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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
Henna Floppy University
  11/09/25
180
Irradiated thirsty piazza
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
Henna Floppy University
  11/09/25
much more than that
Ruby self-absorbed school cafeteria
  11/09/25
anal rape?
Snowy curious pit hissy fit
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
Angry crystalline meetinghouse
  11/09/25
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Big splenetic area fortuitous meteor
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
Irradiated thirsty piazza
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
bonkers alcoholic orchestra pit mexican
  11/09/25
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hateful shrine
  11/09/25
why who is he?
Henna Floppy University
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
coral well-lubricated library cuck
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Irradiated thirsty piazza
  11/09/25
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vivacious school
  11/09/25
cr he blows
Nubile sneaky criminal
  11/09/25
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passionate coiffed rehab
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passionate coiffed rehab
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
Erotic excitant puppy
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
White diverse church building
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
confused motley tattoo wrinkle
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
Henna Floppy University
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
confused motley tattoo wrinkle
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
Adventurous church
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
Seedy dull house sound barrier
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
Electric Private Investor
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
aqua nudist milk
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
White diverse church building
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
Adventurous church
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
Nubile sneaky criminal
  11/09/25
*destroying
Henna Floppy University
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
Ruby self-absorbed school cafeteria
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
Nubile sneaky criminal
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
Ruby self-absorbed school cafeteria
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
Useless garrison love of her life
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
Henna Floppy University
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
Swashbuckling offensive philosopher-king feces
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
Henna Floppy University
  11/09/25
Jews maf
Adventurous church
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
confused motley tattoo wrinkle
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
Henna Floppy University
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
confused motley tattoo wrinkle
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
Nubile sneaky criminal
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
Electric Private Investor
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
Swashbuckling offensive philosopher-king feces
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
Histrionic Bawdyhouse Shitlib
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
Henna Floppy University
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
Histrionic Bawdyhouse Shitlib
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
Electric Private Investor
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
Henna Floppy University
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
Henna Floppy University
  11/09/25
lol
Histrionic Bawdyhouse Shitlib
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
fear-inspiring dashing main people home
  11/09/25
...
Adventurous church
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
topaz impressive hunting ground
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
White diverse church building
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
Nubile sneaky criminal
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
aqua nudist milk
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
Swashbuckling offensive philosopher-king feces
  11/09/25
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Big splenetic area fortuitous meteor
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
Henna Floppy University
  11/10/25
...
Adventurous church
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
flickering gaped national quadroon
  11/10/25
lol
Dun Athletic Conference
  11/10/25
Lmao
Useless garrison love of her life
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Henna Floppy University

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Irradiated thirsty piazza

180

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Henna Floppy University

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Ruby self-absorbed school cafeteria

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Snowy curious pit hissy fit

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Angry crystalline meetinghouse

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Big splenetic area fortuitous meteor



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Irradiated thirsty piazza

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: bonkers alcoholic orchestra pit mexican

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: hateful shrine



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Henna Floppy University

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: coral well-lubricated library cuck

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Irradiated thirsty piazza



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: vivacious school



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Nubile sneaky criminal

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: passionate coiffed rehab



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: passionate coiffed rehab



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Erotic excitant puppy

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: White diverse church building

indians, cleveland

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: confused motley tattoo wrinkle

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Henna Floppy University

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: confused motley tattoo wrinkle

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Adventurous church

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: Seedy dull house sound barrier

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Electric Private Investor

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: aqua nudist milk

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: White diverse church building

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Adventurous church

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Nubile sneaky criminal

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Henna Floppy University

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Ruby self-absorbed school cafeteria

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Nubile sneaky criminal

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Ruby self-absorbed school cafeteria

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Useless garrison love of her life

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Henna Floppy University

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Swashbuckling offensive philosopher-king feces

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Henna Floppy University

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Adventurous church

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: confused motley tattoo wrinkle

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Henna Floppy University

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: confused motley tattoo wrinkle

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Nubile sneaky criminal

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Electric Private Investor

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Swashbuckling offensive philosopher-king feces

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Histrionic Bawdyhouse Shitlib

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: Henna Floppy University

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Histrionic Bawdyhouse Shitlib

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Electric Private Investor

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Henna Floppy University

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Henna Floppy University

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Histrionic Bawdyhouse Shitlib

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: fear-inspiring dashing main people home

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: Adventurous church



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: topaz impressive hunting ground

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: White diverse church building

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Nubile sneaky criminal

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: aqua nudist milk

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Swashbuckling offensive philosopher-king feces

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Big splenetic area fortuitous meteor



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Henna Floppy University

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: Adventurous church



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: flickering gaped national quadroon

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Dun Athletic Conference

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Useless garrison love of her life

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416774)