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Switch 2 being so shitty has killed my desire to play video games ever again.

I cultivated a large & highly regarded Switch 1 library,...
Umber curious striped hyena deer antler
  10/07/25
nigga please
Henna appetizing cuck multi-billionaire
  10/07/25
i got a switch 2 for my birthday. i like it but am kind of c...
seedy property
  10/07/25
It's called that because you get it for your kids and then t...
Umber curious striped hyena deer antler
  10/07/25
i am angry now
seedy property
  10/07/25
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Excitant Institution Mental Disorder
  10/07/25
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up-to-no-good location pervert
  10/07/25
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Self-absorbed kitty cat gay wizard
  10/07/25
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Hideous Affirmative Action Sneaky Criminal
  10/09/25
finally hooked my "dock" up to my 4k 65" wide...
pea-brained place of business
  10/07/25
https://www.reddit.com/r/fucknintendo/comments/1nwz4qj/sever...
Umber curious striped hyena deer antler
  10/07/25
I'm calling Fake News on that, champ. Like you can trust a b...
Henna appetizing cuck multi-billionaire
  10/07/25
These "middle aged gamer dweebs" are bravely spea...
Umber curious striped hyena deer antler
  10/07/25
the right side looks better imo
Laughsome Mentally Impaired Set
  10/09/25
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Mauve Shivering Jew
  10/08/25
And why would nintendo be incentivized to make games for it,...
Umber curious striped hyena deer antler
  10/07/25
A lot of Switch 1 games actually look worse on it so it does...
mustard cracking gunner abode
  10/07/25
It's crazy
Umber curious striped hyena deer antler
  10/07/25
Why does this always happen? They didn’t even need an ...
mustard cracking gunner abode
  10/07/25
the Switch 2 has No Games in the same way N64 was retroactiv...
stimulating boistinker
  10/07/25
It wasn’t retroactive. I’ve poasted the link man...
mustard cracking gunner abode
  10/07/25
Link
Umber curious striped hyena deer antler
  10/07/25
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj8Khw3e-e4 “Howard, ...
mustard cracking gunner abode
  10/07/25
Lol these shitjourno's wanted churned out trash and remaster...
Umber curious striped hyena deer antler
  10/07/25
They just wanted CDs. It was the 90s and CDs were seen as co...
mustard cracking gunner abode
  10/07/25
They wanted Sports Games and Fighting Games and "Mature...
Federal Onyx Locale
  10/09/25
N64 had sports games…. Westerners didn’t really...
mustard cracking gunner abode
  10/09/25
the more things change...
stimulating boistinker
  10/07/25
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flesh trip lodge skinny woman
  10/08/25
https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784539&mc=...
mustard cracking gunner abode
  10/09/25
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flesh trip lodge skinny woman
  10/09/25
Btw n64 won retroactively if anything.
mustard cracking gunner abode
  10/07/25
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flesh trip lodge skinny woman
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flesh trip lodge skinny woman
  10/09/25
Bananza and Hades 2 are probably the two best games of the y...
deranged ape
  10/09/25
LOL tyft
Umber curious striped hyena deer antler
  10/09/25
JFC
Federal Onyx Locale
  10/09/25
I wanted to waste money on something but I am watching a pla...
Federal Onyx Locale
  10/09/25
Why doesn’t anyone talk ever acknowledge that games li...
mustard cracking gunner abode
  10/09/25
not cr. the graphics style is cartoony and kid-like, but nin...
seedy property
  10/09/25
That’s what you think bc Switch won the gen. You weren...
mustard cracking gunner abode
  10/09/25
it was never a laughingstock IME
pea-brained place of business
  10/09/25
ncr. from N64 on, i was a nintendo fanboy. loved the GC and ...
seedy property
  10/09/25
God forbid anyone makes games for kids rather than perpetual...
misanthropic circlehead
  10/09/25
Then the autists shouldn’t be like “the State of...
mustard cracking gunner abode
  10/09/25
I have never liked any donkey's kong. I thought the SNES one...
Umber curious striped hyena deer antler
  10/09/25
Nintendo was making fine games that appealed to kids and adu...
Umber curious striped hyena deer antler
  10/09/25
Making a different game is a risky gambit for sure.
mustard cracking gunner abode
  10/09/25
New Donkey Kong is basically Mario Odessey 2.
misanthropic circlehead
  10/09/25
the biggest Mario fan on xo here - Mario odyssey was boring ...
pea-brained place of business
  10/09/25
You don't beat games. I doubt you even unlocked Darker Side ...
Umber curious striped hyena deer antler
  10/09/25
So let me get this straight? A bunch of middle aged lawyers ...
deranged ape
  10/09/25
Iirc none of us have played games in decades we just like to...
Umber curious striped hyena deer antler
  10/09/25
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mustard cracking gunner abode
  10/09/25
Do u realize just how insanely shitty the ABSOLUTE STATE OF ...
Federal Onyx Locale
  10/09/25
Yeah, I guess that explains why literally the two highest ra...
deranged ape
  10/09/25
i played split fiction w my kid, it was neat but that shit w...
Laughsome Mentally Impaired Set
  10/09/25
just get an occulus quest 3 and watch vr porn
Laughsome Mentally Impaired Set
  10/09/25


