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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:41 PM Author: Disturbing Rigpig Macaca I can bump this thread after closing arguments, but the State’s presented the key elements of its case at this point, and the Defense is not likely to call a surprise witness that turns the whole trial upside down. Factoring in everything you know about the trial, the judge, the jury, etc. do you think Trump will be convicted? If you’re predicting a hung jury then you’re predicting that no he won’t be convicted.
I’ll start: I think he’s toast. Stormy Daniels did way better than she should have and Blanche fucked up today by getting too far in the gutter with the witness and making things personal to himself. The jury sees the prosecutors as the more competent side, and the State’s case is made by documents and recordings that prove Trump’s version of the events is bullshit and gives the jury permission to look past both Cohen and Stormy’s obvious bias. I know all of you cons watching Fox News coverage think that Blanche is a genius and he’s been dominating the trial, but in reality he’s been pretty bad and based on his opening I highly doubt he’s capable of some amazing closing to save the day. |
Date: May 14th, 2024 8:44 PM Author: Jade Self-centered Half-breed can you bump this thread after closing args? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662071) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:49 PM Author: Disturbing Rigpig Macaca For you, yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662080) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 8:57 PM Author: Ocher spot trust fund Just STFU and post under one account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662096) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:01 PM Author: Mint National Security Agency Main People hung jury (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662108) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:05 PM Author: Bronze Newt Principal's Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662116) |
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Date: May 21st, 2024 12:35 PM Author: Mint National Security Agency Main People hung jury with one holdout for conviction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47679889) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:14 PM Author: Lake out-of-control school cafeteria deer antler yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662138) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:14 PM Author: Violent tanning salon telephone No (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662141) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:16 PM Author: red boltzmann Hung jury or acquit. No convict. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662144) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:25 PM Author: 180 puppy Date: May 14th, 2024 9:16 PM Author: le complot juif(hatp)
Hung jury or acquit. No convict. |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:16 PM Author: milky step-uncle's house No. I have hope even the shitlib MFH jury will see what absolute bullshit this is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662145) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:18 PM Author: red boltzmann They took way more time to select this jury than they did for the civil trial. You have to think they did some serious due diligence for the first ever criminal trial of a US President. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662155) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:51 PM Author: Vigorous Crotch Are the prosecutors non-white? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662365) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:20 PM Author: Sinister kitchen Trump should be banished to an island with only a pack of matches and a knife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662160) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:22 PM Author: red boltzmann But if he survives he should be allowed to return and immediately raise an army of his followers and be crowned Emperor like Napoleon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662162) |
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Date: May 21st, 2024 12:11 PM Author: Wonderful cordovan ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47679807) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:25 PM Author: 180 puppy easily (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662166) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 9:57 PM Author: Concupiscible mahogany site well he won't be acquitted. i lean toward hung jury but wont be surprised by a conviction. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662252) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:04 PM Author: red boltzmann Sad if convicted. Really sad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662268) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:24 PM Author: high-end quadroon cruise ship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662317) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:11 PM Author: Lascivious Pit Gaping Yes. He will rot in jail forever and get buttfucked by nigger trannies that are also ambiguously jewish. Also we will get rid of taxes and give all of the bonus money to shrill frumpy cunt women with desk jobs. And Israel will stop being a country but also no jews will die or be harmed in the process. Oh and more brown people. Brown people everywhere. Delivering "food". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662280) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:34 PM Author: Snowy cheese-eating party of the first part who knows? it's a kangaroo court, so anything is possible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662340) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:39 PM Author: painfully honest corner tattoo state the adornment on the edge of the flag in the courtroom before I engage you further (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662351) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:57 PM Author: vibrant olive halford Trump will be acquitted and reelected POTUS in November 2024. The shrieking and wailing of libs will be legendary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662391) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 11:28 PM Author: red boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662438) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 10:59 PM Author: copper plaza I’d be surprised by anything other than a hung jury.
At least one white woman on the jury was a yes to convict before the trial even started, regardless of any of the evidence. Most white women I know in NYC would blindly convict him of any crime. Can’t imagine he’s escaped having a single one of those on the jury.
And I imagine at least on other member will see this as complete BS of a process regardless of the facts.
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Date: May 14th, 2024 11:24 PM Author: high-end quadroon cruise ship Everyone always thinks there will be one reasonable person, but the libs pressure and scare those people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662434) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 12:56 AM Author: Medicated indigo incel rehab To be fair,
Anyone who holds out and causes a hung jury WILL be outted by the MSM and then hounded to death by insane and rabid shitlibs for the next year. |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 12:29 PM Author: high-end quadroon cruise ship If the one reasonable juror theory was true, Chauvin and the Amaud Abrery guys would be free. I am sure I am missing countless other political prisoners who got fucked over on similar circumstances. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47663588) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 12:30 PM Author: blathering therapy how were the arbery guys not in the wrong? maybe i didn't follow the case closely enough that i missed some facts, but it looks like they tracked the dood down and shot him without provocation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47663597) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 1:10 PM Author: high-end quadroon cruise ship It's been awhile, but I thought they were performing a lawful citizen's arrest and he resisted and attacked him and he was shot in self defense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47663783) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 4:26 PM Author: Abusive charismatic elastic band volcanic crater they (including one of them who was an investigator for the local DA office or something), after a string of thefts in their neighborhood, got a call about a guy who had been snooping around a work site. It just so happened that this guy was also known by local police as "the jogger" who had a history of theft in local businesses etc and IIRC attacking a cop. These guys, suspecting that he was up to no good, arrived to find him running. In their fatal mistake, they tried to citizen arrest him at gunpoint and wait for the cops to get there, but Arbery literally ran at the pickup truck from what appears to be dozens of feet away and tried to fight an armed dude they shot him.
