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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
Frum principal's office reading party
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180
180 confused lodge clown
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
Frum principal's office reading party
  11/09/25
much more than that
Abusive antidepressant drug
  11/09/25
anal rape?
Mint depressive mother
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
floppy meetinghouse idea he suggested
  11/09/25
...
Insane pea-brained internal respiration
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
180 confused lodge clown
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
Ruby potus heaven
  11/09/25
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dashing flesh brethren
  11/09/25
why who is he?
Frum principal's office reading party
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
Trip trust fund
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180 confused lodge clown
  11/09/25
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Pearl Shaky Travel Guidebook
  11/09/25
cr he blows
cobalt legend sanctuary
  11/09/25
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odious dark nursing home halford
  11/09/25
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odious dark nursing home halford
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
Boyish Rusted Stain Codepig
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
Cheese-eating gold digit ratio
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
contagious den really tough guy
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
Frum principal's office reading party
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
contagious den really tough guy
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
razzle-dazzle tanning salon
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
canary sandwich legal warrant
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
insecure appetizing gunner
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
milky resort puppy
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
Cheese-eating gold digit ratio
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
razzle-dazzle tanning salon
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
cobalt legend sanctuary
  11/09/25
*destroying
Frum principal's office reading party
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
Abusive antidepressant drug
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
cobalt legend sanctuary
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
Abusive antidepressant drug
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
excitant talking queen of the night knife
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
Frum principal's office reading party
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
pale philosopher-king
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
Frum principal's office reading party
  11/09/25
Jews maf
razzle-dazzle tanning salon
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
contagious den really tough guy
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
Frum principal's office reading party
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
contagious den really tough guy
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
cobalt legend sanctuary
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
insecure appetizing gunner
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
pale philosopher-king
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
grizzly deer antler cruise ship
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
Frum principal's office reading party
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
grizzly deer antler cruise ship
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
insecure appetizing gunner
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
Frum principal's office reading party
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
Frum principal's office reading party
  11/09/25
lol
grizzly deer antler cruise ship
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
Vibrant rose pit selfie
  11/09/25
...
razzle-dazzle tanning salon
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
pungent tantric locale
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
Cheese-eating gold digit ratio
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
cobalt legend sanctuary
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
milky resort puppy
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
pale philosopher-king
  11/09/25
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Insane pea-brained internal respiration
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
Frum principal's office reading party
  11/10/25
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razzle-dazzle tanning salon
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
Seedy university marketing idea
  11/10/25
lol
light point
  11/10/25
Lmao
excitant talking queen of the night knife
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Frum principal's office reading party

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: 180 confused lodge clown

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414449)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Frum principal's office reading party

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Abusive antidepressant drug

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Mint depressive mother

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: floppy meetinghouse idea he suggested

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Insane pea-brained internal respiration



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: 180 confused lodge clown

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Ruby potus heaven

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: dashing flesh brethren



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Frum principal's office reading party

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Trip trust fund

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: 180 confused lodge clown



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Pearl Shaky Travel Guidebook



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: cobalt legend sanctuary

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: odious dark nursing home halford



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: odious dark nursing home halford



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Boyish Rusted Stain Codepig

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Cheese-eating gold digit ratio

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: contagious den really tough guy

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Frum principal's office reading party

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: contagious den really tough guy

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle tanning salon

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: canary sandwich legal warrant

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: insecure appetizing gunner

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: milky resort puppy

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Cheese-eating gold digit ratio

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle tanning salon

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: cobalt legend sanctuary

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Frum principal's office reading party

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Abusive antidepressant drug

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: cobalt legend sanctuary

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Abusive antidepressant drug

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: excitant talking queen of the night knife

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Frum principal's office reading party

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: pale philosopher-king

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Frum principal's office reading party

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle tanning salon

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: contagious den really tough guy

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Frum principal's office reading party

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: contagious den really tough guy

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: cobalt legend sanctuary

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: insecure appetizing gunner

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: pale philosopher-king

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: grizzly deer antler cruise ship

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: Frum principal's office reading party

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: grizzly deer antler cruise ship

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: insecure appetizing gunner

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Frum principal's office reading party

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Frum principal's office reading party

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: grizzly deer antler cruise ship

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Vibrant rose pit selfie

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: pungent tantric locale

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Cheese-eating gold digit ratio

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: cobalt legend sanctuary

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: milky resort puppy

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: pale philosopher-king

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Insane pea-brained internal respiration



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Frum principal's office reading party

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Seedy university marketing idea

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: light point

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: excitant talking queen of the night knife

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2в#49416774)