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Obamacare: the downfall of America?

Are most businesses going to cut employee hours to part time...
Cerebral bat-shit-crazy business firm
  11/16/12
Short answer: yes. Long answer: any one law (unless i...
boyish plaza gaming laptop
  11/16/12
What should a upper-middle class white do to secure their po...
iridescent public bath nowag
  11/16/12
probably where are you guys going to put your money? leav...
Cerebral bat-shit-crazy business firm
  11/16/12
(Mitt Romney, clearly still angry about losing the election)
impressive national toaster
  11/16/12
as dark as this sounds, this is probably the future of ameri...
Cerebral bat-shit-crazy business firm
  11/16/12
cr
irradiated sneaky criminal set
  11/17/12
a tad pessimistic. Because of the sheer size of the country,...
tan pea-brained market
  11/17/12
heh if "large scale secession" is the rosy scenari...
boyish plaza gaming laptop
  11/17/12
God you sound dumb. How the fuck is a state going to sece...
Thirsty medicated sanctuary
  11/18/12
what's more likely is that the federal gov will collapse/can...
Cerebral bat-shit-crazy business firm
  11/19/12
nah just the downfall of shitty, inefficient companies
shivering coiffed brunch coffee pot
  11/16/12
tbf, this is like saying a guy who opens fire in a crowded m...
tan pea-brained market
  11/17/12
The idea that in our shitcapitalistic society where employee...
Red orchestra pit sound barrier
  11/17/12
Not at papa johns where most employees are already making mi...
Haunting piazza sweet tailpipe
  11/17/12
(pumo problems)
Clear dashing field
  11/17/12
ONLY HOAP: MAJOR ADVANCES IN COMPUTING AND ROBOTICS SUPPRESS...
violent home
  11/17/12
Obamacare is actually the most retarded health care law that...
plum menage mediation
  11/17/12
but they had to pass it, just so they could know what's in i...
Soul-stirring judgmental state
  11/17/12
TI, OC, TCR
impressive national toaster
  11/17/12
Agreed. Government run healthcare has destroyed all other in...
swashbuckling dark church building athletic conference
  11/17/12
Not surprising you would make a post this stupid and wrong. ...
tan pea-brained market
  11/17/12
I love how you pretend that you are a libertarian when you a...
Haunting piazza sweet tailpipe
  11/17/12
how is his post not libertarian?
iridescent public bath nowag
  11/17/12
No, you just are incapable of coherent thought so anything t...
tan pea-brained market
  11/17/12
Have you ever argued against a Republican position on this b...
Hairraiser Primrose Forum
  11/17/12
corporatist care is republican, tard
iridescent public bath nowag
  11/17/12
Plenty of times, the reality however is that the majority po...
tan pea-brained market
  11/17/12
What's your take on unions and gay marriage?
lavender crackhouse mad cow disease
  11/17/12
Basically an attack against both the Dem and Repub stances ...
tan pea-brained market
  11/17/12
i am surprised you haven't left this board. in most debates ...
iridescent public bath nowag
  11/17/12
that's because he's a moron, though.
Fragrant domesticated karate
  11/17/12
Singapore doesn't help your case. It's a statist economy wit...
histrionic trump supporter den
  11/18/12
BUT IT HAS LOW TAXES AND IS THEREFORE AUSTRIAN ECONOMIC CAPI...
Clear dashing field
  11/19/12
singapore has a population of what, 5? the difference is tha...
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  11/19/12
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Green New Version Kitchen
  11/18/12
baffling how it's called obamacare when it's an assortment o...
Green New Version Kitchen
  11/18/12
stfu, conturds care about facts and would never defame a lib...
Red orchestra pit sound barrier
  11/18/12
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Date: November 16th, 2012 10:17 PM
Author: Cerebral bat-shit-crazy business firm

Are most businesses going to cut employee hours to part time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22060778)



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Date: November 16th, 2012 10:50 PM
Author: boyish plaza gaming laptop

Short answer: yes.

Long answer:

any one law (unless it was like "abolish the ownership of private property") wouldn't be the death of america.

if we were pretty much ONLY stupid on socialized healthcare, but were laissez faire in other areas, it wouldn't be a huge deal. i think hong kong has some socialized health care stuff, and they're doing alright i think?

obamacare PILED ON TOP of our existing debt and entitlements/giveaways/regulations will probably destroy all hoap, however.

