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Free Apple TV free Apple Music Since I’ve already ...
Magical stock car
  10/31/25
Good goy
Adulterous Submissive Death Wish Hunting Ground
  10/31/25
I have 1.1 million points
Magical stock car
  10/31/25
That’s $15k of travel
buff marvelous market nibblets
  11/01/25
Also credit cards are 180 I get a lot more from Chase than I...
Magical stock car
  10/31/25
They are 180
buff marvelous market nibblets
  11/01/25
...
Pearl fragrant famous landscape painting state
  11/01/25
nice... I'll check that out. I've got about 2 million poi...
twisted piazza main people
  10/31/25
how to spend? what is best deal? just convert to miles? i ha...
high-end private investor
  10/31/25
Well, you get the best redemption value by converting them t...
twisted piazza main people
  10/31/25
Wow. Impressive, I don’t have any points and I’v...
Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard
  10/31/25
Do you not use a credit card for your daily life
Magical stock car
  10/31/25
I have 8 credit cards man
Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard
  10/31/25
I don’t even have the United app on my phone. lol.
Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard
  10/31/25
how do u change seat
high-end private investor
  11/01/25
Never tried
Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard
  11/01/25
Jesus H Christ
Galvanic lemon friendly grandma
  11/01/25
Southwest is way too inconvenient to fly for me. They’...
Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard
  10/31/25
I like some of the IHG branded hotels, like Holiday Inn, but...
Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard
  10/31/25
I enjoy kimptons They all have a happy hour and I drink l...
Magical stock car
  10/31/25
Never been to a Kimptons
Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard
  11/01/25
Kimptons are famously dog friendly and have a chic lite atmo...
bistre trailer park sneaky criminal
  11/01/25
I fucking hate dogs.
Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard
  11/01/25
you need to get raped with a baseball bat
heady lime jew genital piercing
  11/01/25
Ok, then feel free to jump off a really tall bridge.
Galvanic lemon friendly grandma
  11/02/25
I know. If all your shitty qualities this is among the worst
bistre trailer park sneaky criminal
  11/02/25
Kimptons generally have great restaurants and are always in ...
Galvanic lemon friendly grandma
  11/02/25
That's why I stayed at Marriott properties only when I trave...
Pearl fragrant famous landscape painting state
  11/01/25
This
buff marvelous market nibblets
  11/01/25
Idk, I've stayed at some very good Marriott properties. The...
Galvanic lemon friendly grandma
  11/01/25
Courtyard in downtown Rochester NY is top shelf. You can ord...
Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard
  11/01/25
That's what I do when I visit my home office. It is cheap i...
Galvanic lemon friendly grandma
  11/01/25
IHG has a few really good brands but they're Kimpton and Int...
Galvanic lemon friendly grandma
  11/01/25
How is that possible? I travel about once a month (domestic...
Galvanic lemon friendly grandma
  11/01/25
Amex platinum is better imo
beta bateful bbw
  10/31/25
Agreed.. I have both Amex platinums and CSR and barely use t...
nudist stirring internal respiration
  11/01/25
i have both but i put more spending on the chase card. more ...
boyish pungent nursing home
  11/01/25
Then why do both?
buff marvelous market nibblets
  11/01/25
Perks from the amex card pay for itself
boyish pungent nursing home
  11/01/25
other than the (rather crowded) airport lounges, what perks ...
buff marvelous market nibblets
  11/01/25
they offer similar perks, but i get enough value from the ca...
boyish pungent nursing home
  11/01/25
so $1200 in fees / $14-1600 in benefits. So net $2-300?
buff marvelous market nibblets
  11/02/25
Idk there are other benefits i use too that I prob wouldn't ...
boyish pungent nursing home
  11/02/25
sounds like you're marginally ahead with Amex card. Chase is...
buff marvelous market nibblets
  11/02/25
Most of my spend goes on the csr, the points are indeed bet...
boyish pungent nursing home
  11/02/25
Are you paying 2700/year in fees? Just pick one
bistre trailer park sneaky criminal
  11/01/25
...
Galvanic lemon friendly grandma
  11/01/25
...
Magical stock car
  11/01/25
i'm actually kind of pissed about the new benefits because i...
Citrine Diverse Rehab Mother
  11/01/25
what new benefit is best?
high-end private investor
  11/01/25
For me, it's the $300 stubhub credit. For travel shrews, ...
Citrine Diverse Rehab Mother
  11/03/25
How do you guys get so many points? I only have like 800k
Scarlet Windowlicker
  11/01/25
This seems worse than the Amex Plat which gives you "fr...
tripping dashing tanning salon dopamine
  11/01/25
Both Amex Platinum and CSR seem shitty to me. You're better...
Galvanic lemon friendly grandma
  11/01/25
Apple TV is a hidden gem imo. Foundation, silo, for all man...
doobsian athletic conference toilet seat
  11/01/25
this
buff marvelous market nibblets
  11/01/25
THE THINKING MAN'S GOYSLOP!
drunken ticket booth
  11/01/25
hehe
Apoplectic new version
  11/01/25
but let's address the real question- which one gives you BON...
buff marvelous market nibblets
  11/03/25
...
mind-boggling sadistic fortuitous meteor
  11/03/25
The top tier Amex Brilliant gives you BONVOY PLATINUM ELITE ...
Galvanic lemon friendly grandma
  11/03/25
how much is that per year? $1400?
buff marvelous market nibblets
  11/03/25
$650, and you get $300 in restaurant credit which is a no-br...
Galvanic lemon friendly grandma
  11/03/25
The devaluation of the travel points from 1.5x to 1.25x is d...
low-t people who are hurt
  11/03/25
Agreed. That was an easy way to get positive value from the ...
alcoholic adventurous base
  11/03/25


