drunken institution jewess
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Dashing drunken institution jewess
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Mind-boggling rambunctious nibblets
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
sooty passionate rigpig
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Arousing crawly psychic step-uncle's house
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Dashing drunken institution jewess
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Geriatric stage cuck
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Dashing drunken institution jewess
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
irradiated claret casino corn cake
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
blathering point
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
brilliant school
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Geriatric stage cuck
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Bateful Gaping
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Dashing drunken institution jewess
  06/26/25
...
bat shit crazy cerebral corner
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Aromatic Locus Idea He Suggested
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
jet-lagged hall
  06/26/25
...
light lascivious garrison
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
twisted athletic conference
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
shaky temple
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Pontificating partner
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Dashing drunken institution jewess
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
shaky temple
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Dashing drunken institution jewess
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Arousing crawly psychic step-uncle's house
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
tripping hunting ground bawdyhouse
  06/27/25
...
Dashing drunken institution jewess
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Misunderstood menage yarmulke
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
shaky temple
  06/27/25
...
dark vigorous chad
  06/27/25
...
Dashing drunken institution jewess
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Pontificating partner
  06/27/25
How is STB?
tripping hunting ground bawdyhouse
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
vengeful odious nursing home electric furnace
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Arousing crawly psychic step-uncle's house
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Aromatic Locus Idea He Suggested
  06/27/25
...
stimulating copper preventive strike sex offender
  06/27/25
...
Arousing crawly psychic step-uncle's house
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Geriatric stage cuck

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Dashing drunken institution jewess

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: dun address

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Dashing drunken institution jewess

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: dun address

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Plum depressive lodge

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Swollen orchid famous landscape painting

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Dashing drunken institution jewess

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Arousing crawly psychic step-uncle's house

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: tripping hunting ground bawdyhouse

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: hairless hyperactive center

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Dashing drunken institution jewess

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: hairless hyperactive center

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: hairless hyperactive center

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Dashing drunken institution jewess

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: At-the-ready mother

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Dashing drunken institution jewess

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Dashing drunken institution jewess

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Dashing drunken institution jewess

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Mind-boggling rambunctious nibblets

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: sooty passionate rigpig

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Arousing crawly psychic step-uncle's house

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Dashing drunken institution jewess

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Geriatric stage cuck

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Dashing drunken institution jewess

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: irradiated claret casino corn cake

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: blathering point

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: brilliant school

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Geriatric stage cuck

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Bateful Gaping

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Dashing drunken institution jewess

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: bat shit crazy cerebral corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Aromatic Locus Idea He Suggested

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: jet-lagged hall

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: light lascivious garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: twisted athletic conference

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: shaky temple

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Pontificating partner

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Dashing drunken institution jewess

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: shaky temple

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Dashing drunken institution jewess

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Arousing crawly psychic step-uncle's house

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: tripping hunting ground bawdyhouse

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Dashing drunken institution jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Misunderstood menage yarmulke

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: shaky temple

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: dark vigorous chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Dashing drunken institution jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Pontificating partner

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: tripping hunting ground bawdyhouse

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: vengeful odious nursing home electric furnace

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Arousing crawly psychic step-uncle's house

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Aromatic Locus Idea He Suggested

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: stimulating copper preventive strike sex offender



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Arousing crawly psychic step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053817)