I think even the guy filming this video had jail time |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 4:33 PM Author: red boltzmann The guy who filmed it got a 35 year federal sentence ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47664624) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 4:49 PM Author: high-end quadroon cruise ship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47664709) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 8:13 PM Author: milky step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47665388) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 8:18 PM Author: milky step-uncle's house the summer of floyd is when i official lost all faith in the msm and my default assumption became "how am i being lied to?" on every story.
first reaction to floyd -- hey, he's sitting on the dudes neck! people are shouting at him to stop! seems like clear police brut... oh wait, he was chimping out hard and it turns out this was a restraint taught to police.
first reaction to arbery -- woah, he was just jogging through the neighborhood? that seems like a pretty clear case of... oh wait, he not only lunged at the gun and forced them into a kill or be killed situation, but also wasn't jogging at all and was a known thief. |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 12:57 AM Author: Indecent mexican Obviously not of anything seriouses its all political motivated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662567) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 12:58 AM Author: canary hyperventilating love of her life hospital i guess i'll say no because hung jury far more likely he gets convicted than outright acquitted |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 1:01 AM Author: Medicated indigo incel rehab To be fair,
In a just world, acquitted.
In the real world, hung jury. |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 1:04 AM Author: Irate Curious Space Date: May 15th, 2024 1:01 AM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)
To be fair, In a just world, acquitted.
In the real world, hung jury. |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 4:20 PM Author: milky step-uncle's house as far as i know tbf has never blanked a poast in shame. and you always know what poasts are his because of his trademark. so quoting him here, especially for such a common opinion, seems lame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47664586) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 1:12 AM Author: pearl abnormal indian lodge no. i think people will look at him more kindly than a 45yo whore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47662582) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 4:06 PM Author: razzmatazz lay stain Yes, New York jury (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47664531) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 4:07 PM Author: Opaque dead field No idea
Garbage show trial case with no basis but it’s in nyc |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 4:33 PM Author: Disturbing Rigpig Macaca Interesting responses but seems like I’m alone thinking Blanche has mostly sucked. Or maybe you guys aren’t actually following the testimony at all and are just reading takes and repeating the cons’ side talking points. Anyway dude sucks, and I definitely think Bove was better with Pecker and probably should’ve done the Cohen cross as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47664626) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 4:39 PM Author: Concupiscible mahogany site hard to tell without the video but from the write-ups i've been following, blanche i agree has sucked, bove has been better and necheles did a good job with stormy. i don't think any of this really matters to my conclusion here. i assume the majority of the jurors had their mind made up to convict from day one. one or two may be persuadable, or may just be obstinate holdouts, and jury instructions may matter to whether those guys fold or we get a hung jury. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47664656) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 5:53 PM Author: Disturbing Rigpig Macaca Disagree vehemently re Necheles and Stormy. See eg https://www.newsnationnow.com/trump-investigation/new-york-judge-scolds-trump-attorney-over-not-objecting-to-stormy-daniels-testimony/amp/
She basically said “aren’t you a lying slut?” over and over and Stormy autism flared up a few times, but Stormy also got off some good one liners, and most importantly she got an account of the sexual encounter into the record that makes Blanche’s opening look retarded. |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 5:56 PM Author: Concupiscible mahogany site i know that's the msm spin but from what i read, she got her to admit she hates trump and brought attention to her constantly changing story and many attempts to cash in on her trump connection which raises serious doubts as to her credibility. i thought it was good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47664980) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 6:05 PM Author: Disturbing Rigpig Macaca Hmm that was the bare minimum I thought and they still let her get away with a bunch of sassy comebacks instead of making her answer yes or no. They presumably think that this is good somehow because they did the same thing with Cohen, but the cumulative effect is that they are getting in the gutter and name calling, and putting themselves on the same level as these sleazy liars. They didn’t even need to call her to prove how much her story changed and how much she was paid. Her goofball lawyer who helped her start all of this went to jail for being a slimey goomba greaseball. The issue is that in Blanche’s opening he said “all lies Trump never fucked that bitch” and then they let her get on the stand and go into graphic detail and failed to object and then during cross just assumed “isnt it true that you’re a slut and you lie a lot” was going to be enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47665013) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 9:09 PM Author: Concupiscible mahogany site dont think the sassy comebacks help tbf. helps the narrative that she's in it for the fame and money. doesnt help that she tried to bootstrap a #metoo narrative that never existed before, makes her seem dishonest. honestly, calls into question whether trump fucked her at all, which i never questioned previously. i didnt know before that he had paid a doorman for a fake story about a love child previously. defense cross of stormy was pretty effective in my view. but again, i dont think any of this makes a difference in the verdict. