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Scorching Fifth Circuit dissent - link

https://x.com/jadler1969/status/1991251392816611498?s=20
Bateful Bipolar Becky
  11/19/25
heres the actual dissent which is a thousand times more 180 ...
outnumbered know-it-all volcanic crater sanctuary
  11/19/25
cr. very xo 2020's poasting twitter images of parts of decis...
Mauve nursing home mental disorder
  11/19/25
Is Jerry a woman? The first 5 pages are just about the write...
zippy talented roast beef death wish
  11/19/25
honestly we need to pass legislation to limit judicial opini...
Underhanded main people
  11/19/25
*your legislation has been struck down as a vialation separa...
green up-to-no-good principal's office
  11/20/25
i love it when I have an old school contract or real propert...
Cerise Floppy Yarmulke Pisswyrm
  11/20/25
i got an A in fed courts, but can someone explain to me why ...
Mauve nursing home mental disorder
  11/19/25
3 judge panels are required by statute in certain Voting Rig...
Bateful Bipolar Becky
  11/19/25
ty. next q: how does an active non-sr COA judge end up a 3-j...
Mauve nursing home mental disorder
  11/19/25
The case goes to the original Dist. J. to whom it was assign...
appetizing frisky coldplay fan brethren
  11/19/25
woah. does any other suit get such procedure?
Mauve nursing home mental disorder
  11/19/25
Yes--Mostly but not entirely voting and elections related
appetizing frisky coldplay fan brethren
  11/19/25
This is still law bort
anal boistinker
  11/20/25
...
seedy property blood rage
  11/19/25
ty
Awkward alcoholic pistol
  11/19/25
Comes off ysff, almost as bad as TSINAH
electric olive mad cow disease parlour
  11/19/25
Blistering!
splenetic massive love of her life brunch
  11/19/25
"How dare they deny me the opportunity to offer my deep...
hot grizzly whorehouse new version
  11/19/25
It contains tons of thoughtful legal analysis if you’d...
outnumbered know-it-all volcanic crater sanctuary
  11/19/25
Wait, it's a Trump judge the dissent reamed? https://afj....
Bateful Bipolar Becky
  11/19/25
holy shit wtf
Mauve nursing home mental disorder
  11/19/25
Not only a Trump appointee, but from a highly conservative s...
Bateful Bipolar Becky
  11/19/25
very good point. and it also looks like he hawaii judge'd th...
Mauve nursing home mental disorder
  11/19/25
He was on the Texas (Civil) SCOTUS for 6 years, so there wou...
appetizing frisky coldplay fan brethren
  11/19/25
Wow. George Soros.
zippy talented roast beef death wish
  11/19/25
To be fair, 1. Extremely Boomerish dissent. There's no re...
Vibrant Mahogany Casino
  11/19/25
This is about as shocking a statement as you'll see in a &qu...
appetizing frisky coldplay fan brethren
  11/19/25
yep. he also says 20 times that the majesty of law is fraud ...
Mauve nursing home mental disorder
  11/19/25
This is in the same vein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM...
appetizing frisky coldplay fan brethren
  11/19/25
wow, is this real
Mauve nursing home mental disorder
  11/19/25
180 autism As he stood in that room describing the handgu...
racy locus
  11/19/25
i'm reading the berzon concurrence trashing van dyke: htt...
Mauve nursing home mental disorder
  11/19/25
"If, however, there were a Nobel Prize for Fiction, Jud...
Bright Contagious School Immigrant
  11/19/25
Wow. I'd love to meet Judge Smith's clerks. Or interview one...
puce senate jewess
  11/19/25
as everyone knows, he hires only 1Ls after one semester of g...
Deep mildly autistic shitlib
  11/20/25
I read the first few pages. The complained-of conduct--at le...
appetizing frisky coldplay fan brethren
  11/19/25
I'm sure the opinion is shit but going absolutely BERSERK ov...
Indigo halford
  11/19/25
lol this guy is 180 as shit fuck libs
bonkers pozpig french chef
  11/19/25
...
sable stimulating set
  11/20/25
page 16: Second, the other factors, discussed below, are ex...
Indigo halford
  11/19/25
...
Awkward alcoholic pistol
  11/19/25
Fifth Circuit guru says majority op is solid: https://x.c...
Bateful Bipolar Becky
  11/19/25
thanks, raffi!
Flickering henna abode
  11/20/25
Where are we at on this, reddit tranny?
Effete Carnelian Theater Stage
  11/22/25
This is THE DEFINITION of "yosemite sam fuming mad"...
domesticated locale
  11/20/25
the image of this guy driving back from a funeral steaming m...
Mauve nursing home mental disorder
  11/20/25
This is the type of rage that had to have come in pulsing wa...
domesticated locale
  11/21/25
https://files.catbox.moe/vf4g73.mp4
seedy property blood rage
  11/21/25
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/19/jeffrey-brown-texas...
Bateful Bipolar Becky
  11/20/25
the thing is blacks vote 95% dem, so you can never make a po...
Flickering henna abode
  11/20/25
and its also absurd that the court would find an argument th...
outnumbered know-it-all volcanic crater sanctuary
  11/20/25
...
comical half-breed
  11/22/25
or without appearing to specifically favor blacks either.
ruby odious rehab
  11/22/25
Favoring blacks and jews is fine. Favoring whites is wrong. ...
red sneaky criminal
  11/22/25
...
Flickering henna abode
  11/22/25
i get your point and agree that that's what some people and ...
ruby odious rehab
  11/22/25
Not valid in practice. The only place where adjustments matt...
red sneaky criminal
  11/22/25
...
ruby odious rehab
  11/22/25


