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Has anyone in history reached the level of worldwide fame Michael Jackson did?

Not even Jesus is on his level
mint crusty private investor reading party
  10/16/25
he's not even the most famous person with "MJ" ini...
hairless mildly autistic goal in life state
  10/16/25
Elvis was bigger than MJ 🙄
fighting fragrant double fault
  10/16/25
worldwide it’s michael and its not even close
mint crusty private investor reading party
  10/16/25
Can’t argue with that, Chang
vivacious parlour pervert
  10/16/25
WRONG https://static.dw.com/image/40162725_1004.webp
fighting fragrant double fault
  10/16/25
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mint crusty private investor reading party
  10/16/25
youre being sloppy with your categories and numbers i pre...
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  10/16/25
let’s narrow it to at the peak of their fame, name rec...
mint crusty private investor reading party
  10/16/25
Trump and it's not even remotely close
hairless mildly autistic goal in life state
  10/16/25
There is a stratosphere of "globally recognizable"...
Cracking Big-titted Son Of Senegal Brunch
  10/16/25
You’re a fucking retard and you’re over complica...
mint crusty private investor reading party
  10/16/25
while still alive is an important component and you are not ...
hairless mildly autistic goal in life state
  10/16/25
Taylor Swift is basically at that level rn
histrionic famous landscape painting
  10/16/25
she’s not on Michael’s level at his peak no sorr...
mint crusty private investor reading party
  10/16/25
you are so fucking weird
hairless mildly autistic goal in life state
  10/16/25
She never had the universal appeal of MJ in the 80s.
fighting fragrant double fault
  10/16/25
Right. Swift fans are a certain type. But everyone loved Mic...
aphrodisiac honey-headed crackhouse
  10/16/25
but her fans are more devoted on average, so i'd say it's at...
Crimson excitant stage
  10/16/25
Would jet black Congo ophthalmologists know Taylor? I guess ...
Filthy Ladyboy Ticket Booth
  10/16/25
...
Crimson excitant stage
  10/16/25
Even old people knew MJ. Nobody over 50 has any idea who Ta...
lilac set messiness
  10/21/25
Theres something about music thats different to say a film/m...
Embarrassed to the bone generalized bond
  10/16/25
Toddlers also know "SP" before seeing him but that...
Filthy Ladyboy Ticket Booth
  10/16/25
How would toddlers know who spaceporn is? Do toddlers read...
fighting fragrant double fault
  10/16/25
When the lights go out in the playroom, they know
Filthy Ladyboy Ticket Booth
  10/16/25
jfc SP
soggy titillating school cafeteria tank
  10/16/25
I think Michael Jordan got pretty close
aphrodisiac honey-headed crackhouse
  10/16/25
yeah he's the first one i think of for counter examples. ...
Cracking Big-titted Son Of Senegal Brunch
  10/16/25
get out of my thread you insufferable autist
mint crusty private investor reading party
  10/16/25
Jordan is a good one
mint crusty private investor reading party
  10/16/25
I don't think most goat herders in Mongolia knew who he is
Ivory zombie-like resort
  10/21/25
Trump obviously
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  10/16/25
LORD BYRON
House-broken bisexual wrinkle
  10/21/25
cr. he was famous worldwide at a time before tv, radio, etc....
swashbuckling sepia turdskin
  10/21/25
last 50 years? Other than MJ, probably Trump and Elvis
Ivory zombie-like resort
  10/21/25
Muhammad Ali was more famous than Michael Jackson.
snowy big center
  10/21/25
Religious figures don't count, Trumpkin.
fighting fragrant double fault
  10/21/25
Trump
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  10/21/25
Man, fuck these other comments. You're GODDAMN RIGHT that th...
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  10/21/25
Michael Jackson and Madonna wouldn't have been able to walk ...
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  10/21/25
he wasnt even the most famous during his century. Elvis and ...
swashbuckling sepia turdskin
  10/21/25
Did people in Asia and Africa even know about Elvis and the ...
lilac set messiness
  10/21/25
who cares what they think. the world is America and Europe.
swashbuckling sepia turdskin
  10/21/25


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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:48 AM
Author: mint crusty private investor reading party

Not even Jesus is on his level

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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:56 AM
Author: hairless mildly autistic goal in life state

he's not even the most famous person with "MJ" initials you tranny retard. you just like him because he was a disgusting pedo just like you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352673)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:49 AM
Author: fighting fragrant double fault

Elvis was bigger than MJ 🙄

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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: mint crusty private investor reading party

worldwide it’s michael and its not even close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352669)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:12 AM
Author: vivacious parlour pervert

Can’t argue with that, Chang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352705)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:17 AM
Author: fighting fragrant double fault

WRONG

https://static.dw.com/image/40162725_1004.webp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352714)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: mint crusty private investor reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352716)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Cracking Big-titted Son Of Senegal Brunch

youre being sloppy with your categories and numbers

i presume you mean "in his lifetime", and so of course Jesus is out of the conversation

and i also presume you mean total headcount of people who recognize this celebrity. so, naturally, anyone famous in an era of mass communication and a global pop over 5 billion is going to win.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352671)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:59 AM
Author: mint crusty private investor reading party

let’s narrow it to at the peak of their fame, name recognition, face recognition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352679)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:01 AM
Author: hairless mildly autistic goal in life state

Trump and it's not even remotely close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352683)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: Cracking Big-titted Son Of Senegal Brunch

There is a stratosphere of "globally recognizable" and then all these unimportant, noisy factors like

- were there 8 billion people on earth, or only 6.9 billion (2001)

- how many chinks had internet access

etc

Every year there are more humans, and every year there is more distribution of media

So 2025 people will beat 2017 people, etc.