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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: Umber curious striped hyena deer antler

I cultivated a large & highly regarded Switch 1 library, all physical games, knowing I'd one day play through them. But now I don't want to anymore, the system has been tainted now that it's tied to the Switch 2, an underpowered piece of shit with a cheap non OLED screen with no games. I genuinely have like 20-30 unopened games, some even imported from japan

The last game I tried playing was that new 2d zelda game where you play as zelda, and it was iphone quality trash. Some day we're gonna find out that nintendo quietly replaced all their workers with Indians and this will all make sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331745)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:30 PM
Author: Henna appetizing cuck multi-billionaire

nigga please

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331749)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: seedy property

i got a switch 2 for my birthday. i like it but am kind of confused. is this really a "new" console? why call it the switch 2? why not have games for it?

bizarre.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331761)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:35 PM
Author: Umber curious striped hyena deer antler

It's called that because you get it for your kids and then they switch 2 playing outside because the system has no games and will never have games, it was a rugpull

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331770)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: seedy property

i am angry now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331774)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:58 PM
Author: Excitant Institution Mental Disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331842)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 1:24 PM
Author: up-to-no-good location pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331915)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: Self-absorbed kitty cat gay wizard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331932)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 8:09 AM
Author: Hideous Affirmative Action Sneaky Criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336215)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:35 PM
Author: pea-brained place of business

finally hooked my "dock" up to my 4k 65" widescreen television last night.

Mario Galaxy 1 looks GLORIOUS in 4k resolution, and is as fun and inventive as ever. A Triumph.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331771)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:38 PM
Author: Umber curious striped hyena deer antler

https://www.reddit.com/r/fucknintendo/comments/1nwz4qj/several_textures_are_visibly_downgraded_and_look/ Lol they ran an AI smoothing filter over a 20 year old game and extracted 70 shekels from you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331779)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:41 PM
Author: Henna appetizing cuck multi-billionaire

I'm calling Fake News on that, champ. Like you can trust a bunch of angry middle aged gamer dweebs posting on "fucknintendo"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331788)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Umber curious striped hyena deer antler

These "middle aged gamer dweebs" are bravely speaking truth to power and get banned from other gaming subs just for poasting in there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331794)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 12:51 PM
Author: Laughsome Mentally Impaired Set

the right side looks better imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336972)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 11:57 PM
Author: Mauve Shivering Jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49335899)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: Umber curious striped hyena deer antler

And why would nintendo be incentivized to make games for it, because they sold 153 million switch 1 systems,

And like 6 million switch 2s

Do you wanna sell to 153 million people or 6 million

🤔🤔🤔

It's a con. Potemkin console.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331776)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: mustard cracking gunner abode

A lot of Switch 1 games actually look worse on it so it doesn’t even properly function as a “Switch Pro” (which is basically what it is).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331792)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:44 PM
Author: Umber curious striped hyena deer antler

It's crazy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331796)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:52 PM
Author: mustard cracking gunner abode

