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"He won't respond to my texts!" https://www.you...
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
This is really funny to watch him crash out
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
who the fucking fuck listens to any of these fags? Do you pe...
rebellious harsh hospital antidepressant drug
  12/02/25
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Misanthropic vigorous address
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Azure boltzmann marketing idea
  12/02/25
It's a legit question I have never once in my entire life...
Painfully honest prole
  12/02/25
ur almost at the truth
balding ratface
  12/02/25
shapiro was legit popular in rw circles 10 years ago
Azure boltzmann marketing idea
  12/02/25
According to Nick Fuentes, Shapiro cut a backroom deal with ...
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
Why would Facebook care about if people talked about covid v...
Painfully honest prole
  12/02/25
probably some nefarious jewish plan
balding ratface
  12/02/25
During the height of pandemic when all social media platform...
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
Yeah because they're Jewish. Just like Facebook management. ...
Painfully honest prole
  12/02/25
Mostly agree. On a case by case basis, in this instance, yes...
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
bro you gotta stop getting your information from a zoomer fa...
Azure boltzmann marketing idea
  12/02/25
I heard Tucker say the same thing
Sexy violet trust fund idiot
  12/02/25
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Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
He's not right about everything but when he's right, he's ri...
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
wow that’s super interesting and I totally want to now...
rebellious harsh hospital antidepressant drug
  12/02/25
Fuentes is correct. This has been confirmed a few different ...
Magical supple pit
  12/03/25
Nobody listens to Sam anymore he's completely fallen off and...
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
ok he is jewish
balding ratface
  12/02/25
oh its 3 jews all talking nice
balding ratface
  12/02/25
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Painfully honest prole
  12/02/25
The one British dood isn't Jewish ironically
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
clicked video for a second and felt sick tbh
Misanthropic vigorous address
  12/02/25
I subscribe both to The Ben Shapiro Show and Making Sense Wi...
Aphrodisiac chocolate hairy legs stain
  12/02/25
Is this a joke lol. There's no way...
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
They are both good for current events. Name a higher quality...
Aphrodisiac chocolate hairy legs stain
  12/02/25
random 4chan threads xo toilet paper
balding ratface
  12/02/25
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Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
Call Her Daddy. Pretty much anything.
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
not sure about libs, but the biggest right-wing podcast at t...
Bat shit crazy volcanic crater orchestra pit
  12/02/25
What are they saying about Ukraine?
Comical Headpube
  12/02/25
A russian jew, a british jew, and an american jew walk into ...
Indecent principal's office trump supporter
  12/02/25
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Painfully honest prole
  12/02/25
Is that other guy really Jewish he looks like John Oliver. H...
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
No idea, but he's at least ideologically jewish, my man
Indecent principal's office trump supporter
  12/02/25
https://youtu.be/UNYBy19S6GA The generational run continu...
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
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balding ratface
  12/02/25
They're all Jewish man
Painfully honest prole
  12/02/25
I haven’t heard of this guy in like 12 years. Legit th...
indigo exhilarant den
  12/02/25
He looks more jewish than I remember
Indecent principal's office trump supporter
  12/02/25
Sam Harris is the biggest fraud there is. But his entire sch...
Magical supple pit
  12/02/25
Wow that's crazy Say is he also Short by any chance in ad...
Painfully honest prole
  12/02/25
lol just googled it and he's probably 5'8". You can't m...
Magical supple pit
  12/02/25
He has also been extremely pro Isreal his entire life. He wa...
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
the only interesting thing about him is how someone with not...
Flatulent native dog poop
  12/02/25
That is him in a nutshell. He construes his opinions as both...
Magical supple pit
  12/02/25
Iirc the guy also thinks he’s a faggy spiritual guru ...
aquamarine disturbing parlor windowlicker
  12/02/25
According to Tim Dillon, Sam says he meditates while bombs a...
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
Okay, I lol’d
aquamarine disturbing parlor windowlicker
  12/02/25
Sadly I used to enjoy this fraud many years ago before I had...
Magical supple pit
  12/02/25
I saw Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins give a talk in person o...
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
Its a really good app for meditation and meditation is 180
Aphrodisiac chocolate hairy legs stain
  12/03/25
He's just of Jewish heritage but actually an atheist but als...
Narrow-minded curious library
  12/02/25
He seems to pick up an unbelievable number of Ls for someone...
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/02/25
If you pay any attention to these shitheads, even negative a...
poppy sick theatre
  12/02/25
Pay attention? We're just clowning on them. I've watched eve...
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/03/25
The only thing I know about Sam Harris is he founded/runs th...
Aqua insecure market multi-billionaire
  12/03/25
why do you like the app?
beady-eyed property
  12/03/25
in all fairness Rogan IS spectacularly dumb and gullible and...
Stimulating round eye goyim
  12/03/25
What if you're just a fratty chill goy who likes his show bu...
Cruel-hearted senate
  12/03/25