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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: Magical stock car

Free Apple TV

free Apple Music

Since I’ve already spent $75k this year I get free $500 southwest airline credit, free $250 the shops at chase credit, free southwest a list. IHG Hotels diamond elite status.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49391717)



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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:36 PM
Author: Adulterous Submissive Death Wish Hunting Ground

Good goy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49391719)



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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: Magical stock car

I have 1.1 million points

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49391721)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 1:52 PM
Author: buff marvelous market nibblets

That’s $15k of travel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49392933)



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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: Magical stock car

Also credit cards are 180 I get a lot more from Chase than I give them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49391725)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 1:56 PM
Author: buff marvelous market nibblets

They are 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49392947)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 1:40 PM
Author: Pearl fragrant famous landscape painting state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49392903)



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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:37 PM
Author: twisted piazza main people

nice... I'll check that out.

I've got about 2 million points and need to spend them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49391720)



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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:44 PM
Author: high-end private investor

how to spend? what is best deal? just convert to miles? i have 300k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49391731)



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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: twisted piazza main people

Well, you get the best redemption value by converting them to travel/hotel partners and use them for business class and 4-5 star hotels. I'm frugal so I just use them for economy class flights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49391740)



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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard

Wow. Impressive, I don’t have any points and I’ve never redeemed anything for anything anywhere. I must have been on 200 united flights. Still not silver tier or anything. 100,000 lifetime flight miles. Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49391726)



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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: Magical stock car

Do you not use a credit card for your daily life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49391727)



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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:43 PM
Author: Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard

I have 8 credit cards man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49391729)



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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:44 PM
Author: Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard

I don’t even have the United app on my phone. lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49391730)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: high-end private investor

how do u change seat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393095)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard

Never tried

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393098)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 5:11 PM
Author: Galvanic lemon friendly grandma

Jesus H Christ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393492)



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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:44 PM
Author: Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard

Southwest is way too inconvenient to fly for me. They’d have to be like $500 cheaper for me to even consider.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49391732)



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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard

I like some of the IHG branded hotels, like Holiday Inn, but Hyatt offers a better experience.

