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Visited NYC: My Thoughts

So as many of you know, I went to Zohran Mamdani's New York ...
Orchid Address
  10/07/26
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Swollen Odious Persian Idea He Suggested
  10/07/26
"I met up with poasters TMF and Mandy together at first...
tan laser beams
  10/07/26
Don't all those poasters live in Jewish enclaves in Florida ...
sick vibrant institution legal warrant
  10/07/26
i think are reptile recently said hes back in ny most of the...
burgundy laughsome hall
  10/07/26
Imagine taking your wife and kids on a trip then dipping out...
stimulating depressive
  10/07/26
Remember when disco dragged his family to LA for “vaca...
razzmatazz nubile cruise ship french chef
  10/07/26
lol pathetic
stimulating depressive
  10/07/26
We haven't been to NYC in years.
you're the puppet
  10/09/26
lol did mandy and tmf show you their favorite haunts by the ...
Hyperventilating cocky hominid
  10/07/26
Wait, so you're saying "New York City" is a real p...
Lake native
  10/07/26
tyft. does TMF still seem into MND? i'm always nervous for h...
indecent bistre space place of business
  10/07/26
They seem to have an awesome marriage. Mandy looks great and...
Orchid Address
  10/07/26
1800000. i'm rooting for them. insufferable humans but a goo...
indecent bistre space place of business
  10/07/26
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Orchid Address
  10/07/26
wow seems cr
indecent bistre space place of business
  10/07/26
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Math Professors Anxious
  10/09/26
Excellent trip report. Thanks.
stimulating depressive
  10/07/26
This is just sad
Honey-headed spectacular dysfunction
  10/07/26
i discussed the role of jews/israelis in the attacks with a ...
Avocado Boyish Fanboi Quadroon
  10/07/26
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indecent bistre space place of business
  10/07/26
Ran here to post this
Hideous very tactful nursing home dog poop
  10/07/26
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Bateful Forum
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Math Professors Anxious
  10/09/26
on the tradition item: one thing i've always liked about NYC...
anal goal in life affirmative action
  10/07/26
is that only cus of high population density? or is it also h...
Obsidian locus
  10/07/26
When you're the first to have stuff that's nice you don't ne...
Swollen Odious Persian Idea He Suggested
  10/07/26
assume both. probably also throw in everything from the mob...
anal goal in life affirmative action
  10/07/26
Scale has something to do with it. A mom and pop shop could ...
violent principal's office
  10/07/26
(Guy who has never been to a Duane Reade)
Swollen Odious Persian Idea He Suggested
  10/07/26
I think part of it is that it's expensive and hard for big c...
Lime aphrodisiac area psychic
  10/08/26
I remember Walmart's sad push into Urban DC. The H Street s...
peeface
  10/09/26
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Swollen Odious Persian Idea He Suggested
  10/07/26
CR. People engage way more with small and local businesses t...
violent principal's office
  10/07/26
ive lived in the same building for about 20 years and i woul...
Hyperventilating cocky hominid
  10/07/26
this is cause its inherently shitlib, SF also banned walmart...
Blathering olive gas station foreskin
  10/07/26
Based. Wal-Marts have shitty food and attract poor people. I...
Swollen Odious Persian Idea He Suggested
  10/07/26
*strolls through the theater district* "Theater. Gay. ...
sick vibrant institution legal warrant
  10/07/26
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indecent bistre space place of business
  10/07/26
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Hideous very tactful nursing home dog poop
  10/07/26
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Avocado Boyish Fanboi Quadroon
  10/08/26
NY is the one and only GOAT city in the world. London, Tokyo...
violent principal's office
  10/07/26
Great read Tyft.
Hideous very tactful nursing home dog poop
  10/07/26
Why don't you visit minsk?
Histrionic jet rigor range
  10/08/26
I would love to visit Minsk as well as cities across Russia....
Orchid Address
  10/08/26
It is a relatively small "boring" city. Most bitch...
Histrionic jet rigor range
  10/08/26
If you'll meet up with us there i will try to get there next...
Orchid Address
  10/08/26
Are you an officer or enlisted I’m going to Saudi ...
pontificating adventurous crackhouse striped hyena
  10/08/26
Officer. By your phrasing I take it you are doing a rotation...
Lucy Mercer
  10/09/26
If you really are in the military I guess a belarus stamp in...
,.,,,.
  10/09/26
is Russia itself any different from Russia 2021? my Russian...
peeface
  10/09/26
You'd get interrogated if you crossed into Russia. As a real...
,.,,,.
  10/09/26


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Date: October 7th, 2026 1:41 PM
Author: Orchid Address

So as many of you know, I went to Zohran Mamdani's New York for a four-day weekend. It was my first time in New York and New Jersey since I was an infant.