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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Bateful Bipolar Becky

https://x.com/jadler1969/status/1991251392816611498?s=20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444729)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:28 PM
Author: outnumbered know-it-all volcanic crater sanctuary

heres the actual dissent which is a thousand times more 180 than that shitty twitter link:

https://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/gov.uscourts.txwd_.1150387.1439.0.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444771)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: Mauve nursing home mental disorder

cr. very xo 2020's poasting twitter images of parts of decisions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444819)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:32 PM
Author: zippy talented roast beef death wish

Is Jerry a woman? The first 5 pages are just about the writer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444945)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Underhanded main people

honestly we need to pass legislation to limit judicial opinions to a few pages at most, letting these faggots go on and on is bad for everyone and produces nothing, absolutely nothing, of value

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444826)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 6:25 AM
Author: green up-to-no-good principal's office

*your legislation has been struck down as a vialation separation of powers. The SCOTUS opinion is 6-2-1 and 800 cumulative pages.*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49445612)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: Cerise Floppy Yarmulke Pisswyrm

i love it when I have an old school contract or real property research project and find these 3 or 4-page opinions from 1921.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49446199)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:54 PM
Author: Mauve nursing home mental disorder

i got an A in fed courts, but can someone explain to me why a USDJ is on a 3-judge district court panel with judge smith of the 5th cir?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444830)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:05 PM
Author: Bateful Bipolar Becky

3 judge panels are required by statute in certain Voting Rights Act cases. Was enacted during the Jim Crow era to reduce the likelihood that some biased southern judge would disregard the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444859)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:11 PM
Author: Mauve nursing home mental disorder

ty. next q: how does an active non-sr COA judge end up a 3-judge usdc panel?

does this mean he's disqualified from being in the pool to hear the case in the 5th cir? and disqualified from sitting en banc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444882)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:37 PM
Author: appetizing frisky coldplay fan brethren

The case goes to the original Dist. J. to whom it was assigned plus 2 judges designated by POTUS of the relevant COA, at least one of whom must be a COA judge.

