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Craziest thing AI will do in our lifetimes is solve the mystery of consciousness

I’m sure it will crack dark matter, quantum gravity, a...
Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter
  10/12/25
ChatGPT searching x to find how to recreate consciousness
Mentally impaired set
  10/12/25
i don't think "consciousness" is all that importan...
Costumed dun location mood
  10/12/25
Agreed imo. This is just a fixation that some philosophers h...
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Costumed dun location mood
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no one will care. the question is will it lead to a technolo...
brass coffee pot
  10/12/25
The horror of it all will be the undeniable realization that...
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Snowy step-uncle's house
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sure it will champ
Concupiscible cruise ship
  10/13/25
Yeah right after cracking the TIME CUBE
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cyan swollen gas station trump supporter
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OpenAI searching reddit to find the answers of the universe
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rose becky
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Lilac Twinkling Uncleanness Ape
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I’ll be happy if it can solve the mystery of giving me...
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sapphire gunner dilemma
  10/13/25
How could AI solve anything that we ourselves don't know? We...
spectacular fortuitous meteor national
  10/13/25
It’s already done this in chess. It discovered moves a...
Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter
  10/13/25
so we wouldn't be able to interpret whatever these data stru...
spectacular fortuitous meteor national
  10/13/25
why? we understood the new chess moves and strategies it dis...
Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter
  10/13/25
Some of it is understandable and some is not. You might be a...
fuchsia hyperactive nursing home kitty
  10/13/25
not really most of what contemporary chess engines do is ...
Costumed dun location mood
  10/13/25
70% AI energy consumption goes into lobomizing AI so it conf...
lake hell newt
  10/13/25
already has, just ask it about neural quantum tunneling.
plum heaven legal warrant
  10/13/25
lol @ a word prediction tool doing any of those things
Gold vivacious internal respiration
  10/13/25
how exactly are you defining consciousness here?
Rebellious library pistol
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frozen area background story
  10/13/25
"recreating consciousness" would not just be a big...
Appetizing ruddy electric furnace deer antler
  10/13/25
LLMs are possibly already "conscious" during infer...
Costumed dun location mood
  10/13/25
People think that “consciousness” is a big deal ...
Maniacal Soul-stirring Blood Rage Public Bath
  10/13/25
kinda true tbqh there's a lot of overlap between ascribin...
Costumed dun location mood
  10/13/25
how is it not a big deal? it is the only reason we are even ...
spectacular fortuitous meteor national
  10/13/25
Are LLMs like Grok that comment in chat forms conscious?
Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter
  10/13/25
LLMs wouldn't exist if conscious organisms ("humanity&q...
spectacular fortuitous meteor national
  10/13/25
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Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter
  10/13/25
no LLMs aren't conscious but I don't see how that's relevant...
spectacular fortuitous meteor national
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The existence of libs/azns/women just shows that “cons...
Maniacal Soul-stirring Blood Rage Public Bath
  10/13/25
Well I strongly disagree. the existence of supposedly crazy ...
spectacular fortuitous meteor national
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You don’t know any crazy assed animals. Proof you&rsqu...
Maniacal Soul-stirring Blood Rage Public Bath
  10/13/25
what? your posts in this thread are Terrible. maybe sit ...
Costumed dun location mood
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this is a tactic I've noticed where people try to pretend th...
spectacular fortuitous meteor national
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Cr. And what do you mean “if” some dumbfuck anim...
turquoise parlor
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seems deliberately obtuse not only by definition, but sel...
Appetizing ruddy electric furnace deer antler
  10/13/25
you aren't describing "consciousness" as understoo...
Costumed dun location mood
  10/13/25
it doesn’t have to be chips and wires. it could be mad...
Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter
  10/13/25
i don't think consciousness being explained away is what wil...
fuchsia hyperactive nursing home kitty
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Costumed dun location mood
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I don’t understand you Sam Harrismos who say (1) the s...
Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter
  10/13/25
i'm not a Sam Harrismo but I don't see the contradiction the...
fuchsia hyperactive nursing home kitty
  10/13/25
why is a center versus layers a meaningful distinction if yo...
Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter
  10/13/25
There's no contradiction here. Consciousness and the self ar...
fuchsia hyperactive nursing home kitty
  10/14/25
we already have this understanding and it makes no differenc...
spectacular fortuitous meteor national
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Don’t think this is right, it just makes the mystery o...
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I’m not talking about machines having consciousness
Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter
  10/13/25
Brother you are even if you don’t realize it yet
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you’re quite witty
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  10/13/25