Why does this always happen? They didn’t even need an AAA killer app. Just make a Pokémon game with PS4 graphics and 60 FPS. Every time a Console comes out it has No Games EXCEPT Switch 1 and like idk SNES. This shit needs to stop. Like the pinnacle of a console getting Games is PS1 like 5 years into its life. No one ever thinks that a new console should have games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331816)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 12:58 PM
Author: stimulating boistinker

the Switch 2 has No Games in the same way N64 was retroactively declared to have No Games afaict. I wonder if this rhetoric is stemming from the Sony camp where Games are in abundance and have big budgets, like Concord. You just can't expect Nintendo to compete with that; they must settle for outselling Sony 50:1 in every major market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331839)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 1:05 PM
Author: mustard cracking gunner abode

It wasn’t retroactive. I’ve poasted the link many times of Next Generation grilling Howard Lincoln in Q1 ‘97 over the lack of Games. Literally one of the best Nintendo release years ever with goldeneye/mario kart/star fox and it still was thought to have No Games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331860)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 1:21 PM
Author: Umber curious striped hyena deer antler

Link

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331903)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: mustard cracking gunner abode

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj8Khw3e-e4

“Howard, you’ve read our May cover story, Something is Wrong with Nintendo 64. What’s your reaction?”

For fuck’s same, 6 months in. Shadows of the Empire hoth level and Boba Fett boss battle, violent western games, Mario/Mario Kart/Pilotwings, only system doing legit 3D and THIS is what they ask him? Diddy Kong Racing was mere weeks away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331923)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 1:35 PM
Author: Umber curious striped hyena deer antler

Lol these shitjourno's wanted churned out trash and remasters, they probably wanted grindy 120 hour JRPGs too. well they've had their way now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331956)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 1:48 PM
Author: mustard cracking gunner abode

They just wanted CDs. It was the 90s and CDs were seen as cool af.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331981)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Federal Onyx Locale

They wanted Sports Games and Fighting Games and "Mature" Games

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336091)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 9:31 AM
Author: mustard cracking gunner abode

N64 had sports games…. Westerners didn’t really play fighting games after street fighter II/Mortal Kombat imo. They wanted games with Commercials. They also wanted a Volume of games. Binders filled with CDs in every trailer park, the jewel cases long discarded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336413)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: stimulating boistinker

the more things change...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49332161)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: flesh trip lodge skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49334064)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 12:22 AM
Author: mustard cracking gunner abode

https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784539&mc=2&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49335942)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: flesh trip lodge skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336752)



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Date: October 7th, 2025 1:19 PM
Author: mustard cracking gunner abode

Btw n64 won retroactively if anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49331893)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: flesh trip lodge skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336754)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: flesh trip lodge skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336755)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 1:00 AM
Author: deranged ape

Bananza and Hades 2 are probably the two best games of the year, and both of them are only available on Switch. (To be fair, Hades 2 is available on PC, but not PS or XBox.) Aside from Mario Kart World and the Galaxy rerelease, you have Kirby Air Raiders and Prime 4 coming out in the next two months. That's actually pretty solid for a console that was only released a few months ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49335969)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 3:09 AM
Author: Umber curious striped hyena deer antler

LOL tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336053)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Federal Onyx Locale

JFC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336092)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 4:47 AM
Author: Federal Onyx Locale

I wanted to waste money on something but I am watching a playthrough of this Donkey Kong game and it just looks so shitty. Every 10 seconds a roguelike style menu pops up where you have to pick 1 of 3 passive traits. It's like they just threw in whatever systems are in the "Current Games" without considering whether they belong in a mainline Donkey Kong 3D platformer. And the level design is just so shitty. All of the "worlds" literally look like planets from Solar Eclipse on the Sega Saturn updated to run in high def:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1mRvXYosxY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336093)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 7:35 AM
Author: mustard cracking gunner abode

Why doesn’t anyone talk ever acknowledge that games like this are for kids? They’re just like “here’s my Take on bananza in its current State as a middle aged man.” It’s extremely easy and you pound the ground in a way a 6 year old would enjoy.

People knew 25 years ago that Nintendo was kiddie and lame by default but they somehow forgot imo.

Journalists are cowards who are scared of Nintendo fanboys, plus all the momentum from Winning the Gen, so they can do nothing but give it 9-10/10s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336182)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 7:48 AM
Author: seedy property

not cr. the graphics style is cartoony and kid-like, but nintendo games tend to be super fun. i played the demo version of the DK game and it was just running around hitting rocks. maybe there's more to it, but i'm not buying it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336190)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 9:24 AM
Author: mustard cracking gunner abode

That’s what you think bc Switch won the gen. You weren’t saying this in 2002 when Shitcube was a laughingstock.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336390)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: pea-brained place of business

it was never a laughingstock IME

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49337305)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 7:51 PM
Author: seedy property

ncr. from N64 on, i was a nintendo fanboy. loved the GC and its stupid little discs.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49338062)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 10:00 AM
Author: misanthropic circlehead

God forbid anyone makes games for kids rather than perpetually online middle aged autists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336472)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 11:08 AM
Author: mustard cracking gunner abode

Then the autists shouldn’t be like “the State of Donkey Kong 🙄” imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336600)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Umber curious striped hyena deer antler

I have never liked any donkey's kong. I thought the SNES ones were lame and western and DK64 was a disaster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336608)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 10:56 AM
Author: Umber curious striped hyena deer antler

Nintendo was making fine games that appealed to kids and adults just a few years ago. Mario odyssey was a masterpiece. Why didn't they make Odyssey 2? People like to play the same game. Or any game at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336566)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 11:09 AM
Author: mustard cracking gunner abode

Making a different game is a risky gambit for sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336602)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: misanthropic circlehead

New Donkey Kong is basically Mario Odessey 2.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49337003)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: pea-brained place of business

the biggest Mario fan on xo here - Mario odyssey was boring and mid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49337308)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Umber curious striped hyena deer antler

You don't beat games. I doubt you even unlocked Darker Side of the Moon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49337668)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: deranged ape

So let me get this straight? A bunch of middle aged lawyers who have never even played Bananza are having a discussion about how it is shit? To be fair, I haven't played it, either. But so far this year, excluding rereleases, there are six games with a Metacritic score of 90+: Hades 2, Silksong, Clair Obscur, Blue Prince, Split Fiction, and Bananza. Most critics expect either Clair Obscur or Bananza to win GOTY. Maybe every single one of the 141 critical reviews of Bananza were paid off by Nintendo (or whatever conspiracy you are pushing here). But maybe we should try playing the game before declaring it is shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336875)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 12:49 PM
Author: Umber curious striped hyena deer antler

Iirc none of us have played games in decades we just like to post about them. It's a fun thing to do. You can tell a game by the vibes. By the phenotype of who is praising it, and by the gameplay videos. Xo is right on the state of gaming.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49336953)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: mustard cracking gunner abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49337078)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 1:46 PM
Author: Federal Onyx Locale

Do u realize just how insanely shitty the ABSOLUTE STATE OF GAMING is when those are the games with the highest scores? That is a complete Joke of a lineup. The only reason any of those games would be at 90%+ is that they're being graded on a law school style curve that Must hand out a certain number of A's regardless of the raw quality of the games. This is the weakest "GOTY" field of all time.

Oh yeah, and it's a "conspiracy" that gaming journalists overrate the games that fund their publications with heavy advertising dollars. Trust Me, I Know These Things LMAO

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/03/21/gaming-the-system-how-a-gaming-journalist-lost-his-job-over-a-negative-review/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49337127)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 4:12 PM
Author: deranged ape

Yeah, I guess that explains why literally the two highest rated games on Metacritic this year (Hades 2 and Silksong) are created by tiny indie studies with zero advertising budget. If I remember correctly, Silksong was literally created by two dudes working in their respective basements.

Sure, this year is not going to go down in history like 2004, 2007, 2011, or 2023, but it doesn't mean that these games are bad. If you are trying to tell me that Hades 2 is shit, I have to wonder if you even game.

As an aside, when the two highest rated titles on Metacritic are both indie titles, it will be interesting to see if an indie game can finally snag GOTY. If not, I think that is conclusive proof that the Game Awards are in the pocket of the big studios.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49337533)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 2:09 PM
Author: Laughsome Mentally Impaired Set

i played split fiction w my kid, it was neat but that shit was honestly trash and way over simple, essentially hold right/forward simulator

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5784016&forum_id=2в#49337196)



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Date: October 9th, 2025 1:10 PM
Author: Laughsome Mentally Impaired Set

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