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At what point do you kill your family dog?

I have an 11 yo dog and 2 young kids who are quite fond of h...
infuriating 180 windowlicker
  12/01/25
I would pay for the surgery but you absolutely should see if...
Garnet area dingle berry
  12/01/25
https://www.nahf.org/article/tracheal-collapse-dog-surgery-c...
Garnet area dingle berry
  12/01/25
Yeah everything’s insanely inflated where I am. Gettin...
infuriating 180 windowlicker
  12/01/25
Do you live around NYC? If so then I can recommend a place....
Garnet area dingle berry
  12/01/25
Nah unfortunately. I like the idea of vet schools. I think w...
infuriating 180 windowlicker
  12/01/25
Good luck.
Garnet area dingle berry
  12/01/25
I would pay for the surgery but if you are legit broke then ...
Underhanded magenta round eye
  12/01/25
check if vet is owned by MARS chocolate before proceeding
Adventurous bright garrison hunting ground
  12/01/25
if you have pet insurance get the surgery no question. if yo...
smoky swashbuckling really tough guy national security agency
  12/01/25
No pet insurance. I’ll shop around and see if we can g...
infuriating 180 windowlicker
  12/01/25
unfortunately they probably won't cover this if you don't al...
smoky swashbuckling really tough guy national security agency
  12/01/25
tbf, how does an insurer find "vet records" that y...
diverse rebellious sandwich locale
  12/01/25
bro idk ok fine you have found the loophole around preexisti...
smoky swashbuckling really tough guy national security agency
  12/01/25
It’s much harder for human pre existing conditions to ...
diverse rebellious sandwich locale
  12/01/25
How to keep quiet about the years of records the insurance c...
Violent Main People
  12/01/25
Years of records? Most people never go the vet. We go to a w...
diverse rebellious sandwich locale
  12/01/25
are you mentally retarded
Stirring Burgundy School Cafeteria
  12/01/25
Show your work. I’ve shown mine If some vet tomorro...
diverse rebellious sandwich locale
  12/01/25
how about this. go get your dog insurance this afternoon and...
Stirring Burgundy School Cafeteria
  12/01/25
Wait 6 months
diverse rebellious sandwich locale
  12/01/25
loled out loud at this. jews are so 180 and smart
Stirring Burgundy School Cafeteria
  12/01/25
Can you drive dog to rural vet or a vet school? Vet schools ...
Violent Main People
  12/01/25
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Garnet area dingle berry
  12/01/25
I don't know anything about pet insurance, but i'm litigatin...
carnelian chad multi-billionaire
  12/01/25
Drive 10 hours to a vet in ARE country and pay $2000 for the...
Violent Main People
  12/01/25
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Drab associate nursing home
  12/01/25
i couldn't spend that type of money on a dog in good conscio...
exhilarant property
  12/01/25
I would drop $10k on my dog for medical care without hesitat...
Garnet area dingle berry
  12/01/25
cut your losses. spend 300 on adoption fees for a new dog a...
Yapping fighting sweet tailpipe
  12/01/25
Very hard to adopt a dog that isn’t a shitpit mix, esp...
diverse rebellious sandwich locale
  12/01/25
I've noticed this. I can't say I spent a ton of time brow...
narrow-minded marketing idea
  12/02/25
when you're hungry
Emerald scourge upon the earth
  12/01/25
That’s always tough and there’s no right answer....
balding hairraiser laser beams market
  12/01/25
just let it run away and the spca will pick it up and have s...
Buck-toothed Rigor Sanctuary
  12/01/25
when the wok is at a rolling boil
black shitlib shrine
  12/01/25
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Aromatic frum box office
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Crimson Pungent Range
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well-lubricated claret factory reset button clown
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diverse rebellious sandwich locale
  12/01/25
rorring boir
UhOh
  12/02/25
PAGING metaphysics is gay the poaster
Electric navy university
  12/01/25
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Coral swollen ratface stead
  12/02/25
I'd try to find a better price because that quote seems insa...
Awkward sneaky criminal forum
  12/01/25
i'd spend whatever it takes, but this is some goyishe math. ...
diverse rebellious sandwich locale
  12/01/25
There’s ways the dog can make it up to you after the s...
Painfully Honest Domesticated Hell Jap
  12/01/25
Hey mig, you murdered your dog bc he annoyed you. Thoughts h...
Coral swollen ratface stead
  12/02/25
my extended family did the dog surgery/chemo stuff once and ...
Kenneth Play
  12/02/25
i do it in the first year, before anyone gets too attached.
UhOh
  12/02/25
Update: Got a second opinion from a country vet an hour away...
Wes Scantlin
  12/04/25
180
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  12/04/25
180 fuck those vet scammers
Refunkulus
  12/04/25
180
Kenneth Play
  12/04/25
180. This is why you get second opinions. Also, never use ...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  12/04/25


