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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Onyx scourge upon the earth generalized bond
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
motley nibblets
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
motley nibblets
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Slap-happy Bipolar Theater Stage
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Light Massive Location
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
umber elastic band station
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
cocky cruise ship
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
excitant hell
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
excitant hell
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
excitant hell
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Bat-shit-crazy hyperventilating stage
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Mildly autistic galvanic parlor
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Transparent Floppy School Volcanic Crater
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
umber elastic band station
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Onyx scourge upon the earth generalized bond
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
arrogant tan corner
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Dead turdskin
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Canary Shrine
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Onyx scourge upon the earth generalized bond
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Talented spruce stage
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter
  06/26/25
...
Brass mother chapel
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
vigorous insane tanning salon partner
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Concupiscible half-breed death wish
  06/26/25
...
Pontificating Son Of Senegal House
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Racy erotic pit
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Razzmatazz keepsake machete
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Slimy mexican nursing home
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Razzmatazz keepsake machete
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
umber elastic band station
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
cocky cruise ship
  06/27/25
...
Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Grizzly Brethren
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Razzmatazz keepsake machete
  06/27/25
...
Alcoholic greedy windowlicker patrolman
  06/27/25
...
Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Slimy mexican nursing home
  06/27/25
How is STB?
cocky cruise ship
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
maroon coffee pot
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
umber elastic band station
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
vigorous insane tanning salon partner
  06/27/25
...
dashing navy abode
  06/27/25
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umber elastic band station
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Onyx scourge upon the earth generalized bond

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: motley nibblets

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: motley nibblets

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Slap-happy Bipolar Theater Stage

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Light Massive Location

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: umber elastic band station

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: cocky cruise ship

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: excitant hell

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: excitant hell

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: excitant hell

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy hyperventilating stage

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Mildly autistic galvanic parlor

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Transparent Floppy School Volcanic Crater

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: umber elastic band station

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Onyx scourge upon the earth generalized bond

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: arrogant tan corner

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Dead turdskin

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Canary Shrine

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Onyx scourge upon the earth generalized bond

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Talented spruce stage

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Brass mother chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: vigorous insane tanning salon partner

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Concupiscible half-breed death wish

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Pontificating Son Of Senegal House



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Racy erotic pit

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Razzmatazz keepsake machete

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Slimy mexican nursing home

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Razzmatazz keepsake machete

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: umber elastic band station

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: cocky cruise ship

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Grizzly Brethren

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Razzmatazz keepsake machete

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Alcoholic greedy windowlicker patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Passionate alcoholic faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Slimy mexican nursing home

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: cocky cruise ship

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: maroon coffee pot

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: umber elastic band station

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: vigorous insane tanning salon partner

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: dashing navy abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: umber elastic band station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2:#49053817)