When traveling for business I find something in the Marriott line because I really enjoy how sterile and purposefully unoffending their properties are. It makes me feel cheap and expendable which I am. Good reminder. Like a sharp kick to the balls.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49391736)



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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Magical stock car

I enjoy kimptons

They all have a happy hour and I drink like 4 glasses of wine during them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49391744)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 1:40 PM
Author: Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard

Never been to a Kimptons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49392902)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: bistre trailer park sneaky criminal

Kimptons are famously dog friendly and have a chic lite atmosphere. Not your scene

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393143)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 3:21 PM
Author: Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard

I fucking hate dogs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393157)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: heady lime jew genital piercing

you need to get raped with a baseball bat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393252)



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Date: November 2nd, 2025 1:56 AM
Author: Galvanic lemon friendly grandma

Ok, then feel free to jump off a really tall bridge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49394496)



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Date: November 2nd, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: bistre trailer park sneaky criminal

I know. If all your shitty qualities this is among the worst

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49395966)



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Date: November 2nd, 2025 7:20 PM
Author: Galvanic lemon friendly grandma

Kimptons generally have great restaurants and are always in cool locations. Service is always top notch and if you're IHG diamond you often get good upgrades (Marriott pretty much never gives you spontaneous upgrades for being Platinum elite). However, Marriott will give you 4pm late checkout consistently which is priceless for business travel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49396309)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 1:42 PM
Author: Pearl fragrant famous landscape painting state

That's why I stayed at Marriott properties only when I traveled. I've seen hundreds of paintings, drawings, lithographs, etc. of every combination of fruit you can imagine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49392914)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 1:53 PM
Author: buff marvelous market nibblets

This

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49392938)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 5:17 PM
Author: Galvanic lemon friendly grandma

Idk, I've stayed at some very good Marriott properties. The Residence Inn in Richmond, VA gives you basically a nice apartment if you get the corner suite and is in a great location downtown.

Some of the Marriotts in the DC area are also great. Obviously, you don't go to a Courtyard and expect it to rival an Intercontinental or Kimpton.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393508)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 5:27 PM
Author: Emerald contagious property haunted graveyard

Courtyard in downtown Rochester NY is top shelf. You can order yourself a garbage plate on door dash and dine in comfort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393532)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Galvanic lemon friendly grandma

That's what I do when I visit my home office. It is cheap in points so it costs me nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393537)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 5:14 PM
Author: Galvanic lemon friendly grandma

IHG has a few really good brands but they're Kimpton and Intercontinental. Kimpton is my go to for personal travel (I always bring my huge dog and they have no pet restrictions and they're generally a 4 star hotel).

The only impressive Holiday Inns seem to be abroad (some in Mexico are hilariously nice and have room service and shit).

Also, the IHG top tier CC is very cheap and gives you Platinum status ($40k gets you Diamond), plus accumulates points rapidly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393503)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 5:11 PM
Author: Galvanic lemon friendly grandma

How is that possible? I travel about once a month (domestic, not international) + have the United Club CC and I'm Gold (just met the renewal criteria for another year last month).

I'm constantly paying for hotel stays with points.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393490)



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Date: October 31st, 2025 8:46 PM
Author: beta bateful bbw

Amex platinum is better imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49391735)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 1:28 AM
Author: nudist stirring internal respiration

Agreed.. I have both Amex platinums and CSR and barely use the last one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49392077)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 1:56 PM
Author: boyish pungent nursing home

i have both but i put more spending on the chase card. more chance for bonus points and the redemptions rates are generally better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49392949)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 4:33 PM
Author: buff marvelous market nibblets

Then why do both?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393343)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 4:56 PM
Author: boyish pungent nursing home

Perks from the amex card pay for itself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393419)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: buff marvelous market nibblets

other than the (rather crowded) airport lounges, what perks does amex offer than chase does not?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393426)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 7:48 PM
Author: boyish pungent nursing home

they offer similar perks, but i get enough value from the card to make it worth it. $400 restaurant credit i'd spend anyway. $600 hotel credit id spend anyway and the perks at fhr properties are incredible. $200 uber i'd spend anyway. $200 airline credit can just buy $ to put in united account bank. $300 digital entertainment credit i'd spend anyway. it pays for itself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393757)



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Date: November 2nd, 2025 8:58 AM
Author: buff marvelous market nibblets

so $1200 in fees / $14-1600 in benefits. So net $2-300?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49394822)



