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Lmao xoers are idiots the ones who love WFH

Had many arguments about this. “BUT BUT I’m a in...
Chest-beating Violent Garrison
  12/13/25
it's 4:58 AM on a Saturday morning and you're raging about W...
Vivacious goyim
  12/13/25
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Talented Indigo Gas Station Mediation
  12/13/25
(WFHomo tp)
silver cheese-eating stag film pocket flask
  12/13/25
IDGAF if AI fucks my wife, it doesn't produce sperm It's fu...
gay mad-dog skullcap
  12/13/25
^ this guy gets it
black diverse stage
  12/13/25
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irate magenta legend coffee pot
  12/13/25
Well yeah, I am a good person who will raise my wife's child...
gay mad-dog skullcap
  12/13/25
don't think you realize how cucked by modern life you are, a...
Spruce Nubile Trailer Park
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spectacular station pozpig
  12/13/25
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Talented Indigo Gas Station Mediation
  12/13/25
Lmao the people who say this and blank bump this are usually...
Chest-beating Violent Garrison
  12/13/25
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Bright Flirting Corner Potus
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Purple zippy internal respiration native
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Light faggotry degenerate
  12/13/25
WFH still exists?
scarlet parlour
  12/13/25
yes bro. i still havent gone into an office
stubborn business firm
  12/13/25
Bullshit unless you mean you’re unemployed
Plum Senate Background Story
  12/13/25
im employed friend
stubborn business firm
  12/13/25
Industry and total comp?
Plum Senate Background Story
  12/13/25
consulting 200s/300s
stubborn business firm
  12/13/25
...
Orange balding elastic band
  12/13/25
sure does and its 180
Tan corn cake
  12/13/25
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spectacular station pozpig
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Pea-brained titillating rehab immigrant
  12/14/25
any male that still commutes to an office should be killed. ...
Beady-eyed Wagecucks
  12/13/25
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Vivacious goyim
  12/13/25
I switched from overnight wfh to daytime, I will now work 9a...
bearded theater
  12/13/25
Good but you don’t have a wife and kids correct? Yes n...
Chest-beating Violent Garrison
  12/13/25
Describe how my wfh would be inferior to driving in traffic ...
bearded theater
  12/13/25
Shitting in my own toilet and proudly using my own bidet ins...
Bonkers yellow space rigpig
  12/13/25
Plus I get to use charmin ultra at home instead of tissue pa...
spectacular station pozpig
  12/13/25
real men dont use toliet paper
stubborn business firm
  12/13/25
real men squat in the ganges
spectacular station pozpig
  12/13/25
spend a few hundred and get a bidet
stubborn business firm
  12/13/25
Hose bidet is $35 on amazon. All you need. Once you bidet, t...
Bonkers yellow space rigpig
  12/13/25
try japanese seats bro
stubborn business firm
  12/13/25
cr, get a toto or dont get it at all
Tan corn cake
  12/13/25
Screwing a garden hose onto your bathroom faucet is free!
Brindle lascivious school pisswyrm
  12/14/25
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cobalt brethren pit
  12/13/25
my current commute sucks ass which is why i like it. if i w...
Smoky Excitant Kitty Rigor
  12/13/25
WFH ended like 2 years ago, come on man
Plum Senate Background Story
  12/13/25
for fags, yes. this is true for non-fags, not true.
stubborn business firm
  12/13/25
I for one have been healthcare, car insurance, and food pric...
stubborn business firm
  12/13/25
You can never convince a WFH cuck that his worldview is wron...
Amethyst Resort
  12/13/25
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Chest-beating Violent Garrison
  12/13/25
My vanishingly small chances at finding a wife are only kept...
irate magenta legend coffee pot
  12/13/25
I like going to the office every now and then to mix things ...
Thirsty Erotic Blood Rage
  12/13/25
you could... just join a coworking space when you want that....
stubborn business firm
  12/13/25
We are all adult men here. You shouldn't have a boss.
Amethyst Resort
  12/13/25
You're a lawyer, not a subsistence farmer. Nobody cares
irradiated step-uncle's house mad cow disease
  12/13/25
I am a boss lawyer. I go to the office and boss around peopl...
Amethyst Resort
  12/13/25
This. I run a $300 million company.
Chest-beating Violent Garrison
  12/13/25
180
Amethyst Resort
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Chest-beating Violent Garrison
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spectacular station pozpig
  12/13/25
I'm never going back.
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Orange balding elastic band
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hairraiser kitchen juggernaut
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Pea-brained titillating rehab immigrant
  12/14/25
What if they make you
fragrant aggressive stage
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I will literally retire to the third world before I go back ...
rough-skinned submissive parlor
  12/14/25
the middle manager smiles as you receive an inane Microsoft ...
Vivacious goyim
  12/14/25
me: chillin at home u: covered in parvo
irradiated step-uncle's house mad cow disease
  12/13/25
Listen up niggers I am 100% wfh and switched from nights to ...
bearded theater
  12/13/25
Why don't you just claim to be on US soil while youre in Med...
180 Hall
  12/13/25
Same reason why you don't just claim all your 1099 income as...
bearded theater
  12/13/25
? You can legally claim to your employer you are in US and ...
stubborn business firm
  12/13/25
I mean it's very easy to check your ip. In my line of work n...
bearded theater
  12/13/25
get a dedicated IP in US. hth
stubborn business firm
  12/14/25
How do you do that safely? I think the safest way is install...
bearded theater
  12/14/25
op posted this on his lunch break
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  12/13/25


