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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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mind-boggling locus coffee pot
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Emerald Dog Poop Home
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Adventurous High-end Ticket Booth Keepsake Machete
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Emerald Dog Poop Home
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Adventurous High-end Ticket Booth Keepsake Machete
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
aromatic regret
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Ivory stage blood rage
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Emerald Dog Poop Home
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
smoky embarrassed to the bone boiling water gas station
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
comical national
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Cyan double fault
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Emerald Dog Poop Home
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Cyan double fault
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Cyan double fault
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Emerald Dog Poop Home
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Soul-stirring Indian Lodge
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Emerald Dog Poop Home
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Emerald Dog Poop Home
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Emerald Dog Poop Home
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
lascivious erotic mad cow disease
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Laughsome resort
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
smoky embarrassed to the bone boiling water gas station
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Emerald Dog Poop Home
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
mind-boggling locus coffee pot
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Emerald Dog Poop Home
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Seedy Dashing Marketing Idea Stead
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Impressive Round Eye
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
brass associate
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
mind-boggling locus coffee pot
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
passionate yarmulke
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Emerald Dog Poop Home
  06/26/25
...
Dun Bipolar Trust Fund
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Trip Indecent Library
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
bistre bisexual psychic
  06/26/25
...
Crawly base
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
orchid pit
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
azure vibrant space
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
startling effete potus
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Emerald Dog Poop Home
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
azure vibrant space
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Emerald Dog Poop Home
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
smoky embarrassed to the bone boiling water gas station
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
comical national
  06/27/25
...
Emerald Dog Poop Home
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Disturbing Razzmatazz Codepig
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
azure vibrant space
  06/27/25
...
Well-lubricated contagious hall faggot firefighter
  06/27/25
...
Emerald Dog Poop Home
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
startling effete potus
  06/27/25
How is STB?
comical national
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
ocher massive private investor
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
smoky embarrassed to the bone boiling water gas station
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Trip Indecent Library
  06/27/25
...
duck-like fanboi degenerate
  06/27/25
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smoky embarrassed to the bone boiling water gas station
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: mind-boggling locus coffee pot

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Emerald Dog Poop Home

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Adventurous High-end Ticket Booth Keepsake Machete

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Emerald Dog Poop Home

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Adventurous High-end Ticket Booth Keepsake Machete

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: aromatic regret

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Ivory stage blood rage

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Emerald Dog Poop Home

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: smoky embarrassed to the bone boiling water gas station

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: comical national

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Cyan double fault

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Emerald Dog Poop Home

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Cyan double fault

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Cyan double fault

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Emerald Dog Poop Home

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Indian Lodge

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Emerald Dog Poop Home

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Emerald Dog Poop Home

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Emerald Dog Poop Home

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: lascivious erotic mad cow disease

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Laughsome resort

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: smoky embarrassed to the bone boiling water gas station

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Emerald Dog Poop Home

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: mind-boggling locus coffee pot

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Emerald Dog Poop Home

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Seedy Dashing Marketing Idea Stead

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Impressive Round Eye

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: brass associate

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: mind-boggling locus coffee pot

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: passionate yarmulke

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Emerald Dog Poop Home

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Dun Bipolar Trust Fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Trip Indecent Library

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: bistre bisexual psychic

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Crawly base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: orchid pit

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: azure vibrant space

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: startling effete potus

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Emerald Dog Poop Home

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: azure vibrant space

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Emerald Dog Poop Home

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: smoky embarrassed to the bone boiling water gas station

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: comical national

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Emerald Dog Poop Home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Disturbing Razzmatazz Codepig

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: azure vibrant space

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Well-lubricated contagious hall faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Emerald Dog Poop Home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: startling effete potus

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: comical national

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: ocher massive private investor

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: smoky embarrassed to the bone boiling water gas station

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Trip Indecent Library

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: duck-like fanboi degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: smoky embarrassed to the bone boiling water gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053817)