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Has anyone in history reached the level of worldwide fame Michael Jackson did?

Not even Jesus is on his level
Dead Mischievous Kitty Theatre
  10/16/25
he's not even the most famous person with "MJ" ini...
khaki frozen temple
  10/16/25
Elvis was bigger than MJ 🙄
hideous menage rigpig
  10/16/25
worldwide it’s michael and its not even close
Dead Mischievous Kitty Theatre
  10/16/25
Can’t argue with that, Chang
Bossy wrinkle liquid oxygen
  10/16/25
WRONG https://static.dw.com/image/40162725_1004.webp
hideous menage rigpig
  10/16/25
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Dead Mischievous Kitty Theatre
  10/16/25
youre being sloppy with your categories and numbers i pre...
Haunting thirsty parlour
  10/16/25
let’s narrow it to at the peak of their fame, name rec...
Dead Mischievous Kitty Theatre
  10/16/25
Trump and it's not even remotely close
khaki frozen temple
  10/16/25
There is a stratosphere of "globally recognizable"...
Haunting thirsty parlour
  10/16/25
You’re a fucking retard and you’re over complica...
Dead Mischievous Kitty Theatre
  10/16/25
while still alive is an important component and you are not ...
khaki frozen temple
  10/16/25
Taylor Swift is basically at that level rn
Buck-toothed Electric Toilet Seat
  10/16/25
she’s not on Michael’s level at his peak no sorr...
Dead Mischievous Kitty Theatre
  10/16/25
you are so fucking weird
khaki frozen temple
  10/16/25
She never had the universal appeal of MJ in the 80s.
hideous menage rigpig
  10/16/25
Right. Swift fans are a certain type. But everyone loved Mic...
cordovan stag film
  10/16/25
but her fans are more devoted on average, so i'd say it's at...
copper whorehouse
  10/16/25
Would jet black Congo ophthalmologists know Taylor? I guess ...
blue useless brakes point
  10/16/25
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copper whorehouse
  10/16/25
Even old people knew MJ. Nobody over 50 has any idea who Ta...
Comical volcanic crater parlor
  10/21/25
Theres something about music thats different to say a film/m...
Hyperventilating soul-stirring fat ankles
  10/16/25
Toddlers also know "SP" before seeing him but that...
blue useless brakes point
  10/16/25
How would toddlers know who spaceporn is? Do toddlers read...
hideous menage rigpig
  10/16/25
When the lights go out in the playroom, they know
blue useless brakes point
  10/16/25
jfc SP
olive nighttime cuckold
  10/16/25
I think Michael Jordan got pretty close
cordovan stag film
  10/16/25
yeah he's the first one i think of for counter examples. ...
Haunting thirsty parlour
  10/16/25
get out of my thread you insufferable autist
Dead Mischievous Kitty Theatre
  10/16/25
Jordan is a good one
Dead Mischievous Kitty Theatre
  10/16/25
I don't think most goat herders in Mongolia knew who he is
Territorial address old irish cottage
  10/21/25
Trump obviously
Curious Violet Forum
  10/16/25
LORD BYRON
effete motley circlehead fortuitous meteor
  10/21/25
cr. he was famous worldwide at a time before tv, radio, etc....
slate lay ceo
  10/21/25
last 50 years? Other than MJ, probably Trump and Elvis
Territorial address old irish cottage
  10/21/25
Muhammad Ali was more famous than Michael Jackson.
nubile chrome national security agency spot
  10/21/25
Religious figures don't count, Trumpkin.
hideous menage rigpig
  10/21/25
Trump
glassy hall
  10/21/25
Man, fuck these other comments. You're GODDAMN RIGHT that th...
Harsh thriller reading party kitchen
  10/21/25
Michael Jackson and Madonna wouldn't have been able to walk ...
avocado sanctuary
  10/21/25
he wasnt even the most famous during his century. Elvis and ...
slate lay ceo
  10/21/25
Did people in Asia and Africa even know about Elvis and the ...
Comical volcanic crater parlor
  10/21/25
who cares what they think. the world is America and Europe.
slate lay ceo
  10/21/25


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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:48 AM
Author: Dead Mischievous Kitty Theatre

Not even Jesus is on his level

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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:56 AM
Author: khaki frozen temple

he's not even the most famous person with "MJ" initials you tranny retard. you just like him because he was a disgusting pedo just like you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352673)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:49 AM
Author: hideous menage rigpig

Elvis was bigger than MJ 🙄

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352668)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: Dead Mischievous Kitty Theatre

worldwide it’s michael and its not even close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352669)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:12 AM
Author: Bossy wrinkle liquid oxygen

Can’t argue with that, Chang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352705)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:17 AM
Author: hideous menage rigpig

WRONG

https://static.dw.com/image/40162725_1004.webp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352714)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: Dead Mischievous Kitty Theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352716)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Haunting thirsty parlour

youre being sloppy with your categories and numbers

i presume you mean "in his lifetime", and so of course Jesus is out of the conversation

and i also presume you mean total headcount of people who recognize this celebrity. so, naturally, anyone famous in an era of mass communication and a global pop over 5 billion is going to win.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352671)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:59 AM
Author: Dead Mischievous Kitty Theatre

let’s narrow it to at the peak of their fame, name recognition, face recognition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352679)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:01 AM
Author: khaki frozen temple

Trump and it's not even remotely close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352683)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: Haunting thirsty parlour

There is a stratosphere of "globally recognizable" and then all these unimportant, noisy factors like

- were there 8 billion people on earth, or only 6.9 billion (2001)

- how many chinks had internet access

etc

Every year there are more humans, and every year there is more distribution of media

So 2025 people will beat 2017 people, etc.

