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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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chocolate reading party
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
pearly stirring police squad
  12/16/25
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chocolate reading party
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Clear Razzmatazz Factory Reset Button Orchestra Pit
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
pearly stirring police squad
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Clear Razzmatazz Factory Reset Button Orchestra Pit
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
pearly stirring police squad
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Clear Razzmatazz Factory Reset Button Orchestra Pit
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
chocolate reading party
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
pearly stirring police squad
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Clear Razzmatazz Factory Reset Button Orchestra Pit
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
pearly stirring police squad
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Clear Razzmatazz Factory Reset Button Orchestra Pit
  12/17/25
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chocolate reading party
  12/17/25
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pearly stirring police squad
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
fluffy supple theater stage wagecucks
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
pearly stirring police squad
  12/16/25
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fluffy supple theater stage wagecucks
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
transparent kitchen
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
pearly stirring police squad
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
brilliant yarmulke market
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
pearly stirring police squad
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Poppy native
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pearly stirring police squad
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chocolate reading party
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Multi-colored unhinged jewess
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
cyan chad
  12/17/25
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pearly stirring police squad
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Multi-colored unhinged jewess
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chocolate reading party
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chocolate reading party
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Clear Razzmatazz Factory Reset Button Orchestra Pit
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Brass becky
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: chocolate reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515456)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: pearly stirring police squad

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: chocolate reading party

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Clear Razzmatazz Factory Reset Button Orchestra Pit

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: pearly stirring police squad

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Clear Razzmatazz Factory Reset Button Orchestra Pit

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: pearly stirring police squad

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Clear Razzmatazz Factory Reset Button Orchestra Pit

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: chocolate reading party

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: pearly stirring police squad

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Clear Razzmatazz Factory Reset Button Orchestra Pit

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: pearly stirring police squad

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Clear Razzmatazz Factory Reset Button Orchestra Pit

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: chocolate reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: pearly stirring police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: fluffy supple theater stage wagecucks

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: pearly stirring police squad

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: fluffy supple theater stage wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516177)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: transparent kitchen

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: pearly stirring police squad

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: brilliant yarmulke market

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: pearly stirring police squad

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Poppy native

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: pearly stirring police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515735)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: chocolate reading party



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Multi-colored unhinged jewess

i love scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515767)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: cyan chad

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: pearly stirring police squad



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Multi-colored unhinged jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516560)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: chocolate reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516683)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Clear Razzmatazz Factory Reset Button Orchestra Pit

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Brass becky

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2:#49515738)