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Date: December 2nd, 2025 5:47 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

"He won't respond to my texts!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgmdUBv1d6k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478297)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:27 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

This is really funny to watch him crash out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478362)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:29 PM
Author: rebellious harsh hospital antidepressant drug

who the fucking fuck listens to any of these fags? Do you people seriously have that much free time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478363)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:30 PM
Author: Misanthropic vigorous address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478365)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:31 PM
Author: Azure boltzmann marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478371)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:32 PM
Author: Painfully honest prole

It's a legit question

I have never once in my entire life met a person who admits to watching/listening to "Ben Shapiro" or any of these other "mainstream" "conservative" "commentators" (all Jewish)

I've long held that these people have no actual fan base or following and all of their engagement metrics are astroturfed and lied about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478375)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:34 PM
Author: balding ratface

ur almost at the truth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478381)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 7:11 PM
Author: Azure boltzmann marketing idea

shapiro was legit popular in rw circles 10 years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478473)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 7:31 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

According to Nick Fuentes, Shapiro cut a backroom deal with Facebook where if the Daily Wire didn't say anything about the Covid vaccines they wouldn't be canceled for saying other conservative stuff. It was the only game in town. I don't know if that's true but that's what Nick claims.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478518)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 7:35 PM
Author: Painfully honest prole

Why would Facebook care about if people talked about covid vaccines or not

I've literally never once met a single person who followed "The Daily Wire" btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478528)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 7:52 PM
Author: balding ratface

probably some nefarious jewish plan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478557)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

During the height of pandemic when all social media platforms were getting canceled like when YT took down Joe Rogan. DW stayed open for business. #2 advertiser on all of FB at the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478590)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:12 PM
Author: Painfully honest prole

Yeah because they're Jewish. Just like Facebook management. It's one example where the explanation is literally just "both parties being Jewish" and the "anti semitic conspiracy theorists" are correct at face value without even needing to come up with some other alternative explanation for why these two Jewish parties engaged in otherwise inexplicable anti-competitive "free market" behavior

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478604)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:13 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

Mostly agree. On a case by case basis, in this instance, yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478608)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:22 PM
Author: Azure boltzmann marketing idea

bro you gotta stop getting your information from a zoomer faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478642)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 10:53 PM
Author: Sexy violet trust fund idiot

I heard Tucker say the same thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478976)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 11:27 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49479013)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 11:27 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

He's not right about everything but when he's right, he's right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49479015)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:29 PM
Author: rebellious harsh hospital antidepressant drug

wow that’s super interesting and I totally want to now listen to a 3 hour podcast where daisy fuentes explains exactly how it all went down.

*farts cum*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478665)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 3:23 PM
Author: Magical supple pit

Fuentes is correct. This has been confirmed a few different times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49480580)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:34 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

Nobody listens to Sam anymore he's completely fallen off and only talks to the small number of people who agree with him on everything.

Triggernometry is a big podcast that straddles the line but they broke hard for Isreal in an increasingly hostile climate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478384)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:29 PM
Author: balding ratface

ok he is jewish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478364)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:30 PM
Author: balding ratface

oh its 3 jews all talking

nice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478367)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:31 PM
Author: Painfully honest prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478369)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:35 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

The one British dood isn't Jewish ironically

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478387)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:31 PM
Author: Misanthropic vigorous address

clicked video for a second and felt sick tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478373)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:35 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac chocolate hairy legs stain

I subscribe both to The Ben Shapiro Show and Making Sense With Sam Harris. Both are good in their own way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478388)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:36 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

Is this a joke lol. There's no way...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478391)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:38 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac chocolate hairy legs stain

They are both good for current events. Name a higher quality podcast for current events.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478400)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:39 PM
Author: balding ratface

random 4chan threads

xo

toilet paper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478403)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:41 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478410)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:42 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

Call Her Daddy. Pretty much anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478412)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:46 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy volcanic crater orchestra pit

not sure about libs, but the biggest right-wing podcast at this point is probably warstrike. someone like shapiro is just repeating a party line, which gets boring and isn't very informative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478424)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: Comical Headpube

What are they saying about Ukraine?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478685)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:38 PM
Author: Indecent principal's office trump supporter

A russian jew, a british jew, and an american jew walk into a podcast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478399)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:39 PM
Author: Painfully honest prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478404)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:41 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

Is that other guy really Jewish he looks like John Oliver. Holy shit if true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478408)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:42 PM
Author: Indecent principal's office trump supporter

No idea, but he's at least ideologically jewish, my man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478413)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:46 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

https://youtu.be/UNYBy19S6GA

The generational run continues brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478423)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: balding ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478431)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:47 PM
Author: Painfully honest prole

They're all Jewish man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478430)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:41 PM
Author: indigo exhilarant den

I haven’t heard of this guy in like 12 years. Legit thought he was dead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478407)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 6:41 PM
Author: Indecent principal's office trump supporter

He looks more jewish than I remember

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478409)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 7:57 PM
Author: Magical supple pit

Sam Harris is the biggest fraud there is. But his entire schtick starts to make sense when you realize that:

1.) His mom was a producer of The Golden Girls, so he grew up with a ton of money and could do things like: a.) take a sabbatical from Stanford to do mushrooms and act like it's some sort of higher calling; b.) publish books called "The End of Faith" or "Letter to a Christian Nation" as though anyone gives a shit who he is or what he thinks.

2.) His dad, who was a literal fucking Hollywood Cowboy, walked out on his mom when he was a toddler. All of his "God isn't real and also worshipping God is bad" crap is just him saying "I'm mad at my dad and the world needs to know it!"

3.) He is unbelievably historically illiterate, but thinks if he talks in a monotone voice that it makes his arguments stronger.

Guy is a total fraud. And oh wow what do you know he's jewish.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478573)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 7:59 PM
Author: Painfully honest prole

Wow that's crazy

Say is he also Short by any chance in addition to being Jewish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478581)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: Magical supple pit

lol just googled it and he's probably 5'8". You can't make this shit up with these people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478585)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:07 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

He has also been extremely pro Isreal his entire life. He was at the forefront of Islamophobia back in the day. He was extremely pro bombing Gaza. He hates Trump more than anyone else because he stands up for the goyim. He may be more pro Isreal than Ben Shapiro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478594)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:20 PM
Author: Flatulent native dog poop

the only interesting thing about him is how someone with nothing to say gets attention.

in that video all he does he say "irresponsible" and "responsible" about things he doesn't like or does like and he says it in a tone that suggests, "i am the arbiter of all issues and once i've spoken there is nothing left to discuss."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478633)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:53 PM
Author: Magical supple pit

That is him in a nutshell. He construes his opinions as both factually and morally correct and anyone who disagrees is "irresponsible" and "dangerous." One of these know-it-all types with nothing to show for it other than a bunch of hot air. Many such cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478726)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:56 PM
Author: aquamarine disturbing parlor windowlicker

Iirc the guy also thinks he’s a faggy spiritual guru and has a meditation app called “waking up.” Since he’s the “awakened” one of course everyone else must take his thoughts about Israel very seriously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478729)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

According to Tim Dillon, Sam says he meditates while bombs are dropping on Gaza for peak relaxation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478753)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:05 PM
Author: aquamarine disturbing parlor windowlicker

Okay, I lol’d

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478756)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:08 PM
Author: Magical supple pit

Sadly I used to enjoy this fraud many years ago before I had my own series of "waking up" moments. The fucking guy was working on the dumb meditation app for probably 1 - 2 years. You'd think he was Andrew Carnegie the way he talked about his dumb fart app.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478763)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:11 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

I saw Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins give a talk in person one time in a theater. During the Q&A somebody asked about race and IQ and why it's so taboo and not studied. They both said there was nothing to learn from it and it shouldn't be considered at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478770)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 12:29 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac chocolate hairy legs stain

Its a really good app for meditation and meditation is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49479088)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 8:23 PM
Author: Narrow-minded curious library

He's just of Jewish heritage but actually an atheist but also objectively agrees with anything Israel and other Jews do. Personally I find this archetype the most dangerous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478644)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 9:04 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

He seems to pick up an unbelievable number of Ls for someone so powerful though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478755)



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Date: December 2nd, 2025 11:19 PM
Author: poppy sick theatre

If you pay any attention to these shitheads, even negative attention, they win. Don't let them win

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49478994)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 1:02 AM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

Pay attention? We're just clowning on them. I've watched every episode of Nick Fuentes in 2025. He won't even go on their faggy show and for good reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49479126)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 9:51 AM
Author: Aqua insecure market multi-billionaire

The only thing I know about Sam Harris is he founded/runs the Waking Up meditation app, which is by far the best app for meditation I've used to date.

The rest of this BS puts a dark cloud on my high esteem gained for him by using his app.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49479502)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 3:55 PM
Author: beady-eyed property

why do you like the app?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49480689)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 3:47 PM
Author: Stimulating round eye goyim

in all fairness Rogan IS spectacularly dumb and gullible and he has a huge audience of retards who treat his stoner thoughts like gospel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5805368&forum_id=2в�â¬#49480660)



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Date: December 3rd, 2025 4:04 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted senate

What if you're just a fratty chill goy who likes his show but you don't go around acting like you believe in aliens or the elder dryuss theory? Or are we still problematic?

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