Does that make them "moar famous"? Mathematically, I guess.

I think the only meaningful thing to do is to acknowledge that a small group have reached "global fame while alive".

Popes, potuses, pop stars, soccer stars.

Again, presuming this whole convo is bracketed by 'while still alive'. Otherwise obv Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352719)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: Dead Mischievous Kitty Theatre

You’re a fucking retard and you’re over complicating this because you’re an autist. I told you upthread all we need to measure is percentage of worldwide name recognition and face recognition at their peak

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352793)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:00 PM
Author: khaki frozen temple

while still alive is an important component and you are not explaining it clearly because you are a retarded tranny pedophile.

while still alive = Trump (not remotely close)

all time = Jesus (also not remotely close)

michael fucking jackson couldn't hold trumps nutsack and you are a retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49353115)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: Buck-toothed Electric Toilet Seat

Taylor Swift is basically at that level rn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352681)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:03 AM
Author: Dead Mischievous Kitty Theatre

she’s not on Michael’s level at his peak no sorry

she’s absolutely the most famous living pop star though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352686)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:04 AM
Author: khaki frozen temple

you are so fucking weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352688)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: hideous menage rigpig

She never had the universal appeal of MJ in the 80s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352718)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: cordovan stag film

Right. Swift fans are a certain type. But everyone loved Michael Jackson

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352748)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: copper whorehouse

but her fans are more devoted on average, so i'd say it's at the same level overall. at the very least it's worldwide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49353171)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:23 AM
Author: blue useless brakes point

Would jet black Congo ophthalmologists know Taylor? I guess they all have obamaphones so I guess so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352726)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: copper whorehouse



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:42 AM
Author: Comical volcanic crater parlor

Even old people knew MJ. Nobody over 50 has any idea who Taylor Swift is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363758)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:07 AM
Author: Hyperventilating soul-stirring fat ankles

Theres something about music thats different to say a film/movie star like Tom Cruise/Brad Pitt etc where, even if some third worlder hasnt seen him live or on a TV, they're deeply familiar w the work and it transcends that person as a product, they become ethereal

sound gay but even toddlers would know "MJ" just from the beats before they ever saw him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352692)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:22 AM
Author: blue useless brakes point

Toddlers also know "SP" before seeing him but that doesn't make him the most famous ever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352725)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:24 AM
Author: hideous menage rigpig

How would toddlers know who spaceporn is? Do toddlers read xo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352735)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: blue useless brakes point

When the lights go out in the playroom, they know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352807)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: olive nighttime cuckold

jfc SP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352964)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: cordovan stag film

I think Michael Jordan got pretty close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352745)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:33 AM
Author: Haunting thirsty parlour

yeah he's the first one i think of for counter examples.

he reached the absolute pinnacle and there was nothing he could have done to increase recognition. he spanned the globe.

BUT he peaked during a smaller global pop and before the internet, so someone lesser than he, but who is famous today, would surpass his headcount.

you just need to identify the handful of people who maxed out, and he was one of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352754)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: Dead Mischievous Kitty Theatre

get out of my thread you insufferable autist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352971)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: Dead Mischievous Kitty Theatre

Jordan is a good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49352970)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:30 AM
Author: Territorial address old irish cottage

I don't think most goat herders in Mongolia knew who he is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363732)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: Curious Violet Forum

Trump obviously

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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: effete motley circlehead fortuitous meteor

LORD BYRON

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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: slate lay ceo

cr. he was famous worldwide at a time before tv, radio, etc..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363921)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: Territorial address old irish cottage

last 50 years? Other than MJ, probably Trump and Elvis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363733)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: nubile chrome national security agency spot

Muhammad Ali was more famous than Michael Jackson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363752)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:46 AM
Author: hideous menage rigpig

Religious figures don't count, Trumpkin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363763)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: glassy hall

Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363755)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: Harsh thriller reading party kitchen

Man, fuck these other comments. You're GODDAMN RIGHT that the king of pop tops all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363756)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: avocado sanctuary

Michael Jackson and Madonna wouldn't have been able to walk down an alley in Madagascar without being screamed at and having their songs sung during their prime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363759)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:41 PM
Author: slate lay ceo

he wasnt even the most famous during his century. Elvis and Beatles have him beat. maybe sinatra.

as for all of history op is clearly flame. but off top of my head: Jesus, Alexander, George Washington, napoleon, Byron, Shakespeare, etc...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49363934)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 6:55 PM
Author: Comical volcanic crater parlor

Did people in Asia and Africa even know about Elvis and the Beatles? I feel like they were more aware of Jackson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49364860)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 8:06 PM
Author: slate lay ceo

who cares what they think. the world is America and Europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Ã#49364972)