We drove 7-8 hours. No traffic on the way there. Pretty enjoyable drive in a manual sedan. Switched off with a couple hours to go and I read. It was dark when we arrived at the hotel in Ridgefield; we saw the lights of some buildings in the distance but I don't believe they were Manhattan. They were just a handful of tall but not super tall towers.

Hotel was obviously cheap and run by an Indian; super small room but clean. A strange woman seemed to live there, she would lock eyes with both myself and my wife each day at chance encounters, having a pleasant expression but saying nothing. She also haunted the parking lot and smoking gazebo, prowling around the cars including mine. I believed she was a prostitute.

Unlike in my home city, there was no feeling of unsafety or disgust on the bus used to get into town, although it was naturally uncomfortable. There was only one entry/exit and no middle door for some reason.

"Midtown" and Times Square were interesting but I did not have the feeling of amazement I had in the Dubai financial district back in 2019. Giant flashing screens obviously, huge naked sidney sweeney my wife commented on. I was distracted and maybe tired. Lots of pedestrians milling about like a European downtown, but everyone seemed to be a tourist. It had the character of a theme park for that reason rather than a community. There were a ton of "theatres" as in for stage plays, which seemed extremely gay. There were ads for plays that were currently running everywhere, and I couldn't imagine the type of person who would see such an ad and think "wow I should really invest X hundred dollars in that experience instead of just watching a movie." We saw grand central terminal which was awesome. A hundred years ago, there was a similar building in my hometown, which is a melancholy thought (it's now still standing prominently, but fully abandoned).

The next day we took the ferry to downtown and somehow it felt less like the entrance to Warped Tour with all kinds of people crossing two inches from your face (a good thing). Riding the ferry was cool and free. Impressive experience looking at the statue of liberty from afar and approaching the colossal city from sea level. We hid inside the Oculus all day due to threat of rain which was a bit of a waste, but it was interesting to see a real European style indoor mall in the US. We saw the 9/11 memorials which were impressive in person. I discussed the role of Jews/Israelis in the attacks with a tourist from Asia.

I met up with poasters TMF and Mandy together at first and later separately, and the poaster ARE Reptile formerly known as valen while I was in town. Felt grateful to get some insider tips from real locals who nevertheless felt like my own neighbors due to our shared poasting experience.

One night we drove to Asbury Park NJ to enjoy a rock concert, and seeing the shore was beautiful. The boardwalk was pleasant and free, busy but not mobbed. Bigger waves than the great lakes of course. A great show and a good time with no bad vibes to speak of.

The final day we walked the Brooklyn bridge and had a hipster coffee, which was great. Played with family in Central park. It was great to see children, even white children, having fun in the city which is very rare where I am from (seeing a child, period, in the central "downtown" is practically a cause for concern). In NYC we even saw kids and whole families walking around in the city like it was totally normal. High schoolers got on the bus and subway alone.

Overall, it reflected some elements of tradition, like an era in the US when people from all walks of life would partake in an urban community and not necessarily be inside their "mobile pod" (car) to get from anywhere to anywhere else. It seemed like young people would have some freedom in this community--the presence of a pretty big crowd everywhere you went seemed to lessen any sense of danger of abduction/violence. But we were not in the city after dark at all.

At one point we had a late lunch in NJ near the hotel, and we ordered and then I popped out to grab a white monster from the car for a pick me up, planning to sip it while waiting for our meal. This turned out to be a big problem for the hispanic staff of the Mexican restaurant, who told me it wasn't allowed and if I didn't hide it, "they" (somebody besides the guy talking to me) would take it and put it in the trash. I just said OK and put it under the table, not really caring (I'd already drunk half of it) but with the discomfort you'd expect as a grown man being scolded by an adolescent waiter for some bad behavior. It never dawned on me for one second that this would be a problem -- no establishment in my hometown, from Shake Shack to one of our many (really) five-star restaurants, would even mention this. I know because I do it somewhat routinely, which I understand is a low-income thing to do, but at the same time, who really cares. It's not like I could have ordered it off the menu. Well, the Mexican restaurant guys in Jersey apparently do care. Obviously a regional thing to care about, but not sure if that's because the place is high class, low class, or if it doesn't matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176472)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 2:21 PM
Author: Swollen Odious Persian Idea He Suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176579)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 1:44 PM
Author: tan laser beams

"I met up with poasters TMF and Mandy together at first and later separately, and the poaster ARE Reptile formerly known as valen while I was in town. Felt grateful to get some insider tips from real locals who nevertheless felt like my own neighbors due to our shared poasting experience."