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Date: December 1st, 2025 1:59 PM
Author: infuriating 180 windowlicker

I have an 11 yo dog and 2 young kids who are quite fond of her. Unfortunately, she has a collapsing trachea, which will progressively worsen until it suffocates her to death. Could be months, could be years. In the meantime, I can pay $5,000 for a tracheal surgery which could more or less “cure” the issue but even then she’s looking at maybe 5 years tops. I’m also Poor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474553)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:00 PM
Author: Garnet area dingle berry

I would pay for the surgery but you absolutely should see if the vet is ripping you off. Get a few other second opinions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474558)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:05 PM
Author: Garnet area dingle berry

https://www.nahf.org/article/tracheal-collapse-dog-surgery-cost



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474580)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: infuriating 180 windowlicker

Yeah everything’s insanely inflated where I am. Getting multiple opinions though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474589)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:09 PM
Author: Garnet area dingle berry

Do you live around NYC? If so then I can recommend a place.

If not, I recommend some veterinary schools. They may be cheaper, especially if you allow them to work with students on the dog (it would be supervised by faculty).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474597)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:19 PM
Author: infuriating 180 windowlicker

Nah unfortunately. I like the idea of vet schools. I think we have a couple nearby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474630)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:43 PM
Author: Garnet area dingle berry

Good luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474905)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:02 PM
Author: Underhanded magenta round eye

I would pay for the surgery but if you are legit broke then don’t do it, just put the dog to sleep when it’s time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474569)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: Adventurous bright garrison hunting ground

check if vet is owned by MARS chocolate before proceeding

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474573)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:03 PM
Author: smoky swashbuckling really tough guy national security agency

if you have pet insurance get the surgery no question. if you don't and really can't afford the $5k, it might old yeller time...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474577)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:06 PM
Author: infuriating 180 windowlicker

No pet insurance. I’ll shop around and see if we can get it cheaper. It’s hard to kill something over money. Obviously there’s a threshold but WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474583)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: smoky swashbuckling really tough guy national security agency

unfortunately they probably won't cover this if you don't already have insurance. your vet records will show that the tests for this condition predate the policy. still try though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474588)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:09 PM
Author: diverse rebellious sandwich locale

tbf, how does an insurer find "vet records" that you dont show them?

is there some national database of vet records?

one weird trick: cant op just get insurance now and keep quiet about any vet records in existence and let do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474598)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:14 PM
Author: smoky swashbuckling really tough guy national security agency

bro idk ok fine you have found the loophole around preexisting conditions the insurance conundrum is solved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474614)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: diverse rebellious sandwich locale

It’s much harder for human pre existing conditions to be hidden because most people are not just going to random doctors but having their claims submitted to major national insurance companies so there’s essentially a national database of your medical record through insurance claims.

For dogs its not the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474674)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Violent Main People

How to keep quiet about the years of records the insurance company will demand to see as a condition of coverage and will scour for any sign of breathing issues?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474642)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: diverse rebellious sandwich locale

Years of records? Most people never go the vet. We go to a walk in clinic for shots and I have those records. There’s no records of annual checkups or blood work or anything that would document any physical condition our dog has.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474668)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Stirring Burgundy School Cafeteria

are you mentally retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474676)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: diverse rebellious sandwich locale

Show your work. I’ve shown mine

If some vet tomorrow said my dog had a major problem, I’d never mention that visit. I’d simply show the insurance company the records of the walk in clinics where we’ve gotten vaccines over the last few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474692)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Stirring Burgundy School Cafeteria

how about this. go get your dog insurance this afternoon and report a collapsing trachea to them tomorrow, even if its a lie. lets see what unfolds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474756)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:31 PM
Author: diverse rebellious sandwich locale

Wait 6 months

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474854)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:27 PM
Author: Stirring Burgundy School Cafeteria

loled out loud at this. jews are so 180 and smart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474658)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: Violent Main People

Can you drive dog to rural vet or a vet school? Vet schools often have discounted rates so vet students can learn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474609)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:14 PM
Author: Garnet area dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474613)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: carnelian chad multi-billionaire