THE FUTURE:

in a couple of decades the Dems will have established total electoral hegemony, regularly cruising to 350EV+ victories with even Texas having been turned blue due to underlying demographic changes. Instead of discussions of serious entitlement reform, the only political conversations will be which faction of the Democratic party should be appeased most this year, and whether the capital gains rate should be raised to 60% or 70%. 2/3 or more of all voters will vote not based on issues but which candidate "feels for people like them" the most, and the Dems will win over those emotional type voters overwhelmingly.

eventual, the economy/society will collapse, as people take to fighting in the streets and commie/fascist movements gain currency, as is happening in greece. some states may try and pull away, but they'll be crushed by the overwhelming might of the dying remnants of the US Federal Government. At least while those remnants exist, shortly before society totally collapses and we slip into a new dark age.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22060898)



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Date: November 16th, 2012 10:55 PM
Author: iridescent public bath nowag

What should a upper-middle class white do to secure their position? Move to Asia?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22060924)



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Date: November 16th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: Cerebral bat-shit-crazy business firm

probably

where are you guys going to put your money? leave them in american banks or move them to switzerland or what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22061235)



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Date: November 16th, 2012 11:08 PM
Author: impressive national toaster

(Mitt Romney, clearly still angry about losing the election)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22061020)



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Date: November 16th, 2012 11:38 PM
Author: Cerebral bat-shit-crazy business firm

as dark as this sounds, this is probably the future of america

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22061240)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 9:19 AM
Author: irradiated sneaky criminal set

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062332)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 10:37 AM
Author: tan pea-brained market

a tad pessimistic. Because of the sheer size of the country, I think you would see states fracture away from the union and some of those states, if only a minority, would still hold onto basic principles surrounding private property and liberty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062545)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:55 AM
Author: boyish plaza gaming laptop

heh if "large scale secession" is the rosy scenario we're still pretty fuct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062808)



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Date: November 18th, 2012 9:26 AM
Author: Thirsty medicated sanctuary

God you sound dumb.

How the fuck is a state going to secede from the Gov't and still function without Fed resources/benefits?

What, they are going to pay to fix THEIR OWN interstates?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22068029)



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Date: November 19th, 2012 1:24 AM
Author: Cerebral bat-shit-crazy business firm

what's more likely is that the federal gov will collapse/can't afford to function, yet states will not secede because there's no point since they are broke without the fed gov, and you will see mass emigration of recent immigrants back to their origin countries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22073296)



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Date: November 16th, 2012 10:52 PM
Author: shivering coiffed brunch coffee pot

nah just the downfall of shitty, inefficient companies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22060905)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 10:40 AM
Author: tan pea-brained market

tbf, this is like saying a guy who opens fire in a crowded mall is just going to mostly kill the slow and stupid. On the whole, probably correct, but irrelevant to any analysis (ethical or otherwise) of the legitimacy of opening firing in a crowded mall.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062553)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 4:42 AM
Author: Red orchestra pit sound barrier

The idea that in our shitcapitalistic society where employees have no rights that companies won't just factor in obamacare costs by lowering employee's salaries is SHITRIDUCLOUSNIGGACRAP

all these faggots just wnt give their employees wages and will use obamacare as an excuse to raise prices... they win in the end... fuck u niggas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062108)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 10:56 AM
Author: Haunting piazza sweet tailpipe

Not at papa johns where most employees are already making minimum wage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062598)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 5:02 AM
Author: Clear dashing field

(pumo problems)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062120)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 7:28 AM
Author: violent home

ONLY HOAP: MAJOR ADVANCES IN COMPUTING AND ROBOTICS SUPPRESS HEALTH CARE COSTS LOWER THAN WHAT OUR WILDEST DREAMS CAN CONJURE. RAISE YOUR CHILDREN TO COVET STEM DEGREES.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062224)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 9:28 AM
Author: plum menage mediation

Obamacare is actually the most retarded health care law that could have been passed. If you're going to socialize, just do single-payer system, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062348)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 10:31 AM
Author: Soul-stirring judgmental state

but they had to pass it, just so they could know what's in it!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062524)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 10:40 AM
Author: impressive national toaster

TI, OC, TCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062552)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 10:44 AM
Author: swashbuckling dark church building athletic conference

Agreed. Government run healthcare has destroyed all other industrial economies. I can't see how anyone would vote for obamacare considering what similar plans have done to Massachusetts, Switzerland, Singapore etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062555)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 10:49 AM
Author: tan pea-brained market

Not surprising you would make a post this stupid and wrong.