Lol not flame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176479)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 1:45 PM
Author: sick vibrant institution legal warrant

Don't all those poasters live in Jewish enclaves in Florida now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176481)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 2:06 PM
Author: burgundy laughsome hall

i think are reptile recently said hes back in ny most of the year.

ljl if this meeting actually occurred though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176529)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 2:08 PM
Author: stimulating depressive

Imagine taking your wife and kids on a trip then dipping out a bit to meet some jewish lawyer who roleplays as a russian commie. Or even worse taking your wife and kids to meet said jewish lawyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176539)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 2:23 PM
Author: razzmatazz nubile cruise ship french chef

Remember when disco dragged his family to LA for “vacation” and promptly ditched them in some dumpy airbnb so he could go lick CSLG’s asshole?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176583)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 2:42 PM
Author: stimulating depressive

lol pathetic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176623)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 11:07 AM
Author: you're the puppet (I have the emotional height of an angry 6" gnome )

We haven't been to NYC in years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50180208)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 1:49 PM
Author: Hyperventilating cocky hominid

lol did mandy and tmf show you their favorite haunts by the javits center and up in harlem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176486)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 1:50 PM
Author: Lake native

Wait, so you're saying "New York City" is a real place? It's not like Wakanda or Africa or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176489)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 1:53 PM
Author: indecent bistre space place of business

tyft. does TMF still seem into MND? i'm always nervous for her because he always talks about how he only likes adult women that look like kids, and no one looks like a kid forever...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176497)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 1:58 PM
Author: Orchid Address

They seem to have an awesome marriage. Mandy looks great and she did not have a single bad thing to say about him when we were in private, not that we discussed him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176510)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 2:00 PM
Author: indecent bistre space place of business

1800000. i'm rooting for them. insufferable humans but a good match.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176514)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: Orchid Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50177063)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 7:05 PM
Author: indecent bistre space place of business

wow seems cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50177073)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 6:28 AM
Author: Math Professors Anxious



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50179909)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 1:57 PM
Author: stimulating depressive

Excellent trip report. Thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176506)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 2:01 PM
Author: Honey-headed spectacular dysfunction

This is just sad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176516)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 2:13 PM
Author: Avocado Boyish Fanboi Quadroon

i discussed the role of jews/israelis in the attacks with a tourist from asia tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176562)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 2:23 PM
Author: indecent bistre space place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176584)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 3:30 PM
Author: Hideous very tactful nursing home dog poop

Ran here to post this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176710)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:08 PM
Author: Bateful Forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50179529)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 6:28 AM
Author: Math Professors Anxious



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50179910)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 3:01 PM
Author: anal goal in life affirmative action

on the tradition item: one thing i've always liked about NYC is that despite being the heart of globohomo, somehow it has perversely been the slowest to submit to it

old markets, restaurants, supply chain businesses, diners, department stores, auto wreckers, family run stores, theatres, whatever.

your home town may have been paved over by Target, Applebees, Subway and Best Buy, but in NYC you can still go to the lunch counter at Sheinberg's Shoes for a coke float



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176661)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 3:14 PM
Author: Obsidian locus

is that only cus of high population density? or is it also hihg disposable wealth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176685)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: Swollen Odious Persian Idea He Suggested

When you're the first to have stuff that's nice you don't necessarily need a publicly traded company to come in and compete. Throwing up a Chipotle at a strip mall in Des Moines is a a revelation. Competing with Katz Deli sucks. Consumers can tell the difference between a historic business and globohomo slop. If you already had the best you're not looking for a worse experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176688)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 3:17 PM
Author: anal goal in life affirmative action

assume both. probably also throw in everything from the mob to byzantine municipal regulation to being the home of elites who will protect institutions in their backyard while sending bulldozers through yours.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176692)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 3:24 PM
Author: violent principal's office

Scale has something to do with it. A mom and pop shop could never compete with a 50,000 sq foot Walmart that sells just about everything. In NY, what does the national chain offer that a local place doesn't in a 500 square foot shop or restaurant?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176698)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 3:25 PM
Author: Swollen Odious Persian Idea He Suggested

(Guy who has never been to a Duane Reade)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176701)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:06 PM
Author: Lime aphrodisiac area psychic

I think part of it is that it's expensive and hard for big chains to expand into Manhattan with all the weird idiosyncracies that don't apply elsewhere (small footprint stores, no parking, just weird setups in general), they can probably more easily apply their model elsewhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50179525)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 2:25 PM
Author: peeface

I remember Walmart's sad push into Urban DC. The H Street store was a red tape and crime nightmare. They axed the other three they had planned to build. And then eventually shut H Street.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50180575)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 3:14 PM
Author: Swollen Odious Persian Idea He Suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176687)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 3:21 PM
Author: violent principal's office

