You're being fooled to think AI is smarter than people
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Date: May 15th, 2025 8:19 AM Author: aqua nursing home
It is way smarter than other machines
But it is way stupider than a human.
A machine trained on human text can't be smarter than the text. It can only be dumber.
They're tricking you to isolate and demoralize you
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Date: May 15th, 2025 12:32 PM Author: aqua nursing home
by trustworthy I don't mean someone or something is never deceitful. I mean that the structure of its intelligence is transparent to the laws of the system it sits in.
Every human being's intellect at least on average has fidelity to the physical laws it developed in, which has created an intelligence highly adapted to long-term survival.
The architecture of a language model is almost arbitrary. It's attempting to simulate the self-assembly of an organism, but its fidelity is constrained by limitations of its structure (x billion parameters). It's a top-down solution that can't replicate biological intelligence except in a totally unrealistic limit.
You're going to have to do some hand-waving at quantum computing to get around this.
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Date: May 17th, 2025 8:27 AM Author: jet library
This has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read--you have to be flame. If human cognition had any deep fidelity to physical law you wouldn't need telescopes, double-slit experiments or 700 page operator algebras just to explain the most basic spacetime behavior (and if you think the explanations we have are even a small fraction toward "complete" then LJL).
"but its fidelity is constrained by limitations of its structure (x billion parameters)."
and humans aren't constrained by the limitations of thermodynamics (which btw metabolism is thermodynamically optimized for survival not truth, where you seem to equate survival optimization with truth optimization), the structure of their perceptual and thinking organisms, and the wavelengths of information they can even process? Even the instruments humans make are just extensions of ape perception. Even if you use instruments to extend wavelength or whatever it still gets processed back through primate brain and monkey math.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725284&forum_id=2:#48938760)
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Date: May 17th, 2025 11:01 AM Author: aqua nursing home
I'm not just talking about cognition. I'm talking about all forms of the organism's interaction with the environment, almost all of which is not conscious.
Thermodynamics isn't a constraint, it is the structure of the entire reality.
Survival optimization is truth optimization.
You're mad
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Date: May 15th, 2025 9:55 AM Author: topaz theater stage
OP is cr but you're ignoring the fact that AI can be trained on all human knowledge in existence while no individual human can ever get close to this
so AI (in its current form as LLMs) could, theoretically, become vastly more intelligent than any individual human, and even vastly more intelligent than a bunch of humans. but not all humans put together
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