I presume the COA judge would not be on the panel for the appeal. Maybe he could be sitting en banc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444962)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:38 PM
Author: Mauve nursing home mental disorder

woah. does any other suit get such procedure?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444967)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:43 PM
Author: appetizing frisky coldplay fan brethren

Yes--Mostly but not entirely voting and elections related

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444978)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 2:03 AM
Author: anal boistinker

This is still law bort

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49445485)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: seedy property blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444987)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:30 PM
Author: Awkward alcoholic pistol

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49445071)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:06 PM
Author: electric olive mad cow disease parlour

Comes off ysff, almost as bad as TSINAH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444870)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:13 PM
Author: splenetic massive love of her life brunch

Blistering!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444885)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: hot grizzly whorehouse new version

"How dare they deny me the opportunity to offer my deep and thoughtful legal analysis!"

First sentence of dissent: "The main winners from Judge Brown's opinion are George Soros and Gavin Newsom."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444901)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:15 PM
Author: outnumbered know-it-all volcanic crater sanctuary

It contains tons of thoughtful legal analysis if you’d bother to read on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49445161)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:21 PM
Author: Bateful Bipolar Becky

Wait, it's a Trump judge the dissent reamed?

https://afj.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Brown-Snapshot-Final.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444919)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: Mauve nursing home mental disorder

holy shit wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444920)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:27 PM
Author: Bateful Bipolar Becky

Not only a Trump appointee, but from a highly conservative state with a Senator - Ted Cruz - who's normally very careful about ensuring no libs slip through.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444932)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:31 PM
Author: Mauve nursing home mental disorder

very good point. and it also looks like he hawaii judge'd the biden fraudvax mandate for fed employees

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444943)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:50 PM
Author: appetizing frisky coldplay fan brethren

He was on the Texas (Civil) SCOTUS for 6 years, so there would have been a strong track record of how he rules.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444992)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:23 PM
Author: zippy talented roast beef death wish

Wow. George Soros.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444926)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:29 PM
Author: Vibrant Mahogany Casino

To be fair,

1. Extremely Boomerish dissent. There's no reason this couldn't have been trimmed down to 20 pages.

2. Having said that, Jerry Smith has been one of the biggest COA > SCOTUS Feeders for decades. Libs might be laughing now, but this guy unironically has the ear of several SCOTUS Justices and he seems EXTREMELY PISSED about how all of this went down, on every level. When this decision inevitably gets appealed to SCOTUS, I'm not sure things will ultimately turn out the way libs are hoping they will. We'll see what unfolds!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444939)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:39 PM
Author: appetizing frisky coldplay fan brethren

This is about as shocking a statement as you'll see in a "scathing" dissent: "I also need to highlight the pernicious judicial misbehavior of U.S. District Judge Jeffrey Vincent Brown."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444968)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Mauve nursing home mental disorder

yep. he also says 20 times that the majesty of law is fraud and it's all politics. has any judge said such things in an opinion before?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444976)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: appetizing frisky coldplay fan brethren

This is in the same vein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMC7Ntd4d4c

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444986)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: Mauve nursing home mental disorder

wow, is this real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49445013)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: racy locus

180 autism

As he stood in that room describing the handgun, it seemed like any second he was going to casually pan to the side and have a bound and gagged shitlib and clinically explain the handgun's firing mechanism as he blows their brains out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49445189)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:59 PM
Author: Mauve nursing home mental disorder

i'm reading the berzon concurrence trashing van dyke:

https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2025/03/20/23-55805.pdf

where is she wrong? she kinda seems right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49445234)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Bright Contagious School Immigrant

"If, however, there were a Nobel Prize for Fiction, Judge Brown's opinion would be a prime candidate."

I'm going to be thinking about this sentence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444984)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: puce senate jewess

Wow. I'd love to meet Judge Smith's clerks. Or interview one or two.

I'd also love to know what the horse-trading there is behind the scenes on this one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444985)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:53 PM
Author: Deep mildly autistic shitlib

as everyone knows, he hires only 1Ls after one semester of grades

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49446658)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:53 PM
Author: appetizing frisky coldplay fan brethren

I read the first few pages. The complained-of conduct--at least the conduct Judge Smith is leading with--is that the majority didn't let him see a draft of their opinion until shortly before they issued it (with a note that Judge Smith would be appending a dissent).

