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Scorching Fifth Circuit dissent - link

https://x.com/jadler1969/status/1991251392816611498?s=20
ocher kitty
  11/19/25
heres the actual dissent which is a thousand times more 180 ...
greedy dilemma
  11/19/25
cr. very xo 2020's poasting twitter images of parts of decis...
Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water
  11/19/25
Is Jerry a woman? The first 5 pages are just about the write...
Pearl slimy church
  11/19/25
honestly we need to pass legislation to limit judicial opini...
Mischievous Turquoise Resort Background Story
  11/19/25
*your legislation has been struck down as a vialation separa...
heady metal coldplay fan
  11/20/25
i love it when I have an old school contract or real propert...
zoomer sexuality expert
  11/20/25
i got an A in fed courts, but can someone explain to me why ...
Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water
  11/19/25
3 judge panels are required by statute in certain Voting Rig...
ocher kitty
  11/19/25
ty. next q: how does an active non-sr COA judge end up a 3-j...
Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water
  11/19/25
The case goes to the original Dist. J. to whom it was assign...
canary box office philosopher-king
  11/19/25
woah. does any other suit get such procedure?
Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water
  11/19/25
Yes--Mostly but not entirely voting and elections related
canary box office philosopher-king
  11/19/25
This is still law bort
Hyperventilating Glittery Spot Son Of Senegal
  11/20/25
...
Multi-colored autistic senate
  11/19/25
ty
underhanded bateful organic girlfriend
  11/19/25
Comes off ysff, almost as bad as TSINAH
ivory provocative private investor pocket flask
  11/19/25
Blistering!
Scarlet Unhinged Filthpig Preventive Strike
  11/19/25
"How dare they deny me the opportunity to offer my deep...
Slate rebellious ticket booth
  11/19/25
It contains tons of thoughtful legal analysis if you’d...
greedy dilemma
  11/19/25
Wait, it's a Trump judge the dissent reamed? https://afj....
ocher kitty
  11/19/25
holy shit wtf
Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water
  11/19/25
Not only a Trump appointee, but from a highly conservative s...
ocher kitty
  11/19/25
very good point. and it also looks like he hawaii judge'd th...
Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water
  11/19/25
He was on the Texas (Civil) SCOTUS for 6 years, so there wou...
canary box office philosopher-king
  11/19/25
Wow. George Soros.
Pearl slimy church
  11/19/25
To be fair, 1. Extremely Boomerish dissent. There's no re...
cobalt curious space striped hyena
  11/19/25
This is about as shocking a statement as you'll see in a &qu...
canary box office philosopher-king
  11/19/25
yep. he also says 20 times that the majesty of law is fraud ...
Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water
  11/19/25
This is in the same vein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM...
canary box office philosopher-king
  11/19/25
wow, is this real
Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water
  11/19/25
180 autism As he stood in that room describing the handgu...
Snowy Foreskin
  11/19/25
i'm reading the berzon concurrence trashing van dyke: htt...
Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water
  11/19/25
"If, however, there were a Nobel Prize for Fiction, Jud...
Passionate Hominid
  11/19/25
Wow. I'd love to meet Judge Smith's clerks. Or interview one...
Comical Avocado Double Fault Rehab
  11/19/25
as everyone knows, he hires only 1Ls after one semester of g...
CapTTTainFalcon
  11/20/25
I read the first few pages. The complained-of conduct--at le...
canary box office philosopher-king
  11/19/25
I'm sure the opinion is shit but going absolutely BERSERK ov...
Hairless macaca
  11/19/25
lol this guy is 180 as shit fuck libs
irate arrogant pit
  11/19/25
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ruddy liquid oxygen
  11/20/25
page 16: Second, the other factors, discussed below, are ex...
Hairless macaca
  11/19/25
...
underhanded bateful organic girlfriend
  11/19/25
Fifth Circuit guru says majority op is solid: https://x.c...
ocher kitty
  11/19/25
thanks, raffi!
UhOh
  11/20/25
Where are we at on this, reddit tranny?
.,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
  11/22/25
This is THE DEFINITION of "yosemite sam fuming mad"...
vigorous chrome round eye
  11/20/25
the image of this guy driving back from a funeral steaming m...
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  11/20/25
This is the type of rage that had to have come in pulsing wa...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  11/21/25
https://files.catbox.moe/vf4g73.mp4
~~(> ' ' )>
  11/21/25
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/19/jeffrey-brown-texas...
,.,,.,.,,,,,,.....................
  11/20/25
the thing is blacks vote 95% dem, so you can never make a po...
UhOh
  11/20/25
and its also absurd that the court would find an argument th...
coiffed sandwich
  11/20/25
...
.,..,.,,.,..,,,.,.,.,..,..,..,.,..,,.,.,.,.
  11/22/25
or without appearing to specifically favor blacks either.
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  11/22/25
Favoring blacks and jews is fine. Favoring whites is wrong. ...
3I/Atlas
  11/22/25
...
UhOh
  11/22/25
i get your point and agree that that's what some people and ...
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
  11/22/25
Not valid in practice. The only place where adjustments matt...
3I/Atlas
  11/22/25
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  11/22/25