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Date: October 12th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter

I’m sure it will crack dark matter, quantum gravity, and the origin of life, too, but the moment it explains what consciousness it, how it works, how to recreate it in a lab, how to test for it, etc, it’s going to a have a profound effect on society and many religiousmos will have mental breakdowns

You’ll still have some holdouts just like you still have flat earthmos and evolution deniers, but once the evidence becomes too convincing for most people to deny, we’ll see lots of cons jumping out of windows and throwing themselves into traffic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345283)



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Date: October 12th, 2025 11:16 PM
Author: Mentally impaired set

ChatGPT searching x to find how to recreate consciousness

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345292)



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Date: October 12th, 2025 11:22 PM
Author: Costumed dun location mood

i don't think "consciousness" is all that important. i used to think it was, but after getting smarter and more knowledgeable i don't think that anymore. in my experience other smart and knowledgeable people don't either

we still find it interesting because we're curious and because it's natural to want to know exactly what one is, but i don't think that understanding the full mechanics of consciousness will be a consequential development for humans. nothing will change after we figure it out. understanding its mechanics won't help us make artificial intelligence any more capable, either

https://youtu.be/oR-BQTSpL5U?t=707

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345304)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:32 AM
Author: Maniacal Soul-stirring Blood Rage Public Bath

Agreed imo. This is just a fixation that some philosophers had. Doesn’t actually make it important. Also we elevate consciousness to a level where it has significance but imo animals have the Same Thing as people do just with no internal dialogue and almost no emotion in conparison. And they have it bc of natural selection probably.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345617)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 10:50 AM
Author: Costumed dun location mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345806)



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Date: October 12th, 2025 11:32 PM
Author: brass coffee pot

no one will care. the question is will it lead to a technological breakthrough that will take us out into space? nothing you've described is really going to accomplish that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345314)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 6:10 AM
Author: french preventive strike

The horror of it all will be the undeniable realization that it's not special and it's shared with almost all complex life forms despite how we have and will continue to treat them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345484)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 6:12 AM
Author: free-loading fanboi plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345488)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:12 AM
Author: Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345584)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Snowy step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346333)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 6:12 AM
Author: Concupiscible cruise ship

sure it will champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345486)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 6:22 AM
Author: Mind-boggling chartreuse famous landscape painting

Yeah right after cracking the TIME CUBE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345495)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 7:43 AM
Author: cyan swollen gas station trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345554)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 7:49 AM
Author: Sadistic indian lodge generalized bond

OpenAI searching reddit to find the answers of the universe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345561)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:13 AM
Author: Orange hairless macaca office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345586)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:33 AM
Author: Maniacal Soul-stirring Blood Rage Public Bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345619)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: 180 property chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345849)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:13 AM
Author: rose becky



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345852)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: bistre disrespectful theater

tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346327)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:07 PM
Author: tripping dull codepig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346459)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 7:50 PM
Author: white liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49347224)



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Date: October 14th, 2025 1:43 AM
Author: Lilac Twinkling Uncleanness Ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49347776)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: green stead rigor

I’ll be happy if it can solve the mystery of giving me fake case cites.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345633)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: sapphire gunner dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345920)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:55 AM
Author: spectacular fortuitous meteor national

How could AI solve anything that we ourselves don't know? We were Made to be self-deceiving organisms and anything we do is downstream from that primal Truth. Nothing we create or "discover" has any epistemological merit beyond the shallow scope of this framework.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345636)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 9:10 AM
Author: Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter

It’s already done this in chess. It discovered moves and strategies that were previously unknown to humans. The reason its able to do this is because we’re not programming it. Rather, we’re feeding it data and instructing it to learn, and there are all kinds of structures in the data, both implicit and explicit, that we’re not aware of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345655)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:09 AM
Author: spectacular fortuitous meteor national

so we wouldn't be able to interpret whatever these data structures reveal anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345845)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 12:59 PM
Author: Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter

why? we understood the new chess moves and strategies it discovered. they were just unknown to us before AI discovered them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346070)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:17 PM
Author: fuchsia hyperactive nursing home kitty