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47665523) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 4:50 PM Author: high-end quadroon cruise ship I am not following anything at all. Does the evidence and arguments really matter lol? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47664712) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 5:49 PM Author: Disturbing Rigpig Macaca The only thing that mattered was whether they made Stormy and Cohen look worse than Trump. The problem seems to be that Trump insisted on his version of the events, so his lawyers credibility was damaged right out of the gate. But I had hope that Blanche had some big cards left to play in his cross of Cohen and so far he appears to be flailing and full of shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47664956) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 6:01 PM Author: high-end quadroon cruise ship You are so naive. The only thing that matters is whether there is a secret Trumpmo with balls of steel or a death wish on that jury. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47664999) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 6:07 PM Author: Disturbing Rigpig Macaca Well of course, but the (admittedly slight) chance of a true NPC politics is none of my business juror voting to acquit is gone. And based on how much Trump has bitched about the jury it seems unlikely they think they have anyone like that on the panel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47665018) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 4:39 PM Author: Wonderful cordovan ticket booth yeah of course duh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47664659) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 5:51 PM Author: Glassy Blood Rage Trump is being tried for covering up a crime that the prosecution did not even try to articulate but sure, he could be convicted (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47664960) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 5:54 PM Author: Disturbing Rigpig Macaca It should be clear to all that the cons commentariat shifting their talking points to “the jury charge will save us” means the trial is going badly for Trump. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47664975) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 8:09 PM Author: Glassy Blood Rage Obviously if the Hofstra grad beaner judge tells them they don't actually have to believe Trump committed a crime to be guilty of covering up a crime that will probably make a difference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47665374) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 11:27 PM Author: Disturbing Rigpig Macaca It will go more like “federal election law prohibits in kind contributions. If you find that the Defendant obtained a benefit in his campaign for POTUS in 2016 because of the arrangement his company made with David Pecker and AMI, then this element of the crime is satisfied.” Will it get torn up on appeal? Maybe, but there are plenty of shitlibs in the NY courts who may just let their TDS take over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47665997) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 5:57 PM Author: exhilarant parlour pistol LMAO
this question used to be synonymous with “do you think the prosecution made its case to a fair minded jury of his peers?”
Now? flip a coin |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 9:11 PM Author: Flickering smoky hall He won't be convicted on anything that can withstand appeal. In a normal, non-NYC world, he should have a directed verdict in his favor as their is no evidence at all of his intent to commit any felony and it would be reversible error to let this go to a jury. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47665531) |
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Date: May 15th, 2024 9:14 PM Author: Concupiscible mahogany site that may be true but is completely irrelevant since the appeal wont be heard before the eelction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47665541) |
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Date: May 21st, 2024 11:56 AM Author: Disturbing Rigpig Macaca Round 2 now that the defense has rested, and I’m changing my pick after Cohen’s second and third days of testimony. I reverse jinxed Blanche out the ass. lol Cohen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47679762) |
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Date: May 21st, 2024 12:34 PM Author: Concupiscible mahogany site im leaning heavily toward hung jury now. cohen testimony was disastrous and this would be an acquittal in a normal case but we're in manhattan and you know some of the jurors are die hard convictmos no matter what. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47679886) |
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Date: May 21st, 2024 12:37 PM Author: Wonderful cordovan ticket booth I think they are going to convict notwithstanding Cohen's mishaps.
I'm basing this on the assumption that of the 20 or so other witnesses called by the prosecution, a sufficient number of them testified that Trump was aware of the payments and in fact took active steps to make the payments. |
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Date: May 21st, 2024 2:27 PM Author: Disturbing Rigpig Macaca I think it’s hard to get there without Cohen, which was always the weakness of the case. If they had flipped Weisselberg or something to that effect they could’ve mitigated the damage, but you have to believe a guy who is a congenital liar and cheater at his core. BRD just seems like a purely partisan conclusion at this point based on the case the prosscum put on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47680254) |
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Date: May 21st, 2024 2:30 PM Author: milky step-uncle's house no one is arguing that trump wasn't aware of the payments. the argument is that trump, with criminal intent, falsified these payments in furtherance of a second crime.
if trump wasn't even aware of the amounts paid it's hard to believe he was in the weeds directing precisely how they were recorded. |
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Date: May 21st, 2024 12:37 PM Author: Adventurous kitty cat I hoap he's convicted and goes to jail. It would show the world what a banana republic we've turned into and would be highly entertaining. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47679900) |
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Date: May 21st, 2024 1:00 PM Author: Wonderful cordovan ticket booth Gilding the Lilly at this point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47679982) |
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Date: May 21st, 2024 2:28 PM Author: talented station roast beef No - 🧐tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5528594&forum_id=2[/quote#47680256) |