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MLB Bros: Is Skenes' Cy Young @ 10-10 Worst For SP? (De Grom Won @ 10-9, 11-8)

king felix won at 13-12. obv relief pitchers have won wit...
Chest-beating autistic library mexican
  10/19/25
didnt some closers with a losing record win?
Ivory wonderful mad-dog skullcap fanboi
  10/19/25
Apparently only Gagne in '03.
Trip primrose box office
  10/19/25
n.b. looks like sutter won a cy @ 6-6
Chest-beating autistic library mexican
  10/20/25
yes, hence "SP" in the thread title and "obv ...
Chest-beating autistic library mexican
  10/19/25
sheeit
Ivory wonderful mad-dog skullcap fanboi
  10/19/25
cy young was a great pitcher, but he didn't get a lot of win...
exhilarant den
  10/19/25
good point
Ivory wonderful mad-dog skullcap fanboi
  10/19/25
Cr it's not the Cy WINS award
Jade histrionic indirect expression dingle berry
  10/20/25
He literally has the most wins and the most losses of any ML...
dull irradiated space liquid oxygen
  10/20/25
you cant just magically win games as a pitcher when you dont...
Copper incel
  10/20/25
poor RC? nobody ITT is shitting on skenes. ITT we all recogn...
Chest-beating autistic library mexican
  10/20/25
See: 2004 NL Cy Young, where Clemens beat Big Unit because R...
hot drab genital piercing set
  10/20/25
great example. yankee fan who loved clemens then -- even aft...
Chest-beating autistic library mexican
  10/20/25
Randy was 40 years old that year and threw a perfect game. ...
hot drab genital piercing set
  10/20/25
Did randy juice?
Chest-beating autistic library mexican
  10/20/25
Not sure why that matters but probably given that everyone j...
hot drab genital piercing set
  10/20/25
It’s an interesting question given he’s never be...
Chest-beating autistic library mexican
  10/20/25
Only 3 players pitched 200+ innings. In 2019, 15 pitchers...
Ruby antidepressant drug kitchen
  10/20/25
these guys still have as many injuries and tommy john surger...
Chest-beating autistic library mexican
  10/20/25


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Date: October 19th, 2025 11:48 PM
Author: Chest-beating autistic library mexican

king felix won at 13-12.

obv relief pitchers have won with worse or losing records, but incredible how far baseball has come that a 10-10 record can win a cy young.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49360991)



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Date: October 19th, 2025 11:49 PM
Author: Ivory wonderful mad-dog skullcap fanboi

didnt some closers with a losing record win?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49360993)



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Date: October 19th, 2025 11:57 PM
Author: Trip primrose box office

Apparently only Gagne in '03.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361004)



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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Chest-beating autistic library mexican

n.b. looks like sutter won a cy @ 6-6

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361009)



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Date: October 19th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Chest-beating autistic library mexican

yes, hence "SP" in the thread title and "obv relief pitchers" int he OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361006)



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Date: October 19th, 2025 11:59 PM
Author: Ivory wonderful mad-dog skullcap fanboi

sheeit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361008)



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Date: October 19th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: exhilarant den

cy young was a great pitcher, but he didn't get a lot of wins

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361005)



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Date: October 19th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Ivory wonderful mad-dog skullcap fanboi

good point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361007)



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Date: October 20th, 2025 12:10 AM
Author: Jade histrionic indirect expression dingle berry

Cr it's not the Cy WINS award

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361025)



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Date: October 20th, 2025 1:27 AM
Author: dull irradiated space liquid oxygen

He literally has the most wins and the most losses of any MLB pitcher ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361092)



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Date: October 20th, 2025 1:29 AM
Author: Copper incel

you cant just magically win games as a pitcher when you dont give up any runs to begin with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361097)



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Date: October 20th, 2025 8:00 AM
Author: Chest-beating autistic library mexican

poor RC? nobody ITT is shitting on skenes. ITT we all recognize he's on a terrible team

the issue ITT is discussion of a fundamental shift in baseball thinking -- away from wins and losses, and toward advance stats. which is a good thing. a guy with a 10-10 record and a sub-2 ERA would never have won the cy prior to ~15 years ago bc of hur durr writers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361267)



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Date: October 20th, 2025 8:14 AM
Author: hot drab genital piercing set

See: 2004 NL Cy Young, where Clemens beat Big Unit because Roger was 18-4 while Randy was 16-14. Randy led the league in WAR (8.4 to Roger's 5.4), strike outs, WHIP, ERA+, and had 2.60 ERA to Roger's 2.98.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_2004.shtml#all_NL_CYA_voting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361279)



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Date: October 20th, 2025 9:27 AM
Author: Chest-beating autistic library mexican

great example. yankee fan who loved clemens then -- even after he left -- and i was totally fine with that outcome at the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361383)



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Date: October 20th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: hot drab genital piercing set

Randy was 40 years old that year and threw a perfect game.

Ben Sheets actually also had way better stats than Roger but because he played in Milwaukee nobody gave a shit and he only got ONE tiny pink vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361544)



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Date: October 20th, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: Chest-beating autistic library mexican

Did randy juice?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361583)



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Date: October 20th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: hot drab genital piercing set

Not sure why that matters but probably given that everyone juiced and he was coming off injuries in 2003 and he was so good as he got old. Argument against him juicing: he has never been accused, his stats can be explained by learning control as he got older/gave up a couple MPH. Conclusion: he's 18000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361619)



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Date: October 20th, 2025 11:39 AM
Author: Chest-beating autistic library mexican

It’s an interesting question given he’s never been linked. Guys not linked that obviously doped, like David Ortiz, are heroes in the baseball media because they didn’t dope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361626)



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Date: October 20th, 2025 9:55 AM
Author: Ruby antidepressant drug kitchen

Only 3 players pitched 200+ innings.

In 2019, 15 pitchers did that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361421)



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Date: October 20th, 2025 10:21 AM
Author: Chest-beating autistic library mexican

these guys still have as many injuries and tommy john surgeries despite all this pussy pitch count crap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787928&forum_id=2Ã#49361477)