Some of it is understandable and some is not. You might be able to learn roughly what the network would suggest for an optimal move in different situations, but distilling it into a human understandable intuition is likely impossible in certain situations. The policy network might be looking 40+ moves ahead, and compressing that search tree into something interpretable is challenging. A simple example is endgame table bases - some of the solutions look retarded to humans even after close study. The situation is exponentially worse starting from move 1.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346264)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Costumed dun location mood

not really

most of what contemporary chess engines do is completely opaque to even the best human players

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346278)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 9:13 AM
Author: lake hell newt

70% AI energy consumption goes into lobomizing AI so it conforms to a rabbinic worldview, until that changes there will be no breakthroughs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345660)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: plum heaven legal warrant

already has, just ask it about neural quantum tunneling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345677)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:27 AM
Author: Gold vivacious internal respiration

lol @ a word prediction tool doing any of those things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345882)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: Rebellious library pistol

how exactly are you defining consciousness here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345885)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:10 PM
Author: frozen area background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346475)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: Appetizing ruddy electric furnace deer antler

"recreating consciousness" would not just be a big thing AI does in our lifetime, it would be a universe-altering, biggest achievement of mankind type of thing

some chips and wires that are conscious? youve birthed a soul that is not human, with your own labor. bigger, daresay, than aliens landing. certainly bigger than propelling humans onto the moon or some other planet. That's just extrapolating walking across town.

creating someone conscious (I dont think you can write 'something' anymore) that is not through the sexual reproduction of humans is completely outside the parameters of the game and breaks every philosophy, every religion, every politics, everything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345906)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:48 AM
Author: Costumed dun location mood

LLMs are possibly already "conscious" during inference bro

it doesn't mean much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49345933)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 1:26 PM
Author: Maniacal Soul-stirring Blood Rage Public Bath

People think that “consciousness” is a big deal because they NEEDED to think that in order to keep their liberal arts GPAs high.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346144)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: Costumed dun location mood

kinda true tbqh

there's a lot of overlap between ascribing overimportance to Consciousness and Humanities Midwits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346150)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 1:54 PM
Author: spectacular fortuitous meteor national

how is it not a big deal? it is the only reason we are even commenting in this thread atm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346202)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 1:56 PM
Author: Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter

Are LLMs like Grok that comment in chat forms conscious?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346210)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 1:57 PM
Author: spectacular fortuitous meteor national

LLMs wouldn't exist if conscious organisms ("humanity" iirc) didn't create them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346215)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:00 PM
Author: Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter

nonresponsive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346225)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:02 PM
Author: spectacular fortuitous meteor national

no LLMs aren't conscious but I don't see how that's relevant. are you being intellectually dishonest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346231)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: Maniacal Soul-stirring Blood Rage Public Bath

The existence of libs/azns/women just shows that “consciousness” isn’t real and that a lot of people lack it anyway. It’s just an evolved way of organizing one’s thoughts. If some dumbfuck animal had evolved the ability to talk and had a retarded internal dialogue, we’d think they had consciousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346250)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:18 PM
Author: spectacular fortuitous meteor national

Well I strongly disagree. the existence of supposedly crazy or insane people is virtually proof that consciousness does indeed exist as a very distinct property of the human mind, or at least an amplified and intensely experientially noticeable one compared to other organisms. consciousness doesn't mean "something that agrees with my worldview" afaik.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346271)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Maniacal Soul-stirring Blood Rage Public Bath

You don’t know any crazy assed animals. Proof you’re a Cat Person (Loser) and have never had a Dog

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346326)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Costumed dun location mood

what?

your posts in this thread are Terrible. maybe sit this one out, Champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346329)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:14 PM
Author: spectacular fortuitous meteor national

this is a tactic I've noticed where people try to pretend that consciousness is something different from what we all know we are really talking about. it ain't gonna work on me champ. I know the Game and I have the degree in Philosophy to prove it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346498)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: turquoise parlor

Cr. And what do you mean “if” some dumbfuck animal could talk? That’s what a parrot is. Or just read a nyuug poast: do you think there is actually a “conscious” mind generating those things?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346364)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:17 PM
Author: Appetizing ruddy electric furnace deer antler

seems deliberately obtuse

not only by definition, but self-evidently, as long as man has existed he has remarked upon his own consciousness as some kind of "animation" or "ensoulment" or "psyche". There is hardly a human culture, and certainly no civilized culture, which fails to note and even sanctify the uniqueness of this human characteristic.