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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: ocher kitty

https://x.com/jadler1969/status/1991251392816611498?s=20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444729)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:28 PM
Author: greedy dilemma

heres the actual dissent which is a thousand times more 180 than that shitty twitter link:

https://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/gov.uscourts.txwd_.1150387.1439.0.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444771)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:48 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water

cr. very xo 2020's poasting twitter images of parts of decisions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444819)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:32 PM
Author: Pearl slimy church

Is Jerry a woman? The first 5 pages are just about the writer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444945)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Mischievous Turquoise Resort Background Story

honestly we need to pass legislation to limit judicial opinions to a few pages at most, letting these faggots go on and on is bad for everyone and produces nothing, absolutely nothing, of value

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444826)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 6:25 AM
Author: heady metal coldplay fan

*your legislation has been struck down as a vialation separation of powers. The SCOTUS opinion is 6-2-1 and 800 cumulative pages.*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49445612)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: zoomer sexuality expert

i love it when I have an old school contract or real property research project and find these 3 or 4-page opinions from 1921.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49446199)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:54 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water

i got an A in fed courts, but can someone explain to me why a USDJ is on a 3-judge district court panel with judge smith of the 5th cir?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444830)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:05 PM
Author: ocher kitty

3 judge panels are required by statute in certain Voting Rights Act cases. Was enacted during the Jim Crow era to reduce the likelihood that some biased southern judge would disregard the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444859)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:11 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water

ty. next q: how does an active non-sr COA judge end up a 3-judge usdc panel?

does this mean he's disqualified from being in the pool to hear the case in the 5th cir? and disqualified from sitting en banc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444882)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:37 PM
Author: canary box office philosopher-king

The case goes to the original Dist. J. to whom it was assigned plus 2 judges designated by POTUS of the relevant COA, at least one of whom must be a COA judge.

I presume the COA judge would not be on the panel for the appeal. Maybe he could be sitting en banc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444962)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:38 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water

woah. does any other suit get such procedure?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444967)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:43 PM
Author: canary box office philosopher-king

Yes--Mostly but not entirely voting and elections related

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444978)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 2:03 AM
Author: Hyperventilating Glittery Spot Son Of Senegal

This is still law bort

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49445485)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Multi-colored autistic senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444987)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:30 PM
Author: underhanded bateful organic girlfriend

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49445071)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:06 PM
Author: ivory provocative private investor pocket flask

Comes off ysff, almost as bad as TSINAH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444870)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:13 PM
Author: Scarlet Unhinged Filthpig Preventive Strike

Blistering!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444885)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: Slate rebellious ticket booth

"How dare they deny me the opportunity to offer my deep and thoughtful legal analysis!"

First sentence of dissent: "The main winners from Judge Brown's opinion are George Soros and Gavin Newsom."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444901)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:15 PM
Author: greedy dilemma

It contains tons of thoughtful legal analysis if you’d bother to read on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49445161)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:21 PM
Author: ocher kitty

Wait, it's a Trump judge the dissent reamed?

https://afj.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Brown-Snapshot-Final.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444919)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water

holy shit wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444920)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:27 PM
Author: ocher kitty

Not only a Trump appointee, but from a highly conservative state with a Senator - Ted Cruz - who's normally very careful about ensuring no libs slip through.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444932)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:31 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water

very good point. and it also looks like he hawaii judge'd the biden fraudvax mandate for fed employees

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444943)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:50 PM
Author: canary box office philosopher-king

He was on the Texas (Civil) SCOTUS for 6 years, so there would have been a strong track record of how he rules.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444992)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:23 PM
Author: Pearl slimy church

Wow. George Soros.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444926)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:29 PM
Author: cobalt curious space striped hyena

To be fair,

1. Extremely Boomerish dissent. There's no reason this couldn't have been trimmed down to 20 pages.

2. Having said that, Jerry Smith has been one of the biggest COA > SCOTUS Feeders for decades. Libs might be laughing now, but this guy unironically has the ear of several SCOTUS Justices and he seems EXTREMELY PISSED about how all of this went down, on every level. When this decision inevitably gets appealed to SCOTUS, I'm not sure things will ultimately turn out the way libs are hoping they will. We'll see what unfolds!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444939)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:39 PM
Author: canary box office philosopher-king

This is about as shocking a statement as you'll see in a "scathing" dissent: "I also need to highlight the pernicious judicial misbehavior of U.S. District Judge Jeffrey Vincent Brown."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444968)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water

yep. he also says 20 times that the majesty of law is fraud and it's all politics. has any judge said such things in an opinion before?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444976)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: canary box office philosopher-king

This is in the same vein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMC7Ntd4d4c

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444986)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water

wow, is this real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49445013)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Snowy Foreskin

180 autism

As he stood in that room describing the handgun, it seemed like any second he was going to casually pan to the side and have a bound and gagged shitlib and clinically explain the handgun's firing mechanism as he blows their brains out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49445189)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:59 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Meetinghouse Boiling Water

i'm reading the berzon concurrence trashing van dyke:

https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2025/03/20/23-55805.pdf

where is she wrong? she kinda seems right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49445234)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Passionate Hominid

"If, however, there were a Nobel Prize for Fiction, Judge Brown's opinion would be a prime candidate."