1) Obamacare != "Government run healthcare", it is a fucking mutation that has the worst of both socialized care and corporatist care.

2) The Swiss and especially Singapore systems are VERY different vs. American system (or even the Canadian and UK versions).

3) As others have said, Obamacare on its own is not horrible, if the government is not also fucking other things up. Singapore does a pretty good job in managing and staying out of other aspect of the economy, America and its government do not. Likewise, with Mass, it can afford to handle this because of its demographics, wealth and the fact that it is much easier to manage the bureaucracy of something like the ACA when it is over 6M instead of 320M people. The situation with No Child Left Behind is similar: Could work out alright when manged over 6M people but fails miserably when you try and implement over 320M.

Spend 30 seconds THINKING before you post moronic comparisons of apples and oranges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062570)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 10:58 AM
Author: Haunting piazza sweet tailpipe

I love how you pretend that you are a libertarian when you are really just a garden variety reptile.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062600)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:00 AM
Author: iridescent public bath nowag

how is his post not libertarian?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062605)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:00 AM
Author: tan pea-brained market

No, you just are incapable of coherent thought so anything that goes against your shitlib beliefs *must* be a reptile position.

For example, if you bothered to think, you would realize that no reptile would denounce "corporatist care".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062607)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:04 AM
Author: Hairraiser Primrose Forum

Have you ever argued against a Republican position on this board?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062620)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:05 AM
Author: iridescent public bath nowag

corporatist care is republican, tard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062623)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:07 AM
Author: tan pea-brained market

Plenty of times, the reality however is that the majority position on this bort is shitlib so most Republican positions are already sufficiently attacked. I have however still attacked their positions on unions, gay marriage, etc. Infact in this very thread I attack the current corporatist HC regime which is most certainly a Republican position.

What amazes me is that half of you think I am a reptile, the other half think I am an aspie who applies libertarian principles too far. Which is it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062626)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:10 AM
Author: lavender crackhouse mad cow disease

What's your take on unions and gay marriage?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062638)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:14 AM
Author: tan pea-brained market

Basically an attack against both the Dem and Repub stances

Unions: The idea of collective bargaining is 100% fine and the early anti-union actions (union busters, etc) were totally inappropriate. That being said, unions should not be afforded special legal bennies. That means not be allowed the block private property, force employers to deal with them, stop employers from firing people. etc.

GM: The government should have no role in defining or controlling marriage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062649)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:11 AM
Author: iridescent public bath nowag

i am surprised you haven't left this board. in most debates people simply insult you and fail to engage you intellectually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062641)



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Date: November 17th, 2012 11:14 AM
Author: Fragrant domesticated karate

that's because he's a moron, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22062647)



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Date: November 18th, 2012 10:19 AM
Author: histrionic trump supporter den

Singapore doesn't help your case. It's a statist economy with huge government relative to it's size. They've nationalized a bunch of industries and have huge entitlements, including the right to government housing, wHich like 90% of the population lives in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22068085)



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Date: November 19th, 2012 1:27 AM
Author: Clear dashing field

BUT IT HAS LOW TAXES AND IS THEREFORE AUSTRIAN ECONOMIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22073304)



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Date: November 19th, 2012 1:28 AM
Author: Cerebral bat-shit-crazy business firm

singapore has a population of what, 5? the difference is that america is far too big to be managed by a large entity like the us federal government in conjunction with state governments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22073312)



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Date: November 18th, 2012 9:45 AM
Author: Green New Version Kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22068060)



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Date: November 18th, 2012 10:26 AM
Author: Green New Version Kitchen

baffling how it's called obamacare when it's an assortment of policies pioneered by romney and ryan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22068095)



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Date: November 18th, 2012 10:32 AM
Author: Red orchestra pit sound barrier

stfu, conturds care about facts and would never defame a libturd policy or politicians based on irrational ideas that are not based 100% on facts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2116108&forum_id=2:#22068098)



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