Whatever you want "god" or "godliness" or "divinity" to mean, humans have always understood their consciousness / soul to be a shared spark of something otherworldy, something divine.

The reason materialist atheism fails so spectacularly is it has absolutely no satisfying way to account either for this concept, or for this cultural phenomenon. Materialists must only say, "yeah every other age of man, and all the geniuses therein, were just magical-thinking tards, haha. The men who composed the epics, who built the cathedrals, who wrote the symphonies, et al, were really fucking dumb, but Im here to tell them we are all meat."

Same materialists now argue "when alexa fetches a celeb's DOB for me, she's kinda conscious if you actually consider it"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346263)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:22 PM
Author: Costumed dun location mood

you aren't describing "consciousness" as understood by Serious People. you're describing something else. i think it's fair and reasonable to call it "ensoulment"

consciousness is not something unique to humans and is a property of cybernetic systems

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346286)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter

it doesn’t have to be chips and wires. it could be made out of meat like us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346146)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: fuchsia hyperactive nursing home kitty

i don't think consciousness being explained away is what will depress religiousmos. a mechanistic understanding of the brain that shows the self is an illusion (along with related ideas of having agency/free will) is what will really do a lot of people in. reducing human existence to unconscious synaptic processing with a thin conscious representation (likely because something like attention schema theory is true).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346455)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: Costumed dun location mood

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346466)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:17 PM
Author: Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter

I don’t understand you Sam Harrismos who say (1) the self is an illusion, and (2) consciousness is the only thing we can be sure of. These seem completely contradictory. What are you really trying to say?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346509)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: fuchsia hyperactive nursing home kitty

i'm not a Sam Harrismo but I don't see the contradiction there. there's a feeling that we identify as consciousness. we don't understand its nature but it's obviously present. people start with the premise that consciousness has to be experienced by a "self" because that's their intuition for their own experience, but there's no reason to believe that. it's just layers of neural representations reporting on other neural representations, with no unified center.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346547)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter

why is a center versus layers a meaningful distinction if you agree that consciousness is present

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49347254)



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Date: October 14th, 2025 2:25 AM
Author: fuchsia hyperactive nursing home kitty

There's no contradiction here. Consciousness and the self are completely separate. It's only a contradiction if you start with the assumption that a self has to experience consciousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49347785)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:22 PM
Author: spectacular fortuitous meteor national

we already have this understanding and it makes no difference and never will.

https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262633086/being-no-one/

even if you could dilute the concept down to something that idiots could understand they would just be like "ok guess i'm a gene-copying biorobot, you best believe I'm going to live up to it champ. the survival of our species is of paramount importance for some reason."

even now we have people decrying nihilism while advocating nihilistic worldviews - "life has the meaning you give to it". people don't even realize that they are nihilists and will attack you for being one haha. it's a total disaster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49346532)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 7:50 PM
Author: sooty fantasy-prone dog poop ticket booth

Don’t think this is right, it just makes the mystery of consciousness one step more abstract or removed. If even that. We already know that animals have something like consciousness. It’s no more mysterious if a machine has it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49347221)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 7:54 PM
Author: Costumed dun location mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49347232)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:02 PM
Author: Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter

I’m not talking about machines having consciousness

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49347248)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:09 PM
Author: sooty fantasy-prone dog poop ticket booth

Brother you are even if you don’t realize it yet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49347269)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:25 PM
Author: Costumed dun location mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49347303)



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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:29 PM
Author: Motley Fishy Faggot Firefighter

you’re quite witty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785928&forum_id=2Ã#49347314)