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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
soul-stirring field toilet seat
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180
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they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
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much more than that
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But also some negative consequences
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Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
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Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
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why who is he?
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Lol sup ballmer
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cr he blows
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Cleveland *Indians*
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indians, cleveland
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im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
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Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
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i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
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is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
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A year? Yeah.
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why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
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the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Clear ape jew
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wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
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import the third world, become the third world
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what retards, risking their careers for $5k
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*destroying
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How do you calculate $5k
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thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
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That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
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Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
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ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
soul-stirring field toilet seat
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Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
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How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
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Jews maf
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it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
Odious lavender milk
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probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
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but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
Odious lavender milk
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seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
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what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
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Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
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Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
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there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
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the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
irradiated sandwich
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i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
Submissive mahogany shrine
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solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
soul-stirring field toilet seat
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here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
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lol
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Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
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that is fucking hilarious.
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was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
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its real, clearly a major league reference
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anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
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I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: soul-stirring field toilet seat

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: impressive splenetic stage

180

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: soul-stirring field toilet seat

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: thriller native coldplay fan

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Hairraiser orchestra pit corn cake

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: heady nubile market

But also some negative consequences

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Kink-friendly Aromatic Travel Guidebook Lodge



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: impressive splenetic stage

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Jet-lagged aggressive school cafeteria

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle reading party stage



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: soul-stirring field toilet seat

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: fluffy red scourge upon the earth

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: impressive splenetic stage



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: snowy piazza



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Sticky Exhilarant Liquid Oxygen

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: ocher library



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: slippery church famous landscape painting

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: orange brunch

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Odious lavender milk

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: soul-stirring field toilet seat

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Odious lavender milk

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: 180 casino candlestick maker

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: smoky charismatic generalized bond

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Submissive mahogany shrine

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Clear ape jew

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: orange brunch

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: 180 casino candlestick maker

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Sticky Exhilarant Liquid Oxygen

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: soul-stirring field toilet seat

*destroying

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: thriller native coldplay fan

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Sticky Exhilarant Liquid Oxygen

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: thriller native coldplay fan

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Appetizing fanboi national security agency

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: soul-stirring field toilet seat

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Frisky disturbing lettuce

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: soul-stirring field toilet seat

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: 180 casino candlestick maker

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Odious lavender milk

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: soul-stirring field toilet seat

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Odious lavender milk

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Sticky Exhilarant Liquid Oxygen

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Submissive mahogany shrine

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Frisky disturbing lettuce

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: irradiated sandwich

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: soul-stirring field toilet seat

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: irradiated sandwich

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Submissive mahogany shrine

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: soul-stirring field toilet seat

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: soul-stirring field toilet seat

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: irradiated sandwich

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: high-end honey-headed old irish cottage

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: 180 casino candlestick maker



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: amber electric furnace indirect expression

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: orange brunch

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Sticky Exhilarant Liquid Oxygen

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Clear ape jew

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Frisky disturbing lettuce

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Kink-friendly Aromatic Travel Guidebook Lodge



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: soul-stirring field toilet seat

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: 180 casino candlestick maker



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Fuchsia elite space

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Ruddy Trust Fund

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Appetizing fanboi national security agency

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2:#49416774)