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Date: December 13th, 2025 4:58 AM
Author: Chest-beating Violent Garrison

Had many arguments about this. “BUT BUT I’m a incel! I love being home in my apartment I don’t need to shower!”

Or

“Omg it gives me so much more time home with my kids!” (Idiot who doesn’t see work as an escape from home for 75%+ of the day.

Or “omg I can do my hobbies!”

Well guess what? Ai is now going to do your “hobbies” your job and fuck your wife and “Age of consent+” daughters.

You needed to be “there” but you weren’t.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506351)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 5:06 AM
Author: Vivacious goyim

it's 4:58 AM on a Saturday morning and you're raging about WFHomos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506353)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:09 AM
Author: Talented Indigo Gas Station Mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506449)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: silver cheese-eating stag film pocket flask

(WFHomo tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507384)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 5:45 AM
Author: gay mad-dog skullcap

IDGAF if AI fucks my wife, it doesn't produce sperm

It's functionally a vibrator

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506356)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: black diverse stage

^ this guy gets it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507120)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 5:50 AM
Author: irate magenta legend coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506358)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:26 AM
Author: gay mad-dog skullcap

Well yeah, I am a good person who will raise my wife's child between zoom calls, it's called human decency and morality :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506369)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:55 AM
Author: Spruce Nubile Trailer Park

don't think you realize how cucked by modern life you are, and how loudly you advertise it, when you praise petty office wagecuckery as a cherished escape from the oppressive household and family, whose endless needs are the reason you toil so exhaustively in the first place

normalfag life as a distraction from the realization that death is preferable. sustainable only as such.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506383)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 8:20 AM
Author: spectacular station pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506412)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:10 AM
Author: Talented Indigo Gas Station Mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506450)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 11:39 AM
Author: Chest-beating Violent Garrison

Lmao the people who say this and blank bump this are usually people who are “married” with zero kids and have no idea what the fuck they’re talking about. And why are you in a position that you can even WFH?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506649)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: Bright Flirting Corner Potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506651)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: Purple zippy internal respiration native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506919)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 7:52 PM
Author: Light faggotry degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507538)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: scarlet parlour

WFH still exists?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506405)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:10 AM
Author: stubborn business firm

yes bro. i still havent gone into an office

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506452)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: Plum Senate Background Story

Bullshit unless you mean you’re unemployed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506823)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:35 PM
Author: stubborn business firm

im employed friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506898)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:49 PM
Author: Plum Senate Background Story

Industry and total comp?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506938)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:53 PM
Author: stubborn business firm

consulting 200s/300s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506955)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:10 PM
Author: Orange balding elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507363)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Tan corn cake

sure does and its 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507001)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: spectacular station pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507685)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 1:34 AM
Author: Pea-brained titillating rehab immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49508024)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:15 AM
Author: Beady-eyed Wagecucks

any male that still commutes to an office should be killed. if you do real work and need to be on site its different.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506454)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 12:40 PM
Author: Vivacious goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506762)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 12:07 PM
Author: bearded theater

I switched from overnight wfh to daytime, I will now work 9am-6pm. Will have time to go for a swim before work and go to the gym and drink some booze in afternoon. And I can occasionally do a 2nd job 5-9pm, thereby enhancing my pay. Try fitting all that when you instead sit in traffic at 8am and at 5pm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506696)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 12:08 PM
Author: Chest-beating Violent Garrison

Good but you don’t have a wife and kids correct? Yes no one is disputing if you’re an incel it’s probably better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506698)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 12:14 PM
Author: bearded theater

Describe how my wfh would be inferior to driving in traffic if I had wife and kids? Oh wow you get to eat your burritos at a cafeteria with your wetback colleagues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506714)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 12:40 PM
Author: Bonkers yellow space rigpig

Shitting in my own toilet and proudly using my own bidet instead of having to hear and smell some other guy’s shit inches away is the #1 reason to WFH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506761)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 12:44 PM
Author: spectacular station pozpig

Plus I get to use charmin ultra at home instead of tissue paper in an office

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506773)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: stubborn business firm

real men dont use toliet paper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506783)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: spectacular station pozpig

real men squat in the ganges

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506814)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: stubborn business firm

spend a few hundred and get a bidet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506817)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 3:30 PM
Author: Bonkers yellow space rigpig

