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ChatGPT is SPS for drafting legal documents, only useful for emails

Even after feeding it my appeal brief and asking to draft or...
Brindle Knife
  08/11/25
It is quite FAGGOT at doing any type of legal reasoning. ...
fragrant fishy half-breed
  08/11/25
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Mahogany beady-eyed library
  08/11/25
i finally bit the bullet and upgraded to paid GROK and it's ...
Mahogany beady-eyed library
  08/11/25
It has the reasoning ability but it makes too many random mi...
Brindle Knife
  08/11/25
exactly. it does an excellent job with isolated questions...
Mahogany beady-eyed library
  08/11/25
If you ask it to do anything beyond answer a simple question...
fragrant fishy half-breed
  08/11/25
so it's like a person
Crawly dog poop
  08/11/25
this also every time I use it I make sure to come in with...
Flickering Shrine
  08/11/25
yeah, it gives a good start to a lot of things. i have a ...
Mahogany beady-eyed library
  08/11/25
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fragrant fishy half-breed
  08/11/25
Like a brilliant associate who works for free but sometimes ...
Irate school people who are hurt
  08/11/25
a little prankster who likes to change just one cite out of ...
Mahogany beady-eyed library
  08/11/25
The judge will love this game!
Irate school people who are hurt
  08/11/25
My concern is it will give prole clients the illusion that t...
Brindle Knife
  08/11/25
they are already doing this - I deal with it all the time
Flickering Shrine
  08/11/25
This is a huge issue in my life
thriller cream athletic conference
  08/11/25
it's no different than proles coming to you, doctors, etc. w...
Mahogany beady-eyed library
  08/11/25
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fragrant fishy half-breed
  08/11/25
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thriller cream athletic conference
  08/11/25
You're telling me some gay dude didn't wipe out an entire pr...
Laughsome Buff Degenerate
  08/11/25
Case law is a major weakness for it right now. It is better ...
Multi-colored filthy sandwich
  08/11/25
recently i was interested in a speech issue and it hallucina...
Mahogany beady-eyed library
  08/11/25
I just let it write the arguments with fake cases and then s...
glassy curious public bath feces
  08/11/25
really need to break things into small chunks, boyos I cr...
black soggy heaven
  08/11/25


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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:11 PM
Author: Brindle Knife

Even after feeding it my appeal brief and asking to draft oral submissions, it produced a half-assed sps product and managed to mis-cite the cases included in the appeal brief. Hopefully by some stroke of luck is lawfags will be saved from AI, or at least be one of the last to get got

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175346)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:12 PM
Author: fragrant fishy half-breed

It is quite FAGGOT at doing any type of legal reasoning.

It's great at proofreading simple mistakes tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175350)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:14 PM
Author: Mahogany beady-eyed library



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: Mahogany beady-eyed library

i finally bit the bullet and upgraded to paid GROK and it's much better. it's less than useless for research and reasoning but does a great job with proofreading.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175360)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:21 PM
Author: Brindle Knife

It has the reasoning ability but it makes too many random mistakes and hallucinations to be reliable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175379)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:25 PM
Author: Mahogany beady-eyed library

exactly.

it does an excellent job with isolated questions. especially if you want it create arguments for or against something. it's good to plug in stuff and say "create the best argument against this."

but it sucks at writing an entire thing. and it winds up costing time because you have to go through and find out what it hallucinated or fucked up. works best when tackling bite-sized issues and you just plugging it in yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175398)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: fragrant fishy half-breed

If you ask it to do anything beyond answer a simple question it just completely hallucinates bullshit arguments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175410)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:33 PM
Author: Crawly dog poop

so it's like a person

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175429)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Flickering Shrine

this

also every time I use it I make sure to come in with all of my case and statute citations beforehand (which I always did when writing a motion etc). However, even when spoon feeding it these things, it tends to paraphrase them too much or even occasionally misinterpret them. I also carefully write out my own facts. But if you feed it your facts, your direct citations and tell it not to paraphrase them, then feed it a general outline of your arguments and sub arguments (and even tell it to come up with additional ones that it sees as necessary), its a good starting place IMO

Did this today with a fairly pain in the ass motion to compel that I need to start on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175412)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:39 PM
Author: Mahogany beady-eyed library

yeah, it gives a good start to a lot of things.

i have a session where i had to keep reinforcing *JUST DO GRAMMAR, SPELLING, ETC. DO NOT ALTER CONTENT* and it still fucked with shit sometimes. after a while it stopped.

it's like having an autistic paralegal. you can trust it to do some things really well but some things it will fuck up and you can never completely trust it. rainman, second year associate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175456)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:48 PM
Author: fragrant fishy half-breed



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Date: August 11th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: Irate school people who are hurt

Like a brilliant associate who works for free but sometimes shows up to court and starts cutting his thighs and smearing his own shit on the table

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175695)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Mahogany beady-eyed library

a little prankster who likes to change just one cite out of hundreds to a hallucination just to keep you on your toes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175700)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 4:56 PM
Author: Irate school people who are hurt

The judge will love this game!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175709)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:30 PM
Author: Brindle Knife

My concern is it will give prole clients the illusion that they can DIY, since it confidently spits out an ostensibly cogent output, even if it is riddled with errors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175415)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:35 PM
Author: Flickering Shrine

they are already doing this - I deal with it all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175437)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: thriller cream athletic conference

This is a huge issue in my life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175524)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: Mahogany beady-eyed library

it's no different than proles coming to you, doctors, etc. with google results. hell, they can go to reddit and get live human answers that are even more fucked up than AI. there's no solution to retards who hire a professional and then second guess them. just say "ok, good luck with that!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175443)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:48 PM
Author: fragrant fishy half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175493)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 3:59 PM
Author: thriller cream athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175526)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:04 PM
Author: Laughsome Buff Degenerate

You're telling me some gay dude didn't wipe out an entire profession with his weird deviant application of what was basically a search technology developed by Google? That's insane man no way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175744)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: Multi-colored filthy sandwich

Case law is a major weakness for it right now. It is better at contracts and statutory research, at least for non-obscure issues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175765)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: Mahogany beady-eyed library

recently i was interested in a speech issue and it hallucinated a bunch of SCOTUS precedent despite well know precedent existing.

it's great on black letter law which is why it's smashing the UBE. but don't expect it to find a case or summarize one faithfully.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175790)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: glassy curious public bath feces

I just let it write the arguments with fake cases and then swap in the real cases with a little tailoring. You need to know your own cases anyway so you can respond on your feet effectively in court.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175792)



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Date: August 11th, 2025 5:11 PM
Author: black soggy heaven

really need to break things into small chunks, boyos

I crafted the perfect resume recently and 2x'd my salary in under 3 weeks. Each resume section and subsection was a 500+ word prompt that got refined and perfected into the end product, and cross referenced against deep research reporting. Being lazy with AI is not the answer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5761174&forum_id=2:#49175775)