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Date: November 2nd, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: boyish pungent nursing home

Idk there are other benefits i use too that I prob wouldn't of i didn't have the credit, like $300 Lululemon. That's worth nonzero but less than full price. And the points are worth 0.01 each and I prob get 50-75,000 or a year. Point is, I'm way ahead with the card

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49394936)



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Date: November 2nd, 2025 4:28 PM
Author: buff marvelous market nibblets

sounds like you're marginally ahead with Amex card. Chase is a clear win given that points convert to travel $ at 0.015

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49395877)



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Date: November 2nd, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: boyish pungent nursing home

Most of my spend goes on the csr, the points are indeed better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49395961)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 3:16 PM
Author: bistre trailer park sneaky criminal

Are you paying 2700/year in fees? Just pick one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393145)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 4:35 PM
Author: Galvanic lemon friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393354)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 12:27 AM
Author: Magical stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49392028)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 3:04 PM
Author: Citrine Diverse Rehab Mother

i'm actually kind of pissed about the new benefits because it's going to force me to keep the card and swallow their fee increase like a chump.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393125)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: high-end private investor

what new benefit is best?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393288)



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Date: November 3rd, 2025 10:24 AM
Author: Citrine Diverse Rehab Mother

For me, it's the $300 stubhub credit.

For travel shrews, it's probably the increased points on shit booked thru the Chase portal, the $300 dining credits/table reservations, and $500 hotel credits for their fancy hotels.

For sweatpants gfs, it's the Apple+, Peloton, Doordash credits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49397437)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 3:54 PM
Author: Scarlet Windowlicker

How do you guys get so many points? I only have like 800k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393243)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 3:57 PM
Author: tripping dashing tanning salon dopamine

This seems worse than the Amex Plat which gives you "free" Disney+/Hulu/ESPN and some other digital credits, plus all the travel crap.

Apple TV is straight trash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393247)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 4:36 PM
Author: Galvanic lemon friendly grandma

Both Amex Platinum and CSR seem shitty to me. You're better off picking a top shelf airline card and a top shelf hotel card and using those. I am probably getting Chase Sapphire Preferred so that I can transfer my 50k chase points into United miles when they run another 100k point intro bonus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393358)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 4:38 PM
Author: doobsian athletic conference toilet seat

Apple TV is a hidden gem imo. Foundation, silo, for all mankind- all were 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393363)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: buff marvelous market nibblets

this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393427)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 6:02 PM
Author: drunken ticket booth

THE THINKING MAN'S GOYSLOP!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393587)



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Date: November 1st, 2025 5:14 PM
Author: Apoplectic new version

hehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49393499)



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Date: November 3rd, 2025 6:06 AM
Author: buff marvelous market nibblets

but let's address the real question- which one gives you BONVOY GOLD ELITE status?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49397066)



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Date: November 3rd, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: mind-boggling sadistic fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49397440)



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Date: November 3rd, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: Galvanic lemon friendly grandma

The top tier Amex Brilliant gives you BONVOY PLATINUM ELITE status!!!1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49398195)



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Date: November 3rd, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: buff marvelous market nibblets

how much is that per year? $1400?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49398327)



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Date: November 3rd, 2025 5:17 PM
Author: Galvanic lemon friendly grandma

$650, and you get $300 in restaurant credit which is a no-brainer. And you do get Priority Pass lounge access plus a free night up to 85k points. Pretty easy to come out ahead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49398764)



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Date: November 3rd, 2025 5:19 PM
Author: low-t people who are hurt

The devaluation of the travel points from 1.5x to 1.25x is devastating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49398772)



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Date: November 3rd, 2025 5:38 PM
Author: alcoholic adventurous base

Agreed. That was an easy way to get positive value from the points without feeling like a weirdo spending 4 hours reading blogs about how to maximize value. Transferring to Hyatt seems to be universally regarded as a good use of Chase UR points. I just did this and got about 3.5 cents per point for a peak holiday weekend stay at a level 6.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5792182&forum_id=2:#49398836)