Hose bidet is $35 on amazon. All you need. Once you bidet, there’s no other way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507081)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:06 PM
Author: stubborn business firm

try japanese seats bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507355)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Tan corn cake

cr, get a toto or dont get it at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507359)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: Brindle lascivious school pisswyrm

Screwing a garden hose onto your bathroom faucet is free!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49508787)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: cobalt brethren pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506993)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: Smoky Excitant Kitty Rigor

my current commute sucks ass which is why i like it. if i was walking distance or a short drive/1 subway i would rather go in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506821)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: Plum Senate Background Story

WFH ended like 2 years ago, come on man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506822)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:36 PM
Author: stubborn business firm

for fags, yes. this is true

for non-fags, not true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506900)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: stubborn business firm

I for one have been healthcare, car insurance, and food prices NOT INCREASE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506904)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: Amethyst Resort

You can never convince a WFH cuck that his worldview is wrong. Everything would crumble around him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506992)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: Chest-beating Violent Garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506996)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: irate magenta legend coffee pot

My vanishingly small chances at finding a wife are only kept alive by my employer forcing 600 of us to meet in an office

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506995)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: Thirsty Erotic Blood Rage

I like going to the office every now and then to mix things up, but if you’re being forced by a boss to commute to an office every day then you’re not actually making (or going to make) any money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49506997)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: stubborn business firm

you could... just join a coworking space when you want that. i do that as i have multiple kids and sometimes want a work environment for the day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507005)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 4:41 PM
Author: Amethyst Resort

We are all adult men here. You shouldn't have a boss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507208)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: irradiated step-uncle's house mad cow disease

You're a lawyer, not a subsistence farmer. Nobody cares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507377)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 8:51 PM
Author: Amethyst Resort

I am a boss lawyer. I go to the office and boss around people with BAs and JDs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507661)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 8:56 PM
Author: Chest-beating Violent Garrison

This. I run a $300 million company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507673)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: Amethyst Resort

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507683)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 7:13 PM
Author: Chest-beating Violent Garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507461)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:04 PM
Author: spectacular station pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507689)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 3:31 PM
Author: Brindle lascivious school pisswyrm

I'm never going back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507084)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:11 PM
Author: Orange balding elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507367)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 1:46 AM
Author: hairraiser kitchen juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49508028)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 2:26 AM
Author: Pea-brained titillating rehab immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49508037)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 2:29 AM
Author: fragrant aggressive stage

What if they make you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49508038)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 2:54 AM
Author: rough-skinned submissive parlor

I will literally retire to the third world before I go back to an office job. It’s a completely absurd waste of time. GC laughing, howling in your face as you put on your costume and sit in traffic just to sit in an office all day doing the exact same shit you could be doing from anywhere else. It’s inhumane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49508050)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 3:09 AM
Author: Vivacious goyim

the middle manager smiles as you receive an inane Microsoft Teams notification

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49508051)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:13 PM
Author: irradiated step-uncle's house mad cow disease

me: chillin at home

u: covered in parvo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507374)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 7:59 PM
Author: bearded theater

Listen up niggers I am 100% wfh and switched from nights to days. Now will work 9-6 and do additional work 5-9pm whenever I feel like making some 1099. My only limitation is I must work from my home office. True work from anywhere means I could work from Thailand or Belarus. I can go in that direction in a few years bit I'd have to take a 50% pay cut because basically I'd be giving a full consult but some turdskin on u.s. soil would have to put his signature on my consult.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507547)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:22 PM
Author: 180 Hall

Why don't you just claim to be on US soil while youre in Medellin fucking ladyboys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507740)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:36 PM
Author: bearded theater

Same reason why you don't just claim all your 1099 income as expenses and pay 0 tax. Felony. Could do it out of belarus if never plan to return to usa..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507774)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: stubborn business firm

?

You can legally claim to your employer you are in US and then file your taxes as US and no issue. You are actually overpaying your taxes and not using the foreign abroad credit of up to $126k. They will not come after you for overpaying. hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507835)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 10:22 PM
Author: bearded theater

I mean it's very easy to check your ip. In my line of work nigbtjobs pay 50% more per hour and I could work days out of Belarus when it's night here. But it would require a home vpn at my parents house to conceal true ip. That's very high risk and basically assumes if you get caught, you're done working and never coming back to usa. I.e. if you get a dui and escape to Belarus you're not coming back to usa because it's a serious offence.

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Date: December 14th, 2025 9:19 AM
Author: stubborn business firm

get a dedicated IP in US. hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49508337)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 10:26 AM
Author: bearded theater

How do you do that safely? I think the safest way is install such home vpn machine at my parents house. But to even test that I'd have to go back to nightjob, get a place somewhere linke Minsk and log in. Btw my new job pays almost as much during the day as my old night job, but they don't even allow to work from jewyork. They literally said they don't want to get sued because I stepped foot there.

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Date: December 13th, 2025 8:29 PM
Author: Dull affirmative action keepsake machete

op posted this on his lunch break

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2в#49507618)