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Saving/investing for retirement is a scam

Every retired person I know doesn’t even live off of t...
Vibrant boltzmann pistol
  05/10/25
Thank you, I've been yelling this for years myself.
Mind-boggling rambunctious trailer park
  05/10/25
Even if you have just $1m in a 401k, if the plan administer ...
Vibrant boltzmann pistol
  05/10/25
What kind of TTT 401k takes that much
coral mediation mad cow disease
  05/10/25
Every worker plan I’ve ever been a part of takes betwe...
Vibrant boltzmann pistol
  05/10/25
It should be lower than that but most companies are dumb and...
Razzmatazz theatre haunted graveyard
  05/10/25
The reason it's a scam is because people are dumb. they con...
Razzmatazz theatre haunted graveyard
  05/10/25
you should retire in your 20s
Fighting preventive strike tank
  05/10/25
my friend who retired at 32 lives off of selling index funds...
Opaque At-the-ready Kitty Cat
  05/10/25
no shit, this is called judaism but also if u dont save f...
Floppy crystalline community account
  05/10/25
I would 100% trust your investment acumen over OP.
Magical black bawdyhouse
  05/10/25
I have been a much more successful investor than Tommy thoug...
Vibrant boltzmann pistol
  05/10/25
a gay retarded Islamic squirrel cld be a more successful inv...
Floppy crystalline community account
  05/10/25
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swollen orchid faggotry home
  05/10/25
Stop being retarded. Pensions don’t exist for us.
Comical hominid
  05/10/25
Explain. I don't like my job, and I make far more than I ca...
irradiated fiercely-loyal parlor
  05/10/25
If you don’t like your job then quit and go do somethi...
Vibrant boltzmann pistol
  05/10/25
You give terrible advice. No wonder you're miserable.
irradiated fiercely-loyal parlor
  05/10/25
My advice and lived experience is second to none.
Vibrant boltzmann pistol
  05/10/25
Your lived experience is being a fat miserable sack of shit!
irradiated fiercely-loyal parlor
  05/10/25
Why do you think you’re qualified to give people advic...
flesh address
  05/10/25
You’re supposed to do that to give it to your kids
sable apoplectic jew
  05/10/25
Especially when we’re forced to inflate it away. Hard...
Lilac legend roast beef
  05/10/25


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Date: May 10th, 2025 2:27 PM
Author: Vibrant boltzmann pistol

Every retired person I know doesn’t even live off of their retirement investments. They live off an amalgamation of income streams: social security, pension, an annuity or two, rental property, part time work.

Yelling at people to save all their money for retirement is a scam perpetuated by wealth advisors and financial planners so they can have a job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919694)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Mind-boggling rambunctious trailer park

Thank you, I've been yelling this for years myself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919696)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Vibrant boltzmann pistol

Even if you have just $1m in a 401k, if the plan administer is skimming 0.5% that’s $5k a year! Retirement is an industry like other professional services, but more scammy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919736)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: coral mediation mad cow disease

What kind of TTT 401k takes that much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919746)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Vibrant boltzmann pistol

Every worker plan I’ve ever been a part of takes between 0.3-1% per year regardless of what funds you choose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919749)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Razzmatazz theatre haunted graveyard

It should be lower than that but most companies are dumb and easily preyed on. Still better than buying VTI in your schwab account bc of the tax benefit imho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919753)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 2:51 PM
Author: Razzmatazz theatre haunted graveyard

The reason it's a scam is because people are dumb. they contribute the minimum to get a match and/or they move money around at terrible times.

people shouldn't have the freedom to buy $80,000k pickup trucks while contributing like 4% of base pay to a 401k. By doing this they cause Car prices to inflate while the portfolio accounts of Losers have worse returns ceteris paribus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919752)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Fighting preventive strike tank

you should retire in your 20s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919747)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Opaque At-the-ready Kitty Cat

my friend who retired at 32 lives off of selling index funds every few months

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919748)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Floppy crystalline community account

no shit, this is called judaism

but also if u dont save for retirement and u just live off CC debt and payday loans thats also called judaism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919756)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Magical black bawdyhouse

I would 100% trust your investment acumen over OP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919773)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 3:11 PM
Author: Vibrant boltzmann pistol

I have been a much more successful investor than Tommy though, if returns are the measure of success.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919777)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 3:17 PM
Author: Floppy crystalline community account

a gay retarded Islamic squirrel cld be a more successful investor than me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919790)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 3:48 PM
Author: swollen orchid faggotry home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919840)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 3:11 PM
Author: Comical hominid

Stop being retarded. Pensions don’t exist for us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919778)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 3:12 PM
Author: irradiated fiercely-loyal parlor

Explain. I don't like my job, and I make far more than I can reasonably spend. Why not save so I can stop working?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919783)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: Vibrant boltzmann pistol

If you don’t like your job then quit and go do something else. Saving up your money and investing is fine for building wealth, but it’s not required to leave your job or do something different with your life.

I think the idea that you can save and attain this magical number where you feel perfectly secure is flat out unlikely for most people. In this way, saving and investing for retirement isn’t likely to lead you to a secure early retirement.

Second, the people that I actually know, when they get old, tend to view money not so much as a source of opportunity but just as a resource that’s there and most don’t even spend down their retirement savings because they learn to live on their income. And if they do, they’re just buying dumb shit. “Oh let me fix up everything possible on my house, oh let me buy a new car, oh let me do this, that.”

It’s all so very stupid, just live the life you were put here to live. Don’t turn into an old feeble spendthrift filled with regret.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919813)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: irradiated fiercely-loyal parlor

You give terrible advice. No wonder you're miserable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919830)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 3:45 PM
Author: Vibrant boltzmann pistol

My advice and lived experience is second to none.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919833)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 3:47 PM
Author: irradiated fiercely-loyal parlor

Your lived experience is being a fat miserable sack of shit!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919838)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: flesh address

Why do you think you’re qualified to give people advice when you’re one of the most miserable faggots here? Please stop typing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919831)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 3:19 PM
Author: sable apoplectic jew

You’re supposed to do that to give it to your kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48919793)



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Date: May 10th, 2025 7:59 PM
Author: Lilac legend roast beef

Especially when we’re forced to inflate it away. Hard assets only.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5723215&forum_id=2:#48920332)