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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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chest-beating cracking theater half-breed
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Mustard stead
  12/16/25
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chest-beating cracking theater half-breed
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
effete bateful double fault nursing home
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Mustard stead
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
effete bateful double fault nursing home
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Mustard stead
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
effete bateful double fault nursing home
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
chest-beating cracking theater half-breed
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Mustard stead
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
effete bateful double fault nursing home
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Mustard stead
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
effete bateful double fault nursing home
  12/17/25
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chest-beating cracking theater half-breed
  12/17/25
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Mustard stead
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
razzle-dazzle striped hyena house
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Mustard stead
  12/16/25
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razzle-dazzle striped hyena house
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Hairless Office
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Mustard stead
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
hyperactive becky
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Mustard stead
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
buff judgmental home sex offender
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Mustard stead
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chest-beating cracking theater half-breed
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
fantasy-prone dead stain
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
transparent wrinkle
  12/17/25
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Mustard stead
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fantasy-prone dead stain
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chest-beating cracking theater half-breed
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chest-beating cracking theater half-breed
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
effete bateful double fault nursing home
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
lemon chapel place of business
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: chest-beating cracking theater half-breed



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Mustard stead

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: chest-beating cracking theater half-breed

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: effete bateful double fault nursing home

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Mustard stead

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: effete bateful double fault nursing home

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Mustard stead

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: effete bateful double fault nursing home

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: chest-beating cracking theater half-breed

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Mustard stead

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: effete bateful double fault nursing home

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Mustard stead

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: effete bateful double fault nursing home

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: chest-beating cracking theater half-breed



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Mustard stead



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle striped hyena house

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Mustard stead

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle striped hyena house



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Hairless Office

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Mustard stead

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: hyperactive becky

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Mustard stead

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: buff judgmental home sex offender

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Mustard stead



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: chest-beating cracking theater half-breed



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: fantasy-prone dead stain

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: transparent wrinkle

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Mustard stead



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: fantasy-prone dead stain



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: chest-beating cracking theater half-breed



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: chest-beating cracking theater half-breed



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: effete bateful double fault nursing home

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: lemon chapel place of business

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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