That's it? That's his first and best argument? Who cares?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49444998)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:23 PM
Author: Indigo halford

I'm sure the opinion is shit but going absolutely BERSERK over drafting practices that the general public doesn't give a shit about dramatically undermines his dissent.

He sounds like some lawyer who brought in biglaw as co-counsel because he couldn't handle the case and is MAF that they filed the MSJ without getting all his edits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49445058)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: bonkers pozpig french chef

lol this guy is 180 as shit

fuck libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49445016)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:32 AM
Author: sable stimulating set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49445419)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: Indigo halford

page 16: Second, the other factors, discussed below, are extraordinarily week [sic] in this case.

Also page 16: If this were a law school exam, the opinion would deserve an “F.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49445063)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:30 PM
Author: Awkward alcoholic pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49445072)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 11:07 PM
Author: Bateful Bipolar Becky

Fifth Circuit guru says majority op is solid:

https://x.com/RMFifthCircuit/status/1991174150615081310

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49445339)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: Flickering henna abode

thanks, raffi!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49445885)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: Effete Carnelian Theater Stage

Where are we at on this, reddit tranny?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49451685)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 1:17 AM
Author: domesticated locale

This is THE DEFINITION of "yosemite sam fuming mad".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49445480)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: Mauve nursing home mental disorder

the image of this guy driving back from a funeral steaming maf is hilarious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49446187)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: domesticated locale

This is the type of rage that had to have come in pulsing waves. He'd start to calm down -- put down his pen, drawl out a "he's just a fucking fag, into that whole 'perry crew' cocaine and arthouses and experimental gay sex 'thing', fuck 'im" -- and then he'd pick up to finish off a footnote and something would set him off and he'd be back up to yelling at the clerks to tie some fishing line around a dildo "so we can lure that little poofter in here and teach him some fucking manners."

I at least credit his clerks for getting him to remove all the anti-trans slurs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49449379)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 7:58 AM
Author: seedy property blood rage

https://files.catbox.moe/vf4g73.mp4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49449172)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Bateful Bipolar Becky

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/19/jeffrey-brown-texas-redistricting-00660068

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49446088)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:47 AM
Author: Flickering henna abode

the thing is blacks vote 95% dem, so you can never make a politically driven redistricting without it appearing to target blacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49446192)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: outnumbered know-it-all volcanic crater sanctuary

and its also absurd that the court would find an argument that GOP is intentionally forgoing seats in favor of being able to racially discriminate persuasive. at absolutely no level of the party that makes choices about redistricting is a single person thinking this, and everyone knows it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49446200)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: comical half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49451675)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: ruby odious rehab

or without appearing to specifically favor blacks either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49451709)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:35 AM
Author: red sneaky criminal

Favoring blacks and jews is fine. Favoring whites is wrong. Read the constitution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49451723)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: Flickering henna abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49451791)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: ruby odious rehab

i get your point and agree that that's what some people and judges think.

i just wanted to add that when you adjust a district to make it more likely that a black will be elected, you are simultaneously making it harder for blacks to get elected in adjoining districts and are making black votes less powerful in the adjoining districts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49451824)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: red sneaky criminal

Not valid in practice. The only place where adjustments matter politically is in the 45-55% range. If you take a group's voice from 25 to 20% or 15 to 25%, it doesn't matter for that group's electoral results. Same if you increase their representation from 60 to 65%.

Where you can get in trouble, however, is when you try to over-optimize your safe seats by giving yourself 55% in a bunch of districts, putting the opponent into a single 95% district. That may be optimal some years, but every now and then an electoral shift comes along, and all of your 55% seats turn into 49ers, and the other side shoots the moon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49451900)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: ruby odious rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2:#49452019)