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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke
  11/09/25
180
slimy multi-colored patrolman legend
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke
  11/09/25
much more than that
Misanthropic olive shrine party of the first part
  11/09/25
anal rape?
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  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
Cerebral sticky whorehouse stain
  11/09/25
...
primrose business firm
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
slimy multi-colored patrolman legend
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
rusted big corn cake boltzmann
  11/09/25
...
Burgundy property
  11/09/25
why who is he?
Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
elite spectacular crotch
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...
slimy multi-colored patrolman legend
  11/09/25
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Carmine Insanely Creepy Faggot Firefighter Feces
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cr he blows
Mind-boggling dilemma
  11/09/25
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Cracking topaz philosopher-king
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Cracking topaz philosopher-king
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
aquamarine lodge
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
Bisexual State Clown
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
flesh weed whacker address
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
flesh weed whacker address
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
nudist tan fat ankles
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
confused 180 stage
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
Beady-eyed Drunken Hell
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
turquoise contagious legal warrant people who are hurt
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
Bisexual State Clown
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
nudist tan fat ankles
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
Mind-boggling dilemma
  11/09/25
*destroying
Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
Misanthropic olive shrine party of the first part
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
Mind-boggling dilemma
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
Misanthropic olive shrine party of the first part
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
Bull headed spot pistol
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
racy useless piazza
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke
  11/09/25
Jews maf
nudist tan fat ankles
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
flesh weed whacker address
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
flesh weed whacker address
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
Mind-boggling dilemma
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
Beady-eyed Drunken Hell
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
racy useless piazza
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
Ebony Glittery Hall Rigor
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
Ebony Glittery Hall Rigor
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
Beady-eyed Drunken Hell
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke
  11/09/25
lol
Ebony Glittery Hall Rigor
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
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...
nudist tan fat ankles
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
Dashing Saffron Foreskin Codepig
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was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
Bisexual State Clown
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
Mind-boggling dilemma
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
turquoise contagious legal warrant people who are hurt
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
racy useless piazza
  11/09/25
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primrose business firm
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke
  11/10/25
...
nudist tan fat ankles
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
Crimson office sandwich
  11/10/25
lol
Passionate internet-worthy factory reset button station
  11/10/25
Lmao
Bull headed spot pistol
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: slimy multi-colored patrolman legend

180

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Misanthropic olive shrine party of the first part

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Galvanic Church Building

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Cerebral sticky whorehouse stain

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: primrose business firm



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: slimy multi-colored patrolman legend

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: rusted big corn cake boltzmann

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Burgundy property



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: elite spectacular crotch

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: slimy multi-colored patrolman legend



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Carmine Insanely Creepy Faggot Firefighter Feces



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Mind-boggling dilemma

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Cracking topaz philosopher-king



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Cracking topaz philosopher-king



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: aquamarine lodge

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Bisexual State Clown

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: flesh weed whacker address

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: flesh weed whacker address

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: nudist tan fat ankles

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: confused 180 stage

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Drunken Hell

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: turquoise contagious legal warrant people who are hurt

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Bisexual State Clown

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: nudist tan fat ankles

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Mind-boggling dilemma

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Misanthropic olive shrine party of the first part

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Mind-boggling dilemma

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Misanthropic olive shrine party of the first part

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Bull headed spot pistol

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: racy useless piazza

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: nudist tan fat ankles

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: flesh weed whacker address

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: flesh weed whacker address

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Mind-boggling dilemma

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Drunken Hell

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: racy useless piazza

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Ebony Glittery Hall Rigor

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Ebony Glittery Hall Rigor

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Drunken Hell

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Ebony Glittery Hall Rigor

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Aromatic violet travel guidebook coffee pot

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: nudist tan fat ankles



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Dashing Saffron Foreskin Codepig

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Bisexual State Clown

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Mind-boggling dilemma

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: turquoise contagious legal warrant people who are hurt

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: racy useless piazza

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: primrose business firm



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Obsidian Cruise Ship Yarmulke

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: nudist tan fat ankles



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Crimson office sandwich

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Passionate internet-worthy factory reset button station

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Bull headed spot pistol

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Ã#49416774)