I don't know anything about pet insurance, but i'm litigating a case against a state insurance regulator and got a bunch of their internal emails, and they absolutely RIP on pet insurance. They use it as a shorthand for a scammy worthless product.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474913)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:10 PM
Author: Violent Main People

Drive 10 hours to a vet in ARE country and pay $2000 for the surgery instead. Otherwise put down the dog if it looks very uncomfortable all the time. This should be a high bar, though.. Dogs are very resilient and adapt to most shit that life brings them. *takes gun out of mouth* we can learn a lot from them, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474599)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: Drab associate nursing home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474657)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: exhilarant property

i couldn't spend that type of money on a dog in good conscious. my ex (a vet) and i got in a big fight over this. it seems extraordinarily selfish consider $5k could make a lot of other pets (and humans) lives much better.

with kids you could mentally frame it as paying for their happiness but if youre poor your money is better spent elsewhere imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474611)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:15 PM
Author: Garnet area dingle berry

I would drop $10k on my dog for medical care without hesitation. That said, my last dog (a giant dog too) beat cancer twice, was a diabetic, lived to 13 and all of her care combined was under $10k. I never spent $5k on any single thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474617)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:16 PM
Author: Yapping fighting sweet tailpipe

cut your losses. spend 300 on adoption fees for a new dog and think about how excited your kids will be about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474621)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: diverse rebellious sandwich locale

Very hard to adopt a dog that isn’t a shitpit mix, especially in an expensive area like where OP seems to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474679)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:04 AM
Author: narrow-minded marketing idea

I've noticed this.

I can't say I spent a ton of time browsing dog adoption ads years ago, but it can't always have been like this.

I look at what the nearest shelter has and the vast majority are shitpits and the remainder are kinda sad looking, not particularly cute dogs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49476314)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:17 PM
Author: Emerald scourge upon the earth

when you're hungry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474626)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: balding hairraiser laser beams market

That’s always tough and there’s no right answer. My last dog didn’t make it quite to 11 and went pretty quick, natural time for the breed. But I told myself if it ever looked like he was suffering I’d take him out for all the cheeseburgers he could eat and then give him a lethal dose of meds and sit there with him till he was gone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474690)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Rigor Sanctuary

just let it run away and the spca will pick it up and have some shitlib couple pay for the surgery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474693)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: black shitlib shrine

when the wok is at a rolling boil

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474698)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Aromatic frum box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474712)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:56 PM
Author: Crimson Pungent Range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474737)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:45 PM
Author: well-lubricated claret factory reset button clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474915)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:34 PM
Author: diverse rebellious sandwich locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49476074)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: UhOh

rorring boir

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49476768)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 3:52 PM
Author: Electric navy university

PAGING metaphysics is gay the poaster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49474942)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:10 AM
Author: Coral swollen ratface stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49476326)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:28 PM
Author: Awkward sneaky criminal forum

I'd try to find a better price because that quote seems insane but you gotta save the dog. Even at $5k, you're renting the dog for $80/month. I'm sure if you asked your kids if they'd rather skip eating out once a month or kill the dog, they'd choose the former. This is a crossroads where you can put them more on the route to becoming autoadmit sociopaths or make them more normal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49475049)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: diverse rebellious sandwich locale

i'd spend whatever it takes, but this is some goyishe math. at 11, the dog may die in 2-3 yrs even with the surgery -- of something related to the condition, or of other old age shit. the surgery doesnt guarantee him living until 16 by any means. that being said, i totally agree that you've got to save the dog but shop around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49475054)



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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Domesticated Hell Jap

There’s ways the dog can make it up to you after the surgery. It will owe you and you can exploit that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49476042)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 1:10 AM
Author: Coral swollen ratface stead

Hey mig, you murdered your dog bc he annoyed you. Thoughts here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49476328)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth)

my extended family did the dog surgery/chemo stuff once and i wouldn't do it again. yes it probably extended the life of the dog a year or something. but the dog cannot understand why it is in short term pain. it's a sad moment but i would say pick the day and end it is a compassionate OK thing to do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49476759)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: UhOh

i do it in the first year, before anyone gets too attached.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49476764)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: Wes Scantlin

Update: Got a second opinion from a country vet an hour away. He says NOT collapsed trachea, just borderline, but he needs heart meds. So now I have a nearly blind old dog on heart failure meds, but he should be sticking around for a while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49483765)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49483931)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: Refunkulus (I Always Post Always TP)

180 fuck those vet scammers



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49483958)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth)

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49484588)



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Date: December 4th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


180. This is why you get second opinions. Also, never use the first vet again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5804779&forum_id=2Ã#49484590)