CR. People engage way more with small and local businesses than in most places in the country, which is great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176696)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 4:55 PM
Author: Hyperventilating cocky hominid

ive lived in the same building for about 20 years and i would say 90% of local businesses have shuttered in that period. i dont think anyone can afford to pay rent.

i know its different in hells kitchen and the LES but there are no local hardware stores for example near me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176865)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 5:01 PM
Author: Blathering olive gas station foreskin

this is cause its inherently shitlib, SF also banned walmart and shit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176873)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 5:12 PM
Author: Swollen Odious Persian Idea He Suggested

Based. Wal-Marts have shitty food and attract poor people. I believe SF is a big Whole Foods area. It's good for you and skinny people like it and it's super expensive! One weird trick.

Everyone in lib cities is thin and attractive you cannot debunk this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176893)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: sick vibrant institution legal warrant

*strolls through the theater district*

"Theater. Gay. Uh, another theater. super-gay."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176677)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 5:01 PM
Author: indecent bistre space place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176874)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 7:33 PM
Author: Hideous very tactful nursing home dog poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50177131)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 3:44 PM
Author: Avocado Boyish Fanboi Quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50178820)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 3:19 PM
Author: violent principal's office

NY is the one and only GOAT city in the world. London, Tokyo, and LA can all keep each other company in tier 2.

I'm surprised you're surprised about the restaurant discouraging your Monster. That's pretty common. I just got Vietnamese food a couple days ago, and they had a handwritten sign prominently displayed on the door saying "no outside food or drinks," which was a little surprising itself, not in that it's their policy, but that it's enough of an issue that they wanted a sign about it to be the first thing you see when walking in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176693)



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Date: October 7th, 2026 3:32 PM
Author: Hideous very tactful nursing home dog poop

Great read Tyft.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50176712)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 9:20 PM
Author: Histrionic jet rigor range

Why don't you visit minsk?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50179420)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 9:27 PM
Author: Orchid Address

I would love to visit Minsk as well as cities across Russia. but what about this thread made you think to ask

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50179430)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 9:50 PM
Author: Histrionic jet rigor range

It is a relatively small "boring" city. Most bitches there dream of moving to Dubai and getting a sugar daddy. But it has all the things like theatre, kids walking in parks in the center of city,etc. And top of the line hotel would be $150/night

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50179489)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:04 PM
Author: Orchid Address

If you'll meet up with us there i will try to get there next time I am in Europe. But I am in the US military and unfortunately I believe there are some visa and security clearance complications because of that. But eastern Europe is amazing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50179522)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:09 PM
Author: pontificating adventurous crackhouse striped hyena

Are you an officer or enlisted

I’m going to Saudi soon, any tips?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50179534)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 5:21 AM
Author: Lucy Mercer (Safari)

Officer. By your phrasing I take it you are doing a rotation and not a vacation which would be cooler. Now is not the best time to be there (unless you'll actually be doing strikes, in which case, it is the best time to be there).

I assume your primary station will be the big one nearish to Riyadh although ive been to other small posts in the south and west, all of which have been bombed. There is a chance you will get bombed and die, so be sure to do your estate planning, insurance/account death transfers, tell your next of kin how to get the bills paid and access your xo account to notify us.

Depending on trump and Israel, you may be crouching in a "bunker" for up to an hour (maybe more now) per day. So know where they are near your work space.

I left there a few weeks before the february/march escalation, so contracted services were fully operational and the lifestyle was chill. That may no longer be the case, in which case the lifestyle will probably be a drag (two meals out of mermite boxes per day). However if it's an air force base the rules may be different. I was back on an army post by the time this started going crazy again after the 12 day war, and all civilians and MWR was shut down permanently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50179893)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: ,.,,,. (Fuck slavic whores)

If you really are in the military I guess a belarus stamp in your passport might cause you problems(at your job). But otherwise credit cards work there and it's almost like Russia in 2021 before the war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50180140)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 10:44 AM
Author: peeface

is Russia itself any different from Russia 2021? my Russian friends say its had little impact on them



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50180173)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 11:38 AM
Author: ,.,,,. (Fuck slavic whores)

You'd get interrogated if you crossed into Russia. As a real American they probably wouldn't arrest or even search your phone, you unless you're a faggot like that Whalen. But as a Russian American they'd go through my phone looking for a reason to arrest me. In belarus they just put a stamp in my ryssian passport and ask reason for visit "tourism". And in Russia u.s. credit cards and foreign phones don't work, you would literally need cash and and be without a phone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910549&forum_id=2:#50180268)