Does that make them "moar famous"? Mathematically, I guess.

I think the only meaningful thing to do is to acknowledge that a small group have reached "global fame while alive".

Popes, potuses, pop stars, soccer stars.

Again, presuming this whole convo is bracketed by 'while still alive'. Otherwise obv Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352719)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: mint crusty private investor reading party

You’re a fucking retard and you’re over complicating this because you’re an autist. I told you upthread all we need to measure is percentage of worldwide name recognition and face recognition at their peak

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352793)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:00 PM
Author: hairless mildly autistic goal in life state

while still alive is an important component and you are not explaining it clearly because you are a retarded tranny pedophile.

while still alive = Trump (not remotely close)

all time = Jesus (also not remotely close)

michael fucking jackson couldn't hold trumps nutsack and you are a retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49353115)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: histrionic famous landscape painting

Taylor Swift is basically at that level rn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352681)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:03 AM
Author: mint crusty private investor reading party

she’s not on Michael’s level at his peak no sorry

she’s absolutely the most famous living pop star though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352686)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:04 AM
Author: hairless mildly autistic goal in life state

you are so fucking weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352688)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: fighting fragrant double fault

She never had the universal appeal of MJ in the 80s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352718)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: aphrodisiac honey-headed crackhouse

Right. Swift fans are a certain type. But everyone loved Michael Jackson

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352748)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: Crimson excitant stage

but her fans are more devoted on average, so i'd say it's at the same level overall. at the very least it's worldwide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49353171)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:23 AM
Author: Filthy Ladyboy Ticket Booth

Would jet black Congo ophthalmologists know Taylor? I guess they all have obamaphones so I guess so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352726)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: Crimson excitant stage



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:42 AM
Author: lilac set messiness

Even old people knew MJ. Nobody over 50 has any idea who Taylor Swift is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363758)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:07 AM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone generalized bond

Theres something about music thats different to say a film/movie star like Tom Cruise/Brad Pitt etc where, even if some third worlder hasnt seen him live or on a TV, they're deeply familiar w the work and it transcends that person as a product, they become ethereal

sound gay but even toddlers would know "MJ" just from the beats before they ever saw him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352692)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:22 AM
Author: Filthy Ladyboy Ticket Booth

Toddlers also know "SP" before seeing him but that doesn't make him the most famous ever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352725)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:24 AM
Author: fighting fragrant double fault

How would toddlers know who spaceporn is? Do toddlers read xo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352735)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Filthy Ladyboy Ticket Booth

When the lights go out in the playroom, they know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352807)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: soggy titillating school cafeteria tank

jfc SP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352964)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: aphrodisiac honey-headed crackhouse

I think Michael Jordan got pretty close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352745)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:33 AM
Author: Cracking Big-titted Son Of Senegal Brunch

yeah he's the first one i think of for counter examples.

he reached the absolute pinnacle and there was nothing he could have done to increase recognition. he spanned the globe.

BUT he peaked during a smaller global pop and before the internet, so someone lesser than he, but who is famous today, would surpass his headcount.

you just need to identify the handful of people who maxed out, and he was one of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352754)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: mint crusty private investor reading party

get out of my thread you insufferable autist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352971)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: mint crusty private investor reading party

Jordan is a good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352970)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:30 AM
Author: Ivory zombie-like resort

I don't think most goat herders in Mongolia knew who he is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363732)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: copper anal box office

Trump obviously

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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: House-broken bisexual wrinkle

LORD BYRON

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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: swashbuckling sepia turdskin

cr. he was famous worldwide at a time before tv, radio, etc..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363921)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: Ivory zombie-like resort

last 50 years? Other than MJ, probably Trump and Elvis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363733)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: snowy big center

Muhammad Ali was more famous than Michael Jackson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363752)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:46 AM
Author: fighting fragrant double fault

Religious figures don't count, Trumpkin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363763)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: chestnut naked home sound barrier

Trump

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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: razzmatazz violet bbw den

Man, fuck these other comments. You're GODDAMN RIGHT that the king of pop tops all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363756)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: coral odious cruise ship background story

Michael Jackson and Madonna wouldn't have been able to walk down an alley in Madagascar without being screamed at and having their songs sung during their prime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363759)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:41 PM
Author: swashbuckling sepia turdskin

he wasnt even the most famous during his century. Elvis and Beatles have him beat. maybe sinatra.

as for all of history op is clearly flame. but off top of my head: Jesus, Alexander, George Washington, napoleon, Byron, Shakespeare, etc...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363934)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 6:55 PM
Author: lilac set messiness

Did people in Asia and Africa even know about Elvis and the Beatles? I feel like they were more aware of Jackson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49364860)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 8:06 PM
Author: swashbuckling sepia turdskin

who cares what they think. the world is America and Europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49364972)