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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
Turquoise range
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
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  06/15/18
As I understand it.
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Echoes of Wisdom
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
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260k is a huge salary
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Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
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  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
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  02/12/21
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  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
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For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
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  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
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yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
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  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
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  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
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  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
Turquoise range
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
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  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
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  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
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i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
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  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
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No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
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  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
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  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
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  02/12/21
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  02/12/21
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: Turquoise range

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Clear Medicated Background Story Sneaky Criminal

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: fluffy doctorate stage

As I understand it.

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: gay abusive library bbw

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: Racy party of the first part

oh we got a legal expert here

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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: Turquoise range



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Internet-worthy Umber Masturbator Roommate

they have no debt as I understand it

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Internet-worthy Umber Masturbator Roommate

260k is a huge salary

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: adventurous light double fault

goes a long way in shaker heights

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: learning disabled aphrodisiac rehab personal credit line

Cr. Thats city janitor money

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Irate church building

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: Brindle Boyish Menage Potus

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: motley red juggernaut location

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: gay abusive library bbw

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Internet-worthy Umber Masturbator Roommate

sounds 180

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Copper feces

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Soul-stirring lemon cuckoldry



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Soul-stirring lemon cuckoldry

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Soul-stirring lemon cuckoldry



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Turquoise range

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: Turquoise range



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: duck-like messiness therapy

omg 260k where do they get off

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Turquoise range

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: violet cumskin

p depressing news going into the weekend

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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: Turquoise range

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: violet cumskin

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Turquoise range

Explain

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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Turquoise range



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: bateful burgundy address



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: hot razzmatazz hairy legs

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: fragrant weed whacker gas station

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: Turquoise range



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: 180 embarrassed to the bone deer antler



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Soul-stirring lemon cuckoldry



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: Turquoise range



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: sickened passionate temple

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: Rusted Fear-inspiring Son Of Senegal Hissy Fit

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: Turquoise range

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: Supple rough-skinned market antidepressant drug

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Turquoise range

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: Supple rough-skinned market antidepressant drug

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: Turquoise range

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Nudist Half-breed

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: 180 embarrassed to the bone deer antler



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: sickened passionate temple

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Nudist Half-breed

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: Sinister Faggot Firefighter

Better partnership odds

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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Nudist Half-breed

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: Sinister Faggot Firefighter

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: Rusted Fear-inspiring Son Of Senegal Hissy Fit

(Stevie Brogan)

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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle set

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: Rose base

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: Turquoise range



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: Turquoise range



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: charismatic public bath headpube

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2:#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: Turquoise range



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