I'm going to be thinking about this sentence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444984)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Comical Avocado Double Fault Rehab

Wow. I'd love to meet Judge Smith's clerks. Or interview one or two.

I'd also love to know what the horse-trading there is behind the scenes on this one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444985)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:53 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

as everyone knows, he hires only 1Ls after one semester of grades

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49446658)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:53 PM
Author: canary box office philosopher-king

I read the first few pages. The complained-of conduct--at least the conduct Judge Smith is leading with--is that the majority didn't let him see a draft of their opinion until shortly before they issued it (with a note that Judge Smith would be appending a dissent).

That's it? That's his first and best argument? Who cares?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49444998)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:23 PM
Author: Hairless macaca

I'm sure the opinion is shit but going absolutely BERSERK over drafting practices that the general public doesn't give a shit about dramatically undermines his dissent.

He sounds like some lawyer who brought in biglaw as co-counsel because he couldn't handle the case and is MAF that they filed the MSJ without getting all his edits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49445058)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: irate arrogant pit

lol this guy is 180 as shit

fuck libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49445016)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:32 AM
Author: ruddy liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49445419)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:26 PM
Author: Hairless macaca

page 16: Second, the other factors, discussed below, are extraordinarily week [sic] in this case.

Also page 16: If this were a law school exam, the opinion would deserve an “F.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49445063)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:30 PM
Author: underhanded bateful organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49445072)



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Date: November 19th, 2025 11:07 PM
Author: ocher kitty

Fifth Circuit guru says majority op is solid:

https://x.com/RMFifthCircuit/status/1991174150615081310

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49445339)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: UhOh

thanks, raffi!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49445885)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.


Where are we at on this, reddit tranny?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49451685)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 1:17 AM
Author: vigorous chrome round eye

This is THE DEFINITION of "yosemite sam fuming mad".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49445480)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


the image of this guy driving back from a funeral steaming maf is hilarious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49446187)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

This is the type of rage that had to have come in pulsing waves. He'd start to calm down -- put down his pen, drawl out a "he's just a fucking fag, into that whole 'perry crew' cocaine and arthouses and experimental gay sex 'thing', fuck 'im" -- and then he'd pick up to finish off a footnote and something would set him off and he'd be back up to yelling at the clerks to tie some fishing line around a dildo "so we can lure that little poofter in here and teach him some fucking manners."

I at least credit his clerks for getting him to remove all the anti-trans slurs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49449379)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 7:58 AM
Author: ~~(> ' ' )>

https://files.catbox.moe/vf4g73.mp4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49449172)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: ,.,,.,.,,,,,,.....................


https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/19/jeffrey-brown-texas-redistricting-00660068

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49446088)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:47 AM
Author: UhOh

the thing is blacks vote 95% dem, so you can never make a politically driven redistricting without it appearing to target blacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49446192)



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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:49 AM
Author: coiffed sandwich

and its also absurd that the court would find an argument that GOP is intentionally forgoing seats in favor of being able to racially discriminate persuasive. at absolutely no level of the party that makes choices about redistricting is a single person thinking this, and everyone knows it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49446200)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: .,..,.,,.,..,,,.,.,.,..,..,..,.,..,,.,.,.,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49451675)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


or without appearing to specifically favor blacks either.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49451709)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:35 AM
Author: 3I/Atlas

Favoring blacks and jews is fine. Favoring whites is wrong. Read the constitution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49451723)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: UhOh



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49451791)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 12:04 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


i get your point and agree that that's what some people and judges think.

i just wanted to add that when you adjust a district to make it more likely that a black will be elected, you are simultaneously making it harder for blacks to get elected in adjoining districts and are making black votes less powerful in the adjoining districts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49451824)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: 3I/Atlas

Not valid in practice. The only place where adjustments matter politically is in the 45-55% range. If you take a group's voice from 25 to 20% or 15 to 25%, it doesn't matter for that group's electoral results. Same if you increase their representation from 60 to 65%.

Where you can get in trouble, however, is when you try to over-optimize your safe seats by giving yourself 55% in a bunch of districts, putting the opponent into a single 95% district. That may be optimal some years, but every now and then an electoral shift comes along, and all of your 55% seats turn into 49ers, and the other side shoots the moon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49451900)



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Date: November 22nd, 2025 1:33 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2в#49452019)