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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
electric rigpig
  11/09/25
180
Filthy Insecure Circlehead
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
electric rigpig
  11/09/25
much more than that
Racy greedy foreskin
  11/09/25
anal rape?
Passionate locale
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
outnumbered aphrodisiac regret
  11/09/25
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Pale titillating dilemma yarmulke
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
Filthy Insecure Circlehead
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
Adventurous gay kitty cat
  11/09/25
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arousing hall
  11/09/25
why who is he?
electric rigpig
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
vigorous faggot firefighter crackhouse
  11/09/25
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Filthy Insecure Circlehead
  11/09/25
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khaki vivacious stain
  11/09/25
cr he blows
green mexican heaven
  11/09/25
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excitant locus
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excitant locus
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
stirring chapel
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
cream startling patrolman
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
bateful national
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
electric rigpig
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
bateful national
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
cowardly business firm volcanic crater
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
jade pistol
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
Misanthropic Milk
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Chartreuse marvelous personal credit line
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
cream startling patrolman
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
cowardly business firm volcanic crater
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
green mexican heaven
  11/09/25
*destroying
electric rigpig
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
Racy greedy foreskin
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
green mexican heaven
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
Racy greedy foreskin
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
glassy depressive spot
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
electric rigpig
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
razzle boltzmann university
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
electric rigpig
  11/09/25
Jews maf
cowardly business firm volcanic crater
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
bateful national
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
electric rigpig
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
bateful national
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
green mexican heaven
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
Misanthropic Milk
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
razzle boltzmann university
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
translucent azn
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
electric rigpig
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
translucent azn
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
Misanthropic Milk
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
electric rigpig
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
electric rigpig
  11/09/25
lol
translucent azn
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
razzmatazz transparent nowag friendly grandma
  11/09/25
...
cowardly business firm volcanic crater
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
Silver Rigor Private Investor
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
cream startling patrolman
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
green mexican heaven
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
Chartreuse marvelous personal credit line
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
razzle boltzmann university
  11/09/25
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Pale titillating dilemma yarmulke
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
electric rigpig
  11/10/25
...
cowardly business firm volcanic crater
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
High-end jap voyeur
  11/10/25
lol
Indigo Range
  11/10/25
Lmao
glassy depressive spot
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: electric rigpig

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Filthy Insecure Circlehead

180

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: electric rigpig

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Racy greedy foreskin

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Passionate locale

anal rape?

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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: outnumbered aphrodisiac regret

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Pale titillating dilemma yarmulke



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Filthy Insecure Circlehead

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Adventurous gay kitty cat

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: arousing hall



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: electric rigpig

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: vigorous faggot firefighter crackhouse

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Filthy Insecure Circlehead



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: khaki vivacious stain



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: green mexican heaven

cr he blows

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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: excitant locus



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: excitant locus



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: stirring chapel

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: cream startling patrolman

indians, cleveland

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: bateful national

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: electric rigpig

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: bateful national

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: cowardly business firm volcanic crater

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: jade pistol

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Misanthropic Milk

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Chartreuse marvelous personal credit line

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: cream startling patrolman

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: cowardly business firm volcanic crater

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: green mexican heaven

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: electric rigpig

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Racy greedy foreskin

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: green mexican heaven

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Racy greedy foreskin

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: glassy depressive spot

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: electric rigpig

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: razzle boltzmann university

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: electric rigpig

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: cowardly business firm volcanic crater

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: bateful national

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: electric rigpig

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: bateful national

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: green mexican heaven

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Misanthropic Milk

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: razzle boltzmann university

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: translucent azn

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: electric rigpig

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: translucent azn

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Misanthropic Milk

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: electric rigpig

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: electric rigpig

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: translucent azn

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: razzmatazz transparent nowag friendly grandma

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: cowardly business firm volcanic crater



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Silver Rigor Private Investor

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: cream startling patrolman

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: green mexican heaven

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Chartreuse marvelous personal credit line

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: razzle boltzmann university

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Pale titillating dilemma yarmulke



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: electric rigpig

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: cowardly business firm volcanic crater



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: High-end jap voyeur

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Indigo Range

